wouldn't mind trying to get both these boys into the club.

Harrison Wigg North Adelaide
14.10.1996 Height: 179cm Weight: 74kg
Small defender who is an elite left foot kick which helps set up his team on the rebound and from kick-ins. Reads the play exceptionally well, averaging 18.8 disposals at 79.3 per cent effectiveness during the NAB AFL U18 Championships and winning South Australia's MVP. To cap off an outstanding championships he was also named in the All Australian U18 team in defence.

Caleb Daniel South Adelaide
7.7.1996 Height: 167cm Weight: 68kg
Small forward who is a prolific ball winner, makes great decisions and executes well by hand or foot. Shows the ability to bring others into the game. Had an outstanding last three games of the U18 Championships, averaging 20 disposals at 92 per cent efficiency and two goals per game on his way to winning All Australian honours.

Caleb Daniel was the kid that dominated the last two games SA played in recent Championships. Although only small he was impossible to tackle and his skills both hand and feet were excellent.

At Roosy's pie night I spoke about Wright, Petracca, Brayshaw etc to Paul during the QA session. I finished my question by talking about this kid.Caleb Daniel I'm sure that he had never heard of him and when I said that he was only 168cm he laughed. Do you mean 186cm. No Paul 168. Laughter....laughter.

I said that this kid dominated and would be a fan favourite Laughter....laughter.

He obviously thought he was too small but my God no other kid took my notice as much as this player. Matt Campbell and Liam Pickering who were commentating were rapt in him.

He has firmed in some of the phantom drafts but could slide to a late pick because of this height. I would love this kid at MFC.

Caleb Daniel was the kid that dominated the last two games SA played in recent Championships. Although only small he was impossible to tackle and his skills both hand and feet were excellent.

At Roosy's pie night I spoke about Wright, Petracca, Brayshaw etc to Paul during the QA session. I finished my question by talking about this kid.Caleb Daniel I'm sure that he had never heard of him and when I said that he was only 168cm he laughed. Do you mean 186cm. No Paul 168. Laughter....laughter.

I said that this kid dominated and would be a fan favourite Laughter....laughter.

He obviously thought he was too small but my God no other kid took my notice as much as this player. Matt Campbell and Liam Pickering who were commentating were rapt in him.

He has firmed in some of the phantom drafts but could slide to a late pick because of this height. I would love this kid at MFC.

From what i saw he was ballantine mark 2. Disappointing to hear that they laughed at the thought of him.. Watch his highlights, better than most i saw from the carnival.

In my opinion Dubdee it was 7 years of drafting the wrong sort of players. Schwab and Prendergast seemed obsessed with nice boys of the highest character. Name me a competitive mongrel amongst Watts, Scully, Trengove, Cook, Gysberts, Blease, Tapscott, Toumpas? The Development was also non-existent once they got here, of course, but other clubs have found stars in the last 7 drafts.

I don't think you sacrifice the chance to bring in a potential A grader for the sake of multiple B-Graders (i.e. I believe Essendon offered Myers and Colyer last year for pick 2) just because we've been burnt in the past. You've got a much better chance of finding a Franklin, Roughead, Cotchin, Pendlebury etc at the pointy end of the draft.

I want Roos to rebuild the place properly and bring in some kids that possess traits to be elite players, develop them properly over the next 2 seasons, and in 5 seasons might be in Mike Sheahan's top 10 players in the league. I don't want a team of B-D graders - they don't win you games.

I hear what you are saying. we have definately drafted the wrong sort. But I think you can trade in stars. Apart from Hogan I see Tyson as the player with the biggest star potential on our list. So I reckon a combination on good trades and kids in draft is the go. unless no-one trades reasonably and if so, we hit the draft and hope for some stars. Lets hope the draft is more 2001 and less 2003 (although I get the feeling it more 2003)

I can't understand why we would trade pick 2 & miss out on a gun mid like Petracca. Where is the sense in that? You should always take the best available in the draft & he sounds like it. I'm sick of us stuffing up big time at the draft table so by overlooking Petracca & taking a less quality player in Brayshaw makes no sense at all.

What makes you say brayshaw is a lesser quality player? Have you actually seen either play?

I have and both are high quality, a level above the other kids on field and with different strengths.

Don't worry whoever gets brayshaw will be very happy with his quality.

I found it hard to split them. So interested to know what makes petracca so much better?

For anyone thinking that Caleb Daniel at 168cm is too small, it's the same height as Brent Harvey (he's done pretty well). Not saying he'll turn out like Harvey, but if you're good enough you're tall enough.

Goes harder at the ball than Jack Watts anyway. Height is not the be all end all, nor is talent (as Watts with all his height and ability can demonstrate).

For anyone thinking that Caleb Daniel at 168cm is too small, it's the same height as Brent Harvey (he's done pretty well). Not saying he'll turn out like Harvey, but if you're good enough you're tall enough.

Goes harder at the ball than Jack Watts anyway. Height is not the be all end all, nor is talent (as Watts with all his height and ability can demonstrate).

Brent Harvey 172cm

We haven't had a phantom draft for a little while so here's one from bigfooty's Chris25:-

Round 1

1. St Kilda - Patrick McCartin (193cm, 95kg forward from Geelong Falcons, VIC)
2. Melbourne - Christian Petracca (186cm, 92kg midfielder/forward from Eastern Ranges, VIC)
3. GWS - Jake Lever (192cm, 84kg defender from Calder Cannons, VIC)
4. Brisbane - Angus Brayshaw (187cm, 86kg midfielder from Sandringhan Dragons, VIC)
5. Western Bulldogs - Peter Wright (203cm, 102kg ruckman/forward from Calder Cannons, VIC)
6. Carlton - Liam Duggan (183cm, 76kg midfielder from Western Jets, VIC)
7. Gold Coast - Lachie Weller (181cm, 71kg midfielder from Broadbeach, QLD)
8. Adelaide - Sam Durdin (197cm, 87kg defender/forward from West Adelaide, SA)
9. West Coast - Jarrod Pickett (180cm, 68kg midfielder from South Fremantle, WA)
10. Collingwood - Darcy Moore (199cm, 93kg defender/forward from Oakleigh Chargers, VIC)
11. Richmond - Paul Ahern (181cm, 77kg midfielder from Calder Cannons, VIC)
12. North Melbourne - Jordan DeGoey (187cm, 82kg midfielder from Oakleigh Chargers, VIC)
13. Port Adelaide - Tom Lamb (192cm, 83kg forward from Dandenong Stingrays, VIC)
14. Fremantle - Hugh Goddard (196cm, 93kg defender/forward from Geelong Falcons, VIC)
15. Geelong - Jayden Laverde (189cm, 82kg midfielder/defender from Western Jets, VIC)
16. Gold Coast - Caleb Marchbank (193cm, 85kg defender from Murray Bushrangers, VIC)
17. Hawthorn - Corey Ellis (185cm, 76kg midfielder from Western Jets, VIC)
18. Sydney - Isaac Heeney (186cm, 82kg midfielder from Cardiff, NSW/ACT)
19. Essendon - Jackson Nelson (187cm, 80kg midfielder/defender from Geelong Falcons, VIC)
20. GWS - Josh Glenn (179cm, 78kg midfielder/defender from Central Districts, SA)


Round 2

21. St Kilda - Alex Neal Bullen (182cm, 77kg midfielder/defender from Glenelg, SA)
22. Melbourne - Billy Stretch (181cm, 70kg midfielder from Glenelg, SA)
23. GWS - Jeremy Finlayson (195cm, 84kg forward/defender from Hills Eagles, NSW/ACT)
24. Brisbane - Kyle Langford (190cm, 73kg forward/defender from Northern Knights, VIC)
25. Western Bulldogs - Peter Bampton (182cm, 83kg midfielder from Norwood, SA)
26. Carlton - Reece McKenzie (196cm, 100kg forward from Northern Knights, VIC)
27. Gold Coast - Brayden Maynard (186cm, 88kg midfielder/defender from Sandringham Dragons, VIC)
28. Adelaide - Declan Hamilton (183cm, 68kg midfielder/forward from Port Adelaide, SA)
29. West Coast - Oleg Markov (186cm, 69kg midfielder from North Adelaide, SA)
30. Collingwood - Connor Blakely (186cm, 81kg midfielder from Swan Districts, WA)
31. Richmond - Clem Smith (178cm, 67kg defender/midfielder from Perth, WA)
32. North Melbourne - Connor Menadue (188cm, 69kg midfielder from Western Jets, VIC)
33. Port Adelaide - Damien Cavka (184cm, 79kg midfielder from Calder Cannons, VIC)
34. Fremantle - Brenden Abbott (185cm, 92kg midfielder/defender from Claremont, WA)
35. Geelong - Daniel McKenzie (183cm, 77kg midfielder/defender from Oakleigh Chargers, VIC)
36. Hawthorn - Tyler Keitel (194cm, 86kg forward/defender from East Perth, WA)
37. Sydney - Jack Steele (186cm, 82kg midfielder from Belconnen, NSW/ACT)


Round 3

38. St Kilda - Ed Vickers Willis (190cm, 82kg defender from Sandringham Dragons, VIC)
39. Melbourne - Dean Gore (183cm, 86kg midfielder from Sturt, SA)
40. GWS - Harrison Wigg (179cm, 74kg midfielder/defender from North Adelaide, SA)
41. Brisbane - Matthew Hammelmann (197cm, 86kg forward from Morningside, QLD)
42. Western Bulldogs - Zaine Cordy (192cm, 80kg defender from Geelong Falcons, VIC)
43. Carlton - Dillon Viojo Rainbow (185cm, 80kg defender from Western Jets, VIC)
44. Gold Coast - Caleb Daniel (167cm, 66kg midfielder from South Adelaide, SA)
45. Adelaide - Matthew Goodyear (185cm, 77kg midfielder from Calder Cannons, VIC)
46. West Coast - Alec Waterman (183cm, 89kg midfielder from Claremont, WA)
47. Collingwood - Lukas Webb (186cm, 80kg midfielder/forward from Gippsland Power, VIC)
48. Richmond - Keenan Ramsey (193cm, 86kg defender/forward from Port Adelaide, SA)
49. Essendon - Cory Gregson (175cm, 72kg midfielder from Glenelg, SA)
50. North Melbourne - Jaden McGrath (179cm, 73kg midfielder/defender from Bendigo, VIC)
51. Port Adelaide - James Rose (186cm, 78kg forward/midfielder from Sturt, SA)
52. Fremantle - Brenton Payne (193cm, 76kg forward from Western Jets, VIC)
53. Geelong - Christian Buykx Smith (193cm, 82kg defender from Gippsland, VIC)
54. Hawthorn - Jarrod Garlett (177cm, 73kg midfielder/forward from South Fremantle, WA)
55. Sydney - Abe Davis (193cm, 90kg forward/defender from UNSW-Easts, NSW/ACT)

Brent Harvey 172cm

Not according to the Kangas website

http://www.nmfc.com.au/player-profile/brent-harvey

My best guess at the first round would be

1.Stkilda - Patrick McCartin

2.Melbourne - Christian Petracca

3.Melbourne - Angus Brayshaw

4.GWS - Sam Durdin ( I reckon they want a key defender and despite his injury is a serious talent )

5.Brisbane - Peter Wright

6.Bulldogs - Caleb Marchbank ( heard rumours they may take him a little early and love the look of him )

7. Carlton - Tom Lamb ( Waite and Casbault rumoured to be leaving they need a forward target )

8. Suns - Liam Duggan

9.Crows- Jake Lever

10.Eagles- Jarrod Pickett

11.Pies-Darcey Moore

12.Richmond- Jayden Laverde

13.North - Paul Ahern

14.Port - Jordan Degoey

15.Freo- Hugh Goddard

16.Geelong- Lachie Wellar

17.Hawthorn- Corey Ellis

18.Sydney- Issac Heeney

I believe we will get stretch as a third round pick because no team will risk a player like Ahern or Laverde slipping down and them missing out if we call their bluff in the first round

MFC second round pick - Brayden maynard, Roos wants blokes who bleed red and blue and has expressed a preference to draft mids and trade in key position players

Hogan

Maynard

Petracca

Brayshaw

Stretch

and later picks would be handy imo

FWIW I read on a couple of sites (can't remember which ones) that next years draft has a bunch of good mids in the first round. Would that influence clubs to take KP players this year, as good KPs are generally rarer to find in the draft?

FWIW I read on a couple of sites (can't remember which ones) that next years draft has a bunch of good mids in the first round. Would that influence clubs to take KP players this year, as good KPs are generally rarer to find in the draft?

Good strategy

Caleb Daniel was the kid that dominated the last two games SA played in recent Championships. Although only small he was impossible to tackle and his skills both hand and feet were excellent.

At Roosy's pie night I spoke about Wright, Petracca, Brayshaw etc to Paul during the QA session. I finished my question by talking about this kid.Caleb Daniel I'm sure that he had never heard of him and when I said that he was only 168cm he laughed. Do you mean 186cm. No Paul 168. Laughter....laughter.

I said that this kid dominated and would be a fan favourite Laughter....laughter.

He obviously thought he was too small but my God no other kid took my notice as much as this player. Matt Campbell and Liam Pickering who were commentating were rapt in him.

He has firmed in some of the phantom drafts but could slide to a late pick because of this height. I would love this kid at MFC.

This sucks, I was hoping Daniel would end up a Dee, I suppose he's icing for a better list though.

TAC Cup Future Stars - Top 20 rolling draft

1. St. Kilda - Christian Petracca

2. Melbourne - Angus Brayshaw

3. GWS Giants - Peter Wright

4. Brisbane - Patrick McCartin

5. Western Bulldogs - Jake Lever

6. Carlton - Jayden Laverde

7. Gold Coast - Paul Ahern

8. Collingwood - Darcy Moore

9. Adelaide - Sam Durdin

10. West Coast - Jarrod Pickett

11. Richmond - Liam Duggan

12. Fremantle - Kyle Langford

13. Geelong - Caleb Marchbank

14. Gold Coast - Lachie Weller

15. North Melbourne - Ed Vickers-Willis

16. Port Adelaide - Hugh Goddard

17. Hawthorn - Tom Lamb

18. Sydney - Isaac Heeney

19. Essendon - Clem Smith

20. GWS Giants - Corey Ellis

I have a feeling that Hugh Goddard will prove to be the surprise packet of the draft. Has a lot of talent. Put him in a team like Haw or Syd or Freo surrounded by leaders and club riches and he might thrive.

Jack steele sounds interesting...any phantoms have him getting to second round?

Saints will still take mccartin pick 1, I reckon they would even take Wright over petracca

Saints will still take mccartin pick 1, I reckon they would even take Wright over petracca

They'll take best available, they have big needs everywhere (as do we).

They'll take best available, they have big needs everywhere (as do we).

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Saints will still take mccartin pick 1, I reckon they would even take Wright over petracca

I agree, Roo just signed to play until 2016, two year apprenticeship awaits.

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Past your bed time, little boy?

How do Essendon and GWS have picks 19 and 20?

I have a feeling that Hugh Goddard will prove to be the surprise packet of the draft. Has a lot of talent. Put him in a team like Haw or Syd or Freo surrounded by leaders and club riches and he might thrive.

I've been liking the look of him too. I know it's unlikely, but I'd hope if he slipped we'd snatch him up with our second round pick or if we'd traded for a later first rounder.

They'll take best available, they have big needs everywhere (as do we).

Agree with this. The Saints are desperate for a quality tall forward so Nick isn't carrying the side on his own, but they also only have a couple of decent mids and their backline are all getting to their used-by date. They even need a ruck. There is seriously no area where they don't need players, so it's far from a sure thing that they'll take a tall early, especially if they can trade for one from somewhere.

question is whether st kilda is going to take the type of player they believe they need, or just take the best player and hope that compensates for taking a lesser player later in the draft to cover that need.

Saints will still take mccartin pick 1, I reckon they would even take Wright over petracca

You're only hoping, I thought they would too but it is looking more likely they will take Petracca or trade pick one to GWS who will take him.