I don't care about the start of the season, we just need these boys right come September

If you are one of those looking for 6-8 wins this year then september will be pre season training.

Can't see why we would need them then.

Any way they will probably be going for post season surgery getting ready for 2015 season.

Some future deja vous for you.

This is Clarks 3rd season.

He is getting $800,000 a year.

He is out of contract at the end of September 2015, I think.

He has played 15 games for Melbourne Football Club.

please someone tell me Ive got it wrong.

Why do you care? We have to pay someone the salary cap, we already don't pay the full amount and aren't anywhere near salary cap pressure, or anybody else wanting more money that we can't pay. Our only free agent, Chip, can be covered with the cap as is, and by the time our young players want a pile, these contracts will be gone.

Just don't see what the big deal is. You win some, you lose some.

Our $1,000,000 forward line will never play together.

4 - 6 weeks I suspect.

[censored] you got to love love this Neeld fella. He isnt even at the club anymore and his actions are still giving me the shits. These 2 are close to being added to the "Neeld legacy"

Why do you care? We have to pay someone the salary cap, we already don't pay the full amount and aren't anywhere near salary cap pressure, or anybody else wanting more money that we can't pay. Our only free agent, Chip, can be covered with the cap as is, and by the time our young players want a pile, these contracts will be gone.

Just don't see what the big deal is. You win some, you lose some.

It's a big deal of money. We have ahistory of bad returns from players we recruit from other clubs.

Many here have deeper pockets than me but I pay membership each year and enter auctions etc.

yours iis a very lazze faire position to take. You have deeper reserves of patience which I envy.

We haven't won a game yet. If we lose to the saints it wil be because we missed these two.

It's a big deal of money. We have ahistory of bad returns from players we recruit from other clubs.

Many here have deeper pockets than me but I pay membership each year and enter auctions etc.

yours iis a very lazze faire position to take. You have deeper reserves of patience which I envy.

We haven't won a game yet. If we lose to the saints it wil be because we missed these two.

No, I completely agree with the paying the memberships, club being in debt etc etc. That is an entirely separate issue.

All I am saying is, we have to pay someone and who else, in the last three years, would you have thrown $800k at in preference?

I'm totally not saying he has been value for money. But it isn't about all of us paying money into the club that's being squadered. We're not paying close to the salary cap as it is.

Be good to at least have Dawes in for round 1.

Didnt Dawes play in the intra club less than 2 weeks ago?

Whats his problem now?

Meanwhile, over at St. Kilda who we play in round 1, the situation looks like this:-

Sam Gilbert (foot) 5-6 weeks

Lenny Hayes (suspended) returns in Round 2

Terry Milera (foot) 1-2 weeks

Leigh Montagna (suspended) returns in Round 2

Lewis Pierce (back) 6-10 weeks

Jack Steven (foot) 8-10 weeks

Maverick Weller (suspended) returns in Round 2

Spencer White (hamstring) 1-2 weeks

Meanwhile, over at St. Kilda who we play in round 1, the situation looks like this:-

Sam Gilbert (foot) 5-6 weeks

Lenny Hayes (suspended) returns in Round 2

Terry Milera (foot) 1-2 weeks

Leigh Montagna (suspended) returns in Round 2

Lewis Pierce (back) 6-10 weeks

Jack Steven (foot) 8-10 weeks

Maverick Weller (suspended) returns in Round 2

Spencer White (hamstring) 1-2 weeks

Crikey, I hope they are not paying those blokes or some Saint supporter will moan about the cost. Look, you offer the bloke a contract. He doesn't intend to get injured. Bad stuff happens. It's disappointing, just have to live with it.

MELBOURNE Player Injury Estimated Return Mitch Clark Hamstring 2-3 weeks Chris Dawes Calf 1-2 weeks Colin Garland Ankle 3-4 weeks Aidan Riley* Leg 6 weeks Luke Tapscott Knee 1 week Updated: Wednesday, March 5

As posted on AFL.com.au

Crikey, I hope they are not paying those blokes or some Saint supporter will moan about the cost. Look, you offer the bloke a contract. He doesn't intend to get injured. Bad stuff happens. It's disappointing, just have to live with it.

Come back to me again at the start of next year when he has played another 5 or 6 games.

Thats more than I expect. Your typical simplistic response will probably be the same.

To spell it out for you I dont believe he prepares himself correctly. It would have been known that soft tissue injuries following his Lisfranc was possible.

The foot injury was apparently finished well before summer. It is both the club and the players' responsibility to train and recover in the best possible fashion.

Look at Hawthorn players making a pact on the night of winning a premiership to come back in excellent shape to attempt back to back. Does Clark (and possibly Dawes) have that work ethic?

I reckon Dawes will be back by round 6 or 7.

He injured his calf last year in NAB 1 and didn't return until the GOld Coast game in round 7. There was no transparancy from the club.

Kind of sounds like the same story this year.

He seem like a really slow healer.

This is Clarks 3rd season.

He is getting $800,000 a year.

He is out of contract at the end of September 2015, I think.

He has played 15 games for Melbourne Football Club.

please someone tell me Ive got it wrong.

Yeah, that's clever.

Blame Clark for getting injured.

SMH.

When he was playing, all were lauding him for his courageous attack on the footy in the air.

Anyone remember the attempt where he actually damaged the lisfranc?

Knocked himself out in the process.

And some are silly enough to think that should be condemned in retrospect.

Short memories.

Come back to me again at the start of next year when he has played another 5 or 6 games.

Thats more than I expect. Your typical simplistic response will probably be the same.

To spell it out for you I dont believe he prepares himself correctly. It would have been known that soft tissue injuries following his Lisfranc was possible.

The foot injury was apparently finished well before summer. It is both the club and the players' responsibility to train and recover in the best possible fashion.

Look at Hawthorn players making a pact on the night of winning a premiership to come back in excellent shape to attempt back to back. Does Clark (and possibly Dawes) have that work ethic?

I think you will find that a) that pact probably was more about not going out on the turps every night and maintaining a healthy diet as well as some light training, and b) Clark and Dawes both adhere to a similar work ethic.

That you could seriously suggest the players take responsibility for their training regimes and understand the implications of certain kinds of exercise post Lisfranc recovery, is an absolute joke... that is why we have people like Misson at the club and even they will not get it right 100% on the time.

Sorry, but I don't think it's Sue who is being simplistic.

It's a big deal of money. We have ahistory of bad returns from players we recruit from other clubs.

Many here have deeper pockets than me but I pay membership each year and enter auctions etc.

yours iis a very lazze faire position to take. You have deeper reserves of patience which I envy.

We haven't won a game yet. If we lose to the saints it wil be because we missed these two.

You missed the point,

Come back to me again at the start of next year when he has played another 5 or 6 games.

Thats more than I expect. Your typical simplistic response will probably be the same.

To spell it out for you I dont believe he prepares himself correctly. It would have been known that soft tissue injuries following his Lisfranc was possible.

The foot injury was apparently finished well before summer. It is both the club and the players' responsibility to train and recover in the best possible fashion.

Look at Hawthorn players making a pact on the night of winning a premiership to come back in excellent shape to attempt back to back. Does Clark (and possibly Dawes) have that work ethic?

I don't think you have ever played the game or have never had an injury.....Players get injured ...it is a fact of life playing this game....Some players have a charmed run others don't

It is not their fault.....Just a fact of the life of a footballer....Afl or any other league.....

I know our players should have made a pact at the start of this year....."ok boys...no one gets injured this year...OK?....Geez

Come back to me again at the start of next year when he has played another 5 or 6 games.

Thats more than I expect. Your typical simplistic response will probably be the same.

To spell it out for you I dont believe he prepares himself correctly. It would have been known that soft tissue injuries following his Lisfranc was possible.

The foot injury was apparently finished well before summer. It is both the club and the players' responsibility to train and recover in the best possible fashion.

Look at Hawthorn players making a pact on the night of winning a premiership to come back in excellent shape to attempt back to back. Does Clark (and possibly Dawes) have that work ethic?

What planet are you on? They are injured.

And you are questioning their work ethic? Their work eithic is impeccable. In fact prior to Cross arriving it was the best alongside NJones.

I'd be questioning your ability to distinguish between the two concepts of injury and work ethic.

Franky what you are saying is bordering on insulting...It is a full contact sport AFL injuries happen.

Sit behind the interchange bench sometime on the boundry line...You can hear the injuries happen.

What planet are you on? They are injured.

And you are questioning their work ethic? Their work eithic is impeccable. In fact prior to Cross arriving it was the best alongside NJones.

I'd be questioning your ability to distinguish between the two concepts of injury and work ethic.

Their work eithic (sic) is impeccable? What makes you think so?

Both of Their recovery planning looks amateur to me.

My belief is that they could have managed both soft tissue injuries better earlier.

If they are back in 2 or 3 weeks, fine. Im wrong, but I dont believe it.

Getting very frustrating and the lack of football for both Dawes and Clark make you wonder if they did play it wouldn't be long.. Fragile !!!

I don't think you have ever played the game or have never had an injury.....Players get injured ...it is a fact of life playing this game....Some players have a charmed run others don't

It is not their fault.....Just a fact of the life of a footballer....Afl or any other league.....

I know our players should have made a pact at the start of this year....."ok boys...no one gets injured this year...OK?....Geez

Nose, teeth, knees, hamstrings, ankles, toes, back but especially fingers. Ive spent money on injuries.

Ive no idea who you are sport but you want to do half an hour kick to kick one evening, 10 minutes of of run throughs?

Peanut farm St Kilda, pick a night, not Wednesdays. Im 58 short and not particularly fit, slightly overweight, I guess,

but unless youve finished playing in the last few years, Im confident Ive got a big mouth like you well covered. IM me.

Ive got a new Sherrin KB.

we all need to calm down and take a deep breath. We all hoped Clarke and dawes would be good to go Rd1 but unfortunately that's not the case. Its not Dawes knee keeping him out like we feared its his calf. Its not clarkes foot keeping him out like we feared its his hammy. Long story short its damn bad luck.

We will have Dawes back Rd2 if not Rd1 and we will have Clarke back Rd 3-4. So lets get this straight they could play up to 17 or 18 together this year. so lets temped that idea of them never playing together. Lets hope Jesse doesn't get thrown around too much by the big defenders and looses confidence (I think we all know that's not going to happen) and when Dawes and Clarke come in they can take the big defendeds.

How exciting is it too think, all going well by Rd 3 or 4 (unfortunately not Rd1) that jesse and Howe will be taking defender 3 and 4.

This might help some people relax. All good things take time!

Can't wait for the Clark, Dawes and Hogan trio to wreak havoc! Throw in JKH and Howe and every defence will dread playing us.