Players to target at the end of the year

[Adam The God 30,484]

Very far fetched. I just think they are doing the classic swans development and working on his speed and ball use so he develops right.

If you look at their small forward and midfield mix the reality is right now Mitchell isn't a better player than Kennedy, Jack, McVeigh, Parker, Goodes (presuming he hits form), Hannebery or Lewis Jetta.

The 4 he will push for a game are McGlynn (who's got extra versatility as a tagger, defensive forward or crumbing forward), Bird (who's in good form and has he covered for experience) and then the two young guys in Cunningham and Lloyd. Cunningham provides that extra bit pace as some of their mids are one pace and Lloyd is almost certain to be their sub and has been playing well.

If it gets to the end of the year and he hasn't played he may be angry and willing to listen to an offer. But I'm thinking he'll get in the side soon and then wont have any interest in leaving. It's hard to find a good player who can't get a game due to depth. Sydney did it with Josh Kennedy but it's a tough thing to find.

Yeah, you're probably right.

[Adam The God 30,484]

Also, on Kennedy. At Hawthorn he seemed to be played out of position a bit, mostly for his own development, but this showed up his lack of pace and at the time, decision making. There's no doubt he was a fantastic pick up though and Roos' ability to instil confidence with unchanged teams probably helped JPK's development.

[JackVineyForPresident 310]

Tom Mitchell is Swans through and through, just like Viney is Melbourne through and through.

No player is through and through if they arent getting a game.

If Mitchell isnt getting a game then he'll leave

[Maple Demon 449]

Tom Mictchell is best mates with Dylan Roos.. not that it means anything..

Would be nice if it did.

[Deecisive 1,709]

Mitchell may love the swans but I am sure he is not loving sitting out watching AFL games when he dying to be playing at this level. If he does not play he cannot show how good he is, he cannot justify getting more $$'s. Buddy and Tippet taking large slabs of their salary cap and while it does seem to be working at the moment, players like mitchell and viney need to be at the bottom of the packs. If he does not get too many games then he will seriously be considering his options.

[dazzledavey36 55,390]

Do find it staggering he wasnt rewarded for his game. It may not be VFL standard but anyone who get over 40 possessions let alone 60 plus should be rewarded.

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

Do find it staggering he wasnt rewarded for his game. It may not be VFL standard but anyone who get over 40 possessions let alone 60 plus should be rewarded.

Who would you drop from the side to put him in?

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

Would absolutely love Mitch Duncan from Geelong.

[ignition. 1,477]

I've seen a few posts about him after his 64 disposal game.

No disrespect to the guy, it's an absolutely outstanding effort; but has he done much else to warrant himself for us to want him apart from that game?

I rate Mitchell in the same league as Treloar, Shiel, O'Meara, Prestia, Swallow, Wines, Liberatore, Viney, and Tyson. All are more than likely to become the games future stars when they begin/ reach their primes.

If I had the option for one of the three potentially on the table (as discussed being Mitchell, Treloar, and Shiel), I would take Mitchell first just ahead of Treloar (by a bees d***), although would happily have either of those two and take the best deal possible based on other factors like later pick exchanges.

His hard at it inside game, clean hands and endurance combined with the rare dash are something to marvel.

Edited May 29, 2014 by ignition.

[dazzledavey36 55,390]

Who would you drop from the side to put him in?

Hmm true..

[ignition. 1,477]

On the Mitchell subject I get the feeling he is also out of contract this year.

It's now his third year since drafted and have not been able to find any webpage stating he extended his contract with the Swans.

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

Strange some of the opinions of Mitchell, I rate Mitchell as being as good a prospect as Jack Viney or Dom Tyson, if we could add another player like that to our ranks it would be great for the club.

[rjay 25,161]

Would absolutely love Mitch Duncan from Geelong.

I think Mitch is a good kid, will be a big part of their future plans. Cam Guthrie is another one I really rate, he's come on in leaps and bounds over the last couple of years. I think they will both be welded on to the Cats for a while yet so not realistic targets.

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

I think Mitch is a good kid, will be a big part of their future plans. Cam Guthrie is another one I really rate, he's come on in leaps and bounds over the last couple of years. I think they will both be welded on to the Cats for a while yet so not realistic targets.

for sure, we are very little chance and probably won't even try, but in terms of the type of player I think the team needs blokes like Mitch Duncan, i'd also like to see a really classy half back added to the side, if that be Toumpas or Strauss with a bit of development or someone from outside the club.

[Matt Demon 1,501]

We need some pace so I'd have a look at Gary Rohan, he could be looking for more opportunity and may already have a good relationship with Roos.

[rjay 25,161]

We need some pace so I'd have a look at Gary Rohan, he could be looking for more opportunity and may already have a good relationship with Roos.

Roos and Stone would know a lot about him and whether he is worth a shot but we could do with his pace and size. Could be a really good runner off half back if he's got the tank to go. Funny you mention him, was just thinking about him today.

Edited May 30, 2014 by rjay

[Machsy 2,858]

I think Mitch is a good kid, will be a big part of their future plans. Cam Guthrie is another one I really rate, he's come on in leaps and bounds over the last couple of years. I think they will both be welded on to the Cats for a while yet so not realistic targets.

Both Guthrie and Duncan will champions of the club at Geelong, and will never have any desire to move.

They'd be great gets, but it simply will never happen.

Both of very high character, and the cats know that.

[JackVineyForPresident 310]

Has anyone watched Patton vs the Hawks. His reach is incredible, not to mention how much of a brute he is.

[Return to Glory 8,448]

Both Guthrie and Duncan will champions of the club at Geelong, and will never have any desire to move.

They'd be great gets, but it simply will never happen.

Both of very high character, and the cats know that.

Huge call to say both will be champions Machsy. Good players but it will be interesting to gauge their worth when several of the Cats champs have finished up.

[Return to Glory 8,448]

Roos and Stone would know a lot about him and whether he is worth a shot but we could do with his pace and size. Could be a really good runner off half back if he's got the tank to go. Funny you mention him, was just thinking about him today.

Would love to have Gary Rohan at the club. Cruelled by injury but was looking like a huge talent before that. Has that outside speed that we're craving IMO.

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

Paul Seedsman and Kyle Martin, two fringe players at Collingwood

Seedsmen, is fast, a great runner, long accurate kick, and I reckon has the potential to get a lot better.

Martin is a ball magnet, hard and tough, doesn't seem to be rated by Collingwood as much as I think he should.

could probably snare Seedsman cheaply, and Martin as a DFA

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Would love to have Gary Rohan at the club. Cruelled by injury but was looking like a huge talent before that. Has that outside speed that we're craving IMO.

I've watched a bit of Rohan and nothing I've seen has convinced me he's a huge talent.

I'm yet to see him play one dominant or near dominant game; he's got all the kudos in the world on here but there's no evidence he's any good.

He's played 31 games with an average disposal of 8.6 and 2.4 marks and .8 goals a game, I just can't see what the fuss is.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Paul Seedsman and Kyle Martin, two fringe players at Collingwood

Seedsmen, is fast, a great runner, long accurate kick, and I reckon has the potential to get a lot better.

Martin is a ball magnet, hard and tough, doesn't seem to be rated by Collingwood as much as I think he should.

could probably snare Seedsman cheaply, and Martin as a DFA

Seedsman is a mad Collingwood supporter and you'd have to drag him out of there, plus he's pretty highly regarded there.

[Machsy 2,858]

Huge call to say both will be champions Machsy. Good players but it will be interesting to gauge their worth when several of the Cats champs have finished up.

I use the term loosely, like most, but in terms of character, they are both of the highest calibre, and regarded as such down there.

They are the type of guys you build a club around, like Ling and Harley and Enright and Selwood before them.

Minimum of fuss, great work ethic, strong character, get the job done types.

Geelong would have to turn into Melbourne of 2013 for them to leave, and even then they're both the type of blokes to instead look to see if they were doing enough themselves to turn it around.

Can't speak about them highly enough, obviously.

[Brayshaw Self 847]

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