Club has to be careful not to just chase a GWS player because he is a GWS player. .................................................................................

Surely, our current team of recruiters are too smart for that.

Popular? Is that why they hardly ever kick it to him? Popular doesn't add 1 bean to his value at the moment

Do you really think that players decide who they kick to based on how well like that player is?

Roos seems to have answered our queries about how he is playing from his perspective.

That would be valuable, no?

Surely, our current team of recruiters are too smart for that.

Yes you might end up with scully

Just watching the interview with jonothan patton after reports the bulldogs are going to offer him a 5.5 million dollar 5 year deal, he looked as gone as gone can be to me,

hopefully the Giants are worried about hanging onto him and turn their attention away from Cameron just in time for us to swoop in

they have all these players who look like potential superstars and I reckon they know some are going to leave.

No disrespect, but do you really still want Cameron? Getting him will cause more harm then good

Just watching the interview with jonothan patton after reports the bulldogs are going to offer him a 5.5 million dollar 5 year deal, he looked as gone as gone can be to me,

hopefully the Giants are worried about hanging onto him and turn their attention away from Cameron just in time for us to swoop in

they have all these players who look like potential superstars and I reckon they know some are going to leave.

they still need to trade for him

Pick 6 wont get t done, not even close

I reckon we are in the box seat to get Patton if any team is

No disrespect, but do you really still want Cameron? Getting him will cause more harm then good

how?

The last 3 will be true leaders in about 4-5 yrs (though not so sure about Toump and JKH). Cross has probably 1 year left. It would be great to pick up some 24-25 yr old guys with strong current leadership, if that is possible, to fill the gap.

I don't disagree but the comment was we have no leaders. I listed 3 current ones and 3 future ones. Recent trends would suggest that leadership is high on the list of qualities we are looking for in players.

Just watching the interview with jonothan patton after reports the bulldogs are going to offer him a 5.5 million dollar 5 year deal, he looked as gone as gone can be to me,

If the Dogs want to pay him $1.1m a year, then they can have him. He's not worth that much.

He has had leg/knee problems, and the times he's been on the park, he hasn't done anything to command such a pay-packet. I'd give Hogan (0 games) $5.5m for 5 years before Patton.

$500k / year max would be what i'd offer Patton.

If the Dogs want to pay him $1.1m a year, then they can have him. He's not worth that much.

He has had leg/knee problems, and the times he's been on the park, he hasn't done anything to command such a pay-packet. I'd give Hogan (0 games) $5.5m for 5 years before Patton.

$500k / year max would be what i'd offer Patton.

yeah thats very true

if Pattons worth 1 mil then Hogan is worth 3

GWS will have a lot of players being offered Big $$'s by other clus so they are going to be hard pressed to keep them all. They are fortunate that they have a surplus of good quality early draft picks that they have banked and can continue to trade for either tried and trusted players or more high draft picks. This way the keep refreshing the list with younger high potential kids and move on those surplus to needs. The GWS may know who they want to keep, the issue for them is can they afford to keep them and do they need to perhaps trade some of them to get the top draft picks they want more.

For those still interested in O'Keefe he conceded on ABC radio today that he has played his last game in the red and white.... at the SCG. Strongly hinting at the fact that he wants to play on next year, it just won't be for the Swans.

I'm still not sold on the idea of getting him, but if it was for next to nothing then I wouldn't be against it.

Biggs looks pretty good, but then again so would anyone playing for Sydney v Saints...

O'Keefe sounded depressed about not getting a game currently.

Would he be in our best 22? Absolutely, I say.

Delisted free agent, come on down.

No disrespect, but do you really still want Cameron? Getting him will cause more harm then good

would really be interested in hearing why.

would really be interested in hearing why.

To be honest, I wouldn't.

Same as it ever was, it is the midfield, stupid. Back line looks good, forward line looks OK if Hogan can play. But we've only got 4 AFL class mids N.Jones, Vince, Tyson and Viney (apologies to Daniel Cross) when we need at least 10. Some more may come out of Trengove, Toumpas, Salem, Barry and JKH. Last year Tyson, Salem and Vince - about half our midfield - for 2, 20 and Sylvia (23) was an excellent return. This year it would be great to repeat that and if Frawley goes we'll have an even stronger hand - 3, 4 and 23ish. I didn't anticipate last year's deal, I expect we'll be working hard on something similar.

Absolutely agree with that and it's why I like the look of Mitchell. The only player out of the midfield category we need is an additional key position player to replace Mitch Clark but the emphasis will once again be strongly on the midfield.

Guys I said 'getting Cameron' not 'having Cameron.' Was talking about how the sacrifices we have to make will postpone our ability to actually fix our REAL deficiency, our midfield. Dw Machsy, you probably wouldn't understand anyways sorry for causing the confusion guys.

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Guys I said 'getting Cameron' not 'having Cameron.' Was talking about how the sacrifices we have to make will postpone our ability to actually fix our REAL deficiency, our midfield. Dw Machsy, you probably wouldn't understand anyways sorry for causing the confusion guys.

I would say our forward line is right up their as our real deficiency and this will be easier to fix now rather than later. What I mean by this is the picks or trading options for KPF won't be open to us as we start to move up the ladder. We must fix this now, mids are easier to come by and I think we are on target here. We have one quality KPF and he is yet to play a game.

Cameron in a heartbeat. Let's not confuse him with a stay at home forward.

Ye you guys make a good point. Conviced me. Either way though, I'll be happy.

The bloke I think Roos could turn around is Toby Greene. I suspect I have little support there.

Ye I was also thinking Dempsey