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2015 foward line

HF - Jack Watts - Chris Dawes - Liam Jurrah

F - Mitch Clark - Jesse Hogan - JKH

Look out!!!

Almost as good as Sydney's, and with none of the salary cap rorting.

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"I'm better away from the grog" has to be the understatement of the century.

Also Jake Niall

While it’s possible to view Jurrah as a victim of the Melbourne Football Club’s own "civil war" between those close to Bailey and others aligned with then chief executive Cameron Schwab and football chief Chris Connolly, Jurrah fingers the tribal dispute that has since ceased.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/inside-the-world-of-liam-jurrah-20140530-zrtim.html#ixzz33DILMFPC

Get your fat overfed head out of your ass. The club has bigger fish to fry and I doubt they want to stir up old wounds but what a load of trash this is.

I'm really worried about what possesses someone to write such a crappy paragraph as that.

It would be really nice to have a successful team again so when scum like Niall try to blame the tragic downfall of a man from a divided community on our football club we can tell them to go choke on their dim sims.

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Man.... He captured my imagination more than any player we ever had. I would go to games when we were being belted just to see Jurrah.

Sadly, he will be a forgotten player in the long run because of his short career. However, if by some miracle the chance ever came that he could return, I really hope we rookie list him.

I am not sure many would agree with me though, besides the fact it could be great from an on-field perspective, I know people would get bogged down by the criminal factor.

It's about rehabilitation, not career punishment. Footy should be no different to every job out there.

Maybe I am numb because I am so "American sports minded", but to me, if you can play, then you play.

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"I'm better away from the grog" has to be the understatement of the century.

Also Jake Niall

Get your fat overfed head out of your ass. The club has bigger fish to fry and I doubt they want to stir up old wounds but what a load of trash this is.

I'm really worried about what possesses someone to write such a crappy paragraph as that.

It would be really nice to have a successful team again so when scum like Niall try to blame the tragic downfall of a man from a divided community on our football club we can tell them to go choke on their dim sims.

Agreed on all points.

Sadly, as one of his biggest fans I believe there is no chance of him returning to the AFL.


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Its a sad affair for Jurrah. He is light years away from AFL and cannot see him making it all.

But for me I juet want him to get better and have peace in his life.

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Such a brilliant player, very unique, very skilled, classy and talented.

Sadly, that only extended to the football field.

Jurrah obviously has problems - like many of us do - and I hope he concentrates on his problems, and not football.

I don't think Liam can take any short cuts and I hope he realizes the extent of his behavior and how damaging to others it can be.

Jurrah could make it back to AFL, no doubt.. But IMO he'll never have the collective attitude that Roos need - in order to draft him.

Roos operates on collectively and selflessness. If Jurrah had more of those 2 things, he wouldn't be in his current position.

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2015 foward line

HF - Jack Watts - Chris Dawes - Liam Jurrah

F - Mitch Clark - Jesse Hogan - JKH

Look out!!!

So many "what ifs" - and don't forget fitting Wona at his best there too.

Interesting article but the reference to his being a victim of the Dees turmoils was pretty pathetic.

However, only those who believe in tooth fairies, Father Christmas, the Easter Bunny, and the integrity and consistency of the MRP could possibly that this would be possible.

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I couldn't imagine Niall writing anything similar to that nonsense about our 'civil war' about any other club.

What a way to trivialise an awful situation...

'What caused your issues? The politics that I want to talk about or the blood feud that tore your family, your community, and your life apart?'

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If only we (and LJ) could selectively turn back the clock! Sadly the world doesn't work that way. Neither does football.

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For Niall to suggest that MFC was in any way responsible for the downfall of LJ is disgraceful, after all we have done for Liam during and post his time here, nothing could be further from the truth.

The club should ask for a retraction.

Niall has learnt how to besmirch MFC from Smith and Wilson ?

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The MFC civil war took down Dean Bailey. Liam may have been better off with Bails as his coach but it's a fairly long bow to draw to say that he was a victim of it.
I have said my piece on Liam a million times on here. No point in saying it again.

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Such a brilliant player, very unique, very skilled, classy and talented.

Sadly, that only extended to the football field.

Jurrah obviously has problems - like many of us do - and I hope he concentrates on his problems, and not football.

I don't think Liam can take any short cuts and I hope he realizes the extent of his behavior and how damaging to others it can be.

Jurrah could make it back to AFL, no doubt.. But IMO he'll never have the collective attitude that Roos need - in order to draft him.

Roos operates on collectively and selflessness. If Jurrah had more of those 2 things, he wouldn't be in his current position.

Not sure what u mean. I never thought me as a selfish player at all, very team orientated in fact. One of my all time favourites. I liked Sean Charles as well. I'd be rapt if he ever played 4 us again. I'd go just 2 see him play .He'd thrive under Roos.

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Making the association that Liam's downfall may have been the fault of the club is improbable, But the club did make too much publicity about about its connection with Liam and his community. Just about every week we kept hearing glowing feel good stories about Liam and his community, the good things we were doing and then there was the famous pilgrimage by Stynes and his entourage. So it is not surprising our connection with his downfall and his communities troubles is being suggested and exists in the mind of many. IMO, the club then exploited Liam and his community for the publicity value to the extreme.

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Making the association that Liam's downfall may have been the fault of the club is improbable, But the club did make too much publicity about about its connection with Liam and his community. Just about every week we kept hearing glowing feel good stories about Liam and his community, the good things we were doing and then there was the famous pilgrimage by Stynes and his entourage. So it is not surprising our connection with his downfall and his communities troubles is being suggested and exists in the mind of many. IMO, the club then exploited Liam and his community for the publicity value to the extreme.

I don't see how the club promoting the good things Liam was doing in his community has anything to do with his downfall.

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There are no simplistic explanations or solutions to issues such as this. Let's just acknowledge with sadness the waste of a great talent. Pleased to hear that he still values the connections with his Dee mates. Looks like it is the hope of playing footy again at some level keeps him going.

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I don't see how the club promoting the good things Liam was doing in his community has anything to do with his downfall.

Well that may be the common perception or else it would not be raised by the media. I cannot recall any other indigenous player who has had so much publicity about him and his tribe. Was it all necessary?

If anything he was portrayed by the club as some sort of circus freak that Barnum & Bailey would have presented at their circus.

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Well that may be the common perception or else it would not be raised by the media. I cannot recall any other indigenous player who has had so much publicity about him and his tribe. Was it all necessary?

If anything he was portrayed by the club as some sort of circus freak that Barnum & Bailey would have presented at their circus.

I think the circus freak stuff language is a bit extreme but I hear what you are saying. The club in those days was more image over substance if anything. I think that bloody book was the silliest thing of all.

However, and this may not be your intent ADC, no point in bringing up all that old stuff. :)

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Making the association that Liam's downfall may have been the fault of the club is improbable, But the club did make too much publicity about about its connection with Liam and his community. Just about every week we kept hearing glowing feel good stories about Liam and his community, the good things we were doing and then there was the famous pilgrimage by Stynes and his entourage. So it is not surprising our connection with his downfall and his communities troubles is being suggested and exists in the mind of many. IMO, the club then exploited Liam and his community for the publicity value to the extreme.

I think that is a very sad and inaccurate description of what happened. Yes we got publicity but the effort put in to help less disadvantaged members of the community was fantastic and at great personal and financial cost. Our President was dying for God sake and he left his family and went to the outback to help.Others left their comfort and went to try and help.

This is not your finest post IMO.

Finally, Liam Jurrah is where he is because of Liam Jurrah and no one else. He was begged to come home the weekend all the trouble started. We helped him before that, during that and after that. He continued to look for trouble.

Lets not rewrite history. I find Niall's comments despicable. People wanting to help others may now think twice and to think he publishes it on this weekend of all times.

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I think the circus freak stuff language is a bit extreme but I hear what you are saying. The club in those days was more image over substance if anything. I think that bloody book was the silliest thing of all.

However, and this may not be your intent ADC, no point in bringing up all that old stuff. :)

Can you remember those arty semi naked warrior photos that took up whole pages in newspapers like The Age and The Sun? Exploiting the noble warrior image to the max. Edited by america de cali
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A lot of talk about Jurrah from the indigenous boys at our club was that you really can't understand what he is going through with these family issues.

My gripe is, I don't care how bad things are, you never hit women. There's no excuse, and its wrong to do, not matter what your nationality is.

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