1900 Grand final jumper

[mauriesy 7,261]

I see a "unique Melbourne Football Club jumper, worn in the 1900 grand final by Austin ''Goosey’' Lewis" (MFC Heritage No. 7), is in today’s auction of sporting memorabilia by Mossgreen Auctions in Armadale, Melbourne.

Mossgreen specialist Max Williamson says he knows of only one Australian football jumper that is older. The jumper is the second item in this afternoon’s session, starting at 2.30pm. Likely price is more than $10,000.

Anyone bidding?

[Satyriconhome 10,731]

Was discussing this last night, surely the number being stitched on should kill some of the value, ie not pristine, it is also in remarkably good nick for something that is 100+ yrs old, there is no provenance to say it was actually worn in the Grand Final by the way

[jazza 1,323]

OLD DEE still has his jumper from the 1906 university game.

wears it in the repat all the time.

[Canberra Demon 159]

Speaking of jumpers, Have you seen the Melbourne design for the Indigenous round?

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,693]

I see a "unique Melbourne Football Club jumper, worn in the 1900 grand final by Austin ''Goosey’' Lewis" (MFC Heritage No. 7), is in today’s auction of sporting memorabilia by Mossgreen Auctions in Armadale, Melbourne.

Mossgreen specialist Max Williamson says he knows of only one Australian football jumper that is older. The jumper is the second item in this afternoon’s session, starting at 2.30pm. Likely price is more than $10,000.

Anyone bidding?

Was discussing this last night, surely the number being stitched on should kill some of the value, ie not pristine, it is also in remarkably good nick for something that is 100+ yrs old, there is no provenance to say it was actually worn in the Grand Final by the way

Are there rules (laws?) about what an auction house can claim about a product being sold?

[Satyriconhome 10,731]

Are there rules (laws?) about what an auction house can claim about a product being sold?

It is a very grey area unfortunately, I think it is a sort of honour system a lot of the time, this is supposedly passed down through the family, I am a bit dubious, why wreck it by putting a number on, numbers weren't introduced into VFL till 1911 so 11 years after the jumper was supposedly, you wouldn't wear it, and footy jumpers progressed quite quickly, if it was so precious to the family and why frame it? I have a few doubts it is the genuine article, will be interested to see whether it goes and for how much

[Red and Bluebeard 2,083]

OLD DEE still has his jumper from the 1906 university game.

wears it in the repat all the time.

No doubt you recognise it jazza, having been his opponent that day and got to know the back of the jumper very well ...

[Red and Bluebeard 2,083]

Speaking of jumpers, Have you seen the Melbourne design for the Indigenous round?

Do you mean this one?

[Maple Demon 449]

Do you mean this one?

I like it. Much better than the clash jumpers. Any way it can be the 2015 clash version?

[Deestroy All 14,262]

I like it. Much better than the clash jumpers. Any way it can be the 2015 clash version?

No. Most home jumpers are dark, so when we wear a clash jumper it has to be lighter.

I love this indigenous one though.

[Chook 15,012]

Do you mean this one?

Sexy.

[Maple Demon 449]

No. Most home jumpers are dark, so when we wear a clash jumper it has to be lighter.

I love this indigenous one though.

Perhaps change the background to white but keep the MFC logo in red and overlay a simplied version of the Indigenous artwork in the navy?

[Gipsy Danger 1,067]

Was just having a look on the Age website and seen that the jumper was pulled from the auction due to disputes about it's worth.

http://www.theage.com.au/money/vintage-demons-jumper-with-10000-hopes-pulled-from-sale-20140514-zrb74.html

The article does have a photo of the jumper and a little bit about its back story too.

[Satyriconhome 10,731]

Was just having a look on the Age website and seen that the jumper was pulled from the auction due to disputes about it's worth.

http://www.theage.com.au/money/vintage-demons-jumper-with-10000-hopes-pulled-from-sale-20140514-zrb74.html

The article does have a photo of the jumper and a little bit about its back story too.

I know there were quite a few Demon "historians" doubting the authenticity, I reckon this would have affected the bids

[John Crow Batty 8,861]

I know there were quite a few Demon "historians" doubting the authenticity, I reckon this would have affected the bids

I think it is a genuine period piece. There is no proof it was worn in the 1900 GF but in those days it was unlikely a player would have owned more than one guernsey and it would have lasted a long time.

I have a framed pub mirror with a photo of the 1900 team and the guernsey looks pretty convincing. I suspect the owners are being greedy or they may have withdrawn because they got a better private offer after all the publicity as sometimes happens. No sellers or buyers commission also.

Edited May 22, 2014 by america de cali

[Satyriconhome 10,731]

I think it is a genuine period piece. There is no proof it was worn in the 1900 GF but in those days it was unlikely a player would have owned more than one guernsey and it would have lasted a long time.

I have a framed pub mirror with a photo of the 1900 team and the guernsey looks pretty convincing. I suspect the owners are being greedy or they may have withdrawn because they got a better private offer after all the publicity as sometimes happens. No sellers or buyers commission also.

Sorry still not convinced, it looks too good for something over 100 years old, and why the number, unless the jumper was handed on, numbers didn't come in till 1911 and Lewis finished at the Demons in 1903, so 8 years as well, something just doesn't sit right, I reckon it is a bloody good replica from a later date