KICKING, HANDBALLING AND CATCHING

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Pulling the trigger early on this one, but it has been something we have been awful at for years.
Looking for any Demonlanders who actually know the answer, whether it's a sport science thing, a coaching thing or something that is just innate:

HOW DO WE GET THE SKILLS OF HAND-BALLING, KICKING AND CATCHING TO IMPROVE?

Is it even something we can improve? Or are good skills something you have to be born with? Do we have them do lane work till the cows come home? What do we do? Because now we are actually getting into positions where we can win games, this side to our game is killing us.

Edited June 22, 2014 by The Song Formerly Known As

[Matt Demon 1,418]

Practice...

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Practice...

you, in your wisdom, think they don't practise their kicking and hand balling? And this week they will, and it will suddenly be better?

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

Ugly

Once we clean it up we'll be ok

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

It's the constant handpassing to a player in a worse position that kills me.

Often too they do it after a mark or when they have a free kick meaning they go from being under no pressure with the ball to enormous pressure.

[demon4eva 110]

I don't know why the coaches pick this. Our two captains made the same mistake time and time again today. Hope they watch this game and learn from the opposition how to lead and how to kick.

[rjay 24,887]

A few more class players into the team will help, bad skills can be contagious. Some catch it when it's going around and improve with a good injection of class. For others unfortunately it's terminal.

[Deecisive 1,709]

seen too many players in the trying to handpass to players 2 meters away surrounded by the oppositiion. doh.

players marking 60 out and sending the ball all over the ground to the other side of the ground to a player 60 out who kicks it in. why bother taking these chances across ground then if that is all they are going to do.

I dont know how many tackles just did not stick, or our players fell over when chasing... absolute shocker for most of the team.... really is a miracle (called vince) that we did not loose by a far greater margin.

[hardtack 10,514]

"Catching"?

[JackVineyForPresident 310]

It was a bad week.

It is rarely ever this bad.

Give it a rest and close this thread.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

"Catching"?

well you don't mark a handball do you?

And when you take a mark, and it's paid a mark, you actually have to "catch the ball".

Not really rocket science there cobber.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

It was a bad week.

It is rarely ever this bad.

Give it a rest and close this thread.

mate, you watched our skills the past 7 years?!

Or did you just jump on the bandwagon when we got Roosy?

Skills have been atrocious for a long time.

Most will agree, particularly the older ones who have seen a lot more of the team play than me.

[praha 11,236]

Game was lost tonight at the 12 minute mark of the third: Tyson handballed to an open Jones, who fumbled a clean pass, gave the ball up and ultimately led to a North goal. They kicked four more after that but it was a landslide from there.

So long as our best are producing the worst, we will lose games. We need to rely on Jones, not deplore him. That was a turning point IMO.

edit: n jones, not Matt.

Edited June 22, 2014 by Cudi_420

[Yossarian 1,820]

Dicks.

[JackVineyForPresident 310]

mate, you watched our skills the past 7 years?!

Or did you just jump on the bandwagon when we got Roosy?

Skills have been atrocious for a long time.

Most will agree, particularly the older ones who have seen a lot more of the team play than me.

No. I dont not jump on the bandwagon when we got Roosy. I have sat through losses and incredibly satisfying wins.

But we have not been like this since the West Coast game. It was a bad week.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

No. I dont not jump on the bandwagon when we got Roosy. I have sat through losses and incredibly satisfying wins.

But we have not been like this since the West Coast game. It was a bad week.

dude, really? If you have been satisfied with our disposal in the other games this year then you have low expectations.

Compare the disposal you are happy with (the disposal you want to close the thread because of as you think it isn't a worry) and compare that to what good disposal is, and what good disposal looks like in premiership pushing teams. It is a problem, and has been for years.

[JackVineyForPresident 310]

dude, really? If you have been satisfied with our disposal in the other games this year then you have low expectations.

Compare the disposal you are happy with (the disposal you want to close the thread because of as you think it isn't a worry) and compare that to what good disposal is, and what good disposal looks like in premiership pushing teams. It is a problem, and has been for years.

No, i am realistic.

It is impossible to go from total rubbish to pinpoint. Richmond have tried and it lost it.

We are improving and well get more polished and better drilled. Just settle down.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

No, i am realistic.

It is impossible to go from total rubbish to pinpoint. Richmond have tried and it lost it.

We are improving and well get more polished and better drilled. Just settle down.

mate, re-read the original post. You are saying we are improving, which we are. You are saying our disposal etc. will improve, but what i am asking, and what you aren't answering is how?

Been 7 years of poor disposal, how do you improve?

[Gipsy Danger 1,067]

Go back to the old school....

100 handpasses each hand at 5m

100 kicks each foot at 20m

Another 50 at 40m

All before they run a lap.

Nothing ingrains in a skill set like repetition. Make the technique and skill so instinctive that they never have to think about it, it's just what they do. The sports science guys will hate it but it's been a tried at true method for decades

[Tony Tea 2,806]

Effective kicking is all about having someone to kick it to. Yes, there are superb kicks out there who can hit the most minuscule of targets, but most players can only hit targets when there are targets to hit. Yesterday North had us sussed, blocking off any space forward of centre for our players to provide those targets. Also, Roos (Paul, not Norf) has stated his first goal is to get us playing competitive AFL footy and when that is sorted will work on tactics for moving the ball forward (which I assume will be based around "two way running").

WIP.

[jazza 1,323]

Pulling the trigger early on this one, but it has been something we have been awful at for years.

Looking for any Demonlanders who actually know the answer, whether it's a sport science thing, a coaching thing or something that is just innate:

HOW DO WE GET THE SKILLS OF HAND-BALLING, KICKING AND CATCHING TO IMPROVE?

Is it even something we can improve? Or are good skills something you have to be born with? Do we have them do lane work till the cows come home? What do we do? Because now we are actually getting into positions where we can win games, this side to our game is killing us.

Pace of the game disallows effective disposal.

Interchange has made that and it wont alter.

As for us,PR will keep drafting players who can dispose of it under pressure.

This wasnt our recruitment motto for awhile.

Edited June 23, 2014 by jazza