Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted (edited)

Good time to assess our list and direction.

Here is what Paul Roos thinks of the list and season so far:

Part 1:

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2014-05-22/roos-mid-season-review-part-1

Part 2:

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2014-05-22/roos-mid-season-review-2-jetta-and-player-improvement

I for one am very happy with the direction of the club and would never have thought we would have 3 wins at this point in the season (and against Carlton, Adelaide and Richmond).

But this season is not just about wins - it is rebuilding the MFC from the ashes. I think we have already begun to see this through a shift in the culture at the club.

I don't think you can underestimate the psychological effect in football.

We can clearly see the defensive structures building and once we have a good grasp of that we can begin with the offensive side of the game.

As far as the list goes - I think we have a good core group of players (Jones, Viney, Tyson, Vince, Frawley, McDonald, Dunn, Dawes + JKH, Salem, Toumpas etc) but our depth is weak and I expect that will be fixed come draft/trade time.

I am looking forward to the rest of the season!

How do others see:

1. the direction of the club

2. the current list

Edited by Young Dee
  • Like 1

Posted

The thing i am most enjoying about this year is that as Mike Sheehan said he would, Roos has improved every player on the list by 30% imo, and we have Hogan and Trengove to come back and i have a feeling Trenners will be a totally different player when he does.

the most rewarding thing for me about our wins is they have scored a couple of goals at the start of each of those games and got the jump on us and we didn't panic, just stuck to our plans, starting to ingrain a belief that we can win every game, even if we are behind. rays of culture starting to shine through.

  • Like 3

Posted

How do others see:

1. the direction of the club

2. the current list

1. In the best hands its ever been in

2. its more solid and packed with potential than any other 2--3 win team but still has a bunch of deadwood which will be cleared at seasons end, and replaced with handpicked talent by Roosy, Taylor and Todd. We will then have a very good list with proper player development in place. its gonna be exciting.

Posted

The thing i am most enjoying about this year is that as Mike Sheehan said he would, Roos has improved every player on the list by 30% imo, and we have Hogan and Trengove to come back and i have a feeling Trenners will be a totally different player when he does.

the most rewarding thing for me about our wins is they have scored a couple of goals at the start of each of those games and got the jump on us and we didn't panic, just stuck to our plans, starting to ingrain a belief that we can win every game, even if we are behind. rays of culture starting to shine through.

Yes Trengove seems like a forgotten player to me - I had almost given up on him till he announced that he had been struggling with injury. I hope he can come back fitter, faster and stronger.

The great thing about Roos is how he has shifted the pressure of certain individuals (draftees, Toump, Trenners) - Under Neeld these players would be straight in the side and under the microscope but as a supporter you almost forget about these players.

We already have a good core midfield in Jones, Viney, Tyson, Vince - when you add on Tomp, Salem you have a decent midfield not to mention we might find some dimonds in the rough (Michie, Harmes, Hunt etc).

Now we need to target a key backman (preferably a good kick) and possibly another good ruck prospect)

Posted

Yes Trengove seems like a forgotten player to me - I had almost given up on him till he announced that he had been struggling with injury. I hope he can come back fitter, faster and stronger.

The great thing about Roos is how he has shifted the pressure of certain individuals (draftees, Toump, Trenners) - Under Neeld these players would be straight in the side and under the microscope but as a supporter you almost forget about these players.

We already have a good core midfield in Jones, Viney, Tyson, Vince - when you add on Tomp, Salem you have a decent midfield not to mention we might find some dimonds in the rough (Michie, Harmes, Hunt etc).

Now we need to target a key backman (preferably a good kick) and possibly another good ruck prospect)

Trenners will only add to the midfield depth that we are starting to build and basically comes back as a first year player, i reckon he is going to add alot.

i am fairly comfortable with Gawn, Jamar and Pedo doing bits of the ruckwork, but i'd like one more young ruckman also as depth

I really hope Chip stays and Roos settles him in at CHB, i reckon he is at his best when he runs and creates.

Posted

1. Roos is amazing and deserves all-australian coach

2. Our best 22 is pretty good, but players like Nicholson and Strauss make my head hurt

  • Like 2
Posted

1. Roos is amazing and deserves all-australian coach

2. Our best 22 is pretty good, but players like Nicholson and Strauss make my head hurt

I'm not even sure what our best 22 would be at the moment without injuries, maybe

Dunn Mcdonald Jetta

Grimes Garland Terlich

Vince Tyson M.jones

Bail Hogan Watts

Gawn Dawes JKH

Jamar Viney N.jones

Cross Pederson Howe

Trengove

Posted

I'm not even sure what our best 22 would be at the moment without injuries, maybe

Dunn Mcdonald Jetta

Grimes Garland Terlich

Vince Tyson M.jones

Bail Hogan Watts

Gawn Dawes JKH

Jamar Viney N.jones

Cross Pederson Howe

Trengove

No Love for Frawley, Sassy?

Back: Jetta, Dunn, Garland

Half-back: Grimes, McDonald, Howe

Mid: Vince, Viney, Cross

Half forward: Watts, Hogan, Pedersen

Forward: Gawn, Dawes, JKH

Foll: Jamar, N. Jones, Tyson

I/C: Trengove, Salem, Frawley

Sub: Bail

Emer: M. Jones, D. Terlich, J. Toumpas, Riley, Michie

Seems like a pretty good side.

  • Like 2

Posted

Forgot chip yeah he'd be in there

Imagine if Roos could repeat the additions to our midfield like he did last year. i.e another batch like Tyson, Vince, Cross.

a nice thought.

Posted

Imagine if Roos could repeat the additions to our midfield like he did last year. i.e another batch like Tyson, Vince, Cross.

a nice thought.

Or instead go for one - a superstar (we don't have one...yet)

Posted

Another Tyson and Salem deal would be a ripper

Posted

No Love for Frawley, Sassy?

Back: Jetta, Dunn, Garland

Half-back: Grimes, McDonald, Howe

Mid: Vince, Viney, Cross

Half forward: Watts, Hogan, Pedersen

Forward: Gawn, Dawes, JKH

Foll: Jamar, N. Jones, Tyson

I/C: Trengove, Salem, Frawley

Sub: Bail

I reckon that team has a couple of questions marks over it.

1) Jetta might make it. His Adelaide game was excellent. But he must show some consistency for the remainder of the season.

2) I'm not sold on Grimes at all. If his disposal and decision making doesn't improve, he won't be best 22 for mine.

3) Whilst I hope he'll be a star, Hogan hasn't played a game yet. But obviously, I hope we can answer that question before the end of this season.

4) Trengove will be very fringe unless he can recapture some of the form he showed at the start of his career. I'm hopeful he will be able to do this under Roos, but we'll have to wait and see.

The rest of the team is looking solid. They'll only get stronger, providing they continue to play their roles and therefore play more footy together. For 2014, I'm pretty happy with the strides we've made. Another draft where we target another mid (with two/three years under their belt - think Treloar, Shiel, Prestia etc), pick up a KPF and another experienced B grade mid (ala Vince) and we can start to aim for the fringe of the top 8.

Posted

I reckon that team has a couple of questions marks over it.

1) Jetta might make it. His Adelaide game was excellent. But he must show some consistency for the remainder of the season.

2) I'm not sold on Grimes at all. If his disposal and decision making doesn't improve, he won't be best 22 for mine.

3) Whilst I hope he'll be a star, Hogan hasn't played a game yet. But obviously, I hope we can answer that question before the end of this season.

4) Trengove will be very fringe unless he can recapture some of the form he showed at the start of his career. I'm hopeful he will be able to do this under Roos, but we'll have to wait and see.

The rest of the team is looking solid. They'll only get stronger, providing they continue to play their roles and therefore play more footy together. For 2014, I'm pretty happy with the strides we've made. Another draft where we target another mid (with two/three years under their belt - think Treloar, Shiel, Prestia etc), pick up a KPF and another experienced B grade mid (ala Vince) and we can start to aim for the fringe of the top 8.

1. I'd still have Jetta in for that game alone

2. Grimes is the captain, they don't really get dropped

3. Hogan is in our best 22, no explanation needed, he'll get chucked in when he's fully fit

4. Trengove will capture his 2010-2011 form, remember he was running around with a stuffed foot

With the list we have at the moment this is what i'd say would be the best 22

Posted

What is with the flute in the background of the review?

He is talking about improving a footy team - not defeating Sauron down at Mordor.

Although if we beat Geelong down there he can keep the flute...

  • Like 4

Posted

What is with the flute in the background of the review?

He is talking about improving a footy team - not defeating Sauron down at Mordor.

Although if we beat Geelong down there he can keep the flute...

..ssshh, its our secret, weapon.

Posted

I'm very happy with the direction at the moment. There has been a marked change in the comments coming from players in the last month or two which gives me real hope.

The list still needs work. We are seeing that more and more with the guys at Casey. The brutal honesty of the most recent VFL review was very revealing in that respect and shows that while we have capable players waiting in the wings, they are lacking in the crucial "non-negotiable" areas that are becoming more and more a focus at the club. Beyond that, there is a crucial lack of class in the senior 22 which is hurting us badly and needs to be addressed before we will be contending for finals.

  • Like 1
Posted

1. I'd still have Jetta in for that game alone

2. Grimes is the captain, they don't really get dropped

3. Hogan is in our best 22, no explanation needed, he'll get chucked in when he's fully fit

4. Trengove will capture his 2010-2011 form, remember he was running around with a stuffed foot

With the list we have at the moment this is what i'd say would be the best 22

IMO:

1. He needs to be consistent. One game does not a player make.

2. If they lose the captaincy they do.

3. Naturally, but he hasn't played a game yet, so some of the hope should be tempered.

4. Let's hope so. He doesn't done it yet though.

Fair enough.


Posted

As for the direction of the club, it is building some strong foundations and appears to have enough business acumen to form a strong business model. This is something we haven't had in some time, if ever. PJ and Bartlett need to take a lot of credit for this. This will be tested/measured when AHG come up for the sponsorship renewal. If they re-sign you can bet your bottom dollar the business/personnel side of the club is resonating in the broader business community.

The current list is good without being great. The difference between the top and bottom sides usually has to do with 2 thigs:

1) The bottom players in the entire list - for us Harmes, Hunt, King etc.

2) And secondly by the bottom 4 players in the best 22. Jetta, Salem (only because he is young), Byrnes, Terlich who continue to look shaky at many times during a game.

But our biggest list problem is the lack of development in Strauss, Tappy, Nicho, Blease, Fitzy etc... who have been on our lst a while and keep on coming in and out of the team. I am a huge Blease fan but if this season continues as it is going, I reckon he is gone at season's end. All these players are probably going to be replaced with Michie, Riley, Jordie etc...

The turn around in confidence and positivity at MFC at present is remarkable, but the work is only just beginning. We are a long way from being a strong, leading, successful club. Benchmarks for me:

  • 40,000+ members
  • Defeating teams in the top 8
  • Repeat sponsors
  • Free agents and traded players lining up to come to MFC

October 2014 - February 2015 will be a massive time for MFC. This will show how far we have come and if we are building something special.

  • Like 4
Posted

I think the club and list is pretty much exactly where we should expect it to be. Don't forget, with our run after the bye we'll still be looking at probably 6-7 wins, which to be fair is the minimum we should really have expected this year. Next year is when we really take off, I think.

  • Like 1

Posted

I think the club and list is pretty much exactly where we should expect it to be. Don't forget, with our run after the bye we'll still be looking at probably 6-7 wins, which to be fair is the minimum we should really have expected this year. Next year is when we really take off, I think.

Posted

While Roosy (for obvious reasons) will never mention it on the club website, I have heard less and less about the boys post 6 p.m. antics at Riva and Motel this year. I wonder what the drinking policy is at the club at the minute?
Of course, if there is one, it will be easier to enforce with Col and Beamer elsewhere...

Posted

Jonesy's review is up. The admiration I have for that man knows no bounds.

What's going on with the background music btw? :huh: It sounds like something you'd hear at a massage salon.

  • Like 1
Posted

A mid season review after round 9

Gotta love the MFC website lol

While Roosy (for obvious reasons) will never mention it on the club website, I have heard less and less about the boys post 6 p.m. antics at Riva and Motel this year. I wonder what the drinking policy is at the club at the minute?

Of course, if there is one, it will be easier to enforce with Col and Beamer elsewhere...

Jonesy's review is up. The admiration I have for that man knows no bounds.

What's going on with the background music btw? :huh: It sounds like something you'd hear at a massage salon.

Can't help yourselves really can you, the negativity has to appear doesn't it, can't you just say the reviews were good and it is nice to see the Club letting us know the thoughts of the Senior Coach and the 2 captains, then again!!!

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    TRAINING: Friday 22nd November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force on a scorching morning out at Gosch's Paddock for the final session before the whole squad reunites for the Preseason Training Camp. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS It’s going to be a scorcher today but I’m in the shade at Gosch’s Paddock ready to bring you some observations from the final session before the Preseason Training Camp next week.  Salem, Fritsch & Campbell are already on the track. Still no number on Campbell’s

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 3

    UP IN LIGHTS by Whispering Jack

    Those who watched the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships closely this year would not be particularly surprised that Melbourne selected Victoria Country pair Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay on the first night of the AFL National Draft. The two left-footed midfielders are as different as chalk and cheese but they had similar impacts in their Coates Talent League teams and in the National Championships in 2024. Their interstate side was edged out at the very end of the tournament for tea

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    TRAINING: Wednesday 20th November 2024

    It’s a beautiful cool morning down at Gosch’s Paddock and I’ve arrived early to bring you my observations from today’s session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Reigning Keith Bluey Truscott champion Jack Viney is the first one out on the track.  Jack’s wearing the red version of the new training guernsey which is the only version available for sale at the Demon Shop. TRAINING: Viney, Clarry, Lever, TMac, Rivers, Petty, McVee, Bowey, JVR, Hore, Tom Campbell (in tr

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 18th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock for the final week of training for the 1st to 4th Years until they are joined by the rest of the senior squad for Preseason Training Camp in Mansfield next week. WAYNE RUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS No Ollie, Chin, Riv today, but Rick & Spargs turned up and McDonald was there in casual attire. Seston, and Howes did a lot of boundary running, and Tom Campbell continued his work with individual trainer in non-MFC

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #11 Max Gawn

    Champion ruckman and brilliant leader, Max Gawn earned his seventh All-Australian team blazer and constantly held the team up on his shoulders in what was truly a difficult season for the Demons. Date of Birth: 30 December 1991 Height: 209cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 224 Goals MFC 2024: 11 Career Total: 109 Brownlow Medal Votes: 13 Melbourne Football Club: 2nd Best & Fairest: 405 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 12

    2024 Player Reviews: #36 Kysaiah Pickett

    The Demons’ aggressive small forward who kicks goals and defends the Demons’ ball in the forward arc. When he’s on song, he’s unstoppable but he did blot his copybook with a three week suspension in the final round. Date of Birth: 2 June 2001 Height: 171cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 106 Goals MFC 2024: 36 Career Total: 161 Brownlow Medal Votes: 3 Melbourne Football Club: 4th Best & Fairest: 369 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Friday 15th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers took advantage of the beautiful sunshine to head down to Gosch's Paddock and witness the return of Clayton Oliver to club for his first session in the lead up to the 2025 season. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Clarry in the house!! Training: JVR, McVee, Windsor, Tholstrup, Woey, Brown, Petty, Adams, Chandler, Turner, Bowey, Seston, Kentfield, Laurie, Sparrow, Viney, Rivers, Jefferson, Hore, Howes, Verrall, AMW, Clarry Tom Campbell is here

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #7 Jack Viney

    The tough on baller won his second Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Trophy in a narrow battle with skipper Max Gawn and Alex Neal-Bullen and battled on manfully in the face of a number of injury niggles. Date of Birth: 13 April 1994 Height: 178cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 219 Goals MFC 2024: 10 Career Total: 66 Brownlow Medal Votes: 8

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 3

    TRAINING: Wednesday 13th November 2024

    A couple of Demonland Trackwatchers braved the rain and headed down to Gosch's paddock to bring you their observations from the second day of Preseason training for the 1st to 4th Year players. DITCHA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I attended some of the training today. Richo spoke to me and said not to believe what is in the media, as we will good this year. Jefferson and Kentfield looked big and strong.  Petty was doing all the training. Adams looked like he was in rehab.  KE

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!
×
×
  • Create New...