Lets not get too excited chaps. Silvia hasnt signalled his intentions other than to say he wants to be a one club player.

Lets not get too excited chaps. Silvia hasnt signalled his intentions other than to say he wants to be a one club player.

He has not signed either. the longer it goes on the greater chance he will be somewhere else.

I just wish he would make the announcement either way.

"Sylvia's mother says Sylvia's packing, he's going to be leaving today.

Sylvia's mother says, Sylvia's manager is going the heave-ho way.

Sylvia's mother says, please don't say nothing to make him start

crying and stay..." (Apologies, Dr. Hook)

The press reports which cite Fremantle's interest also admit that he is yet to meet with Roos since his return from the USA. I would back Roos to give him the best advice on his future and that of the Dees and i suspect that he may well be pulling on his No. 12 again next year.

... we must make sure that the compo selection is used for the betterment of developing the list, not to be used to find another "mature body" akin to last years Neeld disaster of finding whatever scraps clubs were willing to send us.

I don't regard our recruiting efforts in 2012 as a disaster at all. We managed to get Jack Viney with a second rounder, got the player we wanted in Jimmy Toumpas at pick 4, picked up Jesse Hogan and Dom Barry in the mini draft, Dean Kent looks likely and mature age recruits Matt Jones, Dean Terlich and Mitch Clisby all showed a lot. Injuries aside, Chris Dawes provided leadership and will be a very handy cog in our forward line with a healthy body and a full pre season behind him.

Given the turnover of 14 players in a season, the players you get at the end of the line are always going to be a bit of pot luck. I think Pedersen was a fair swap for Gysberts who didn't get a game at North. Byrnes cost absolutely nothing and is there as much as anything for experience and leadership. That leaves us with David Rodan who we picked up for pick 88 (and a similar role to Byrnes) and Tom Gillies, a flop who came as a delisted free agent and cost nothing.

On balance, I think our recruiting at the end of 2012 was a plus given the necessarily high turnover in players. I'd be happy with more of the same with the rider that we should expect at least one high quality trade coming in if we let pick 2 go.

I don't regard our recruiting efforts in 2012 as a disaster at all. We managed to get Jack Viney with a second rounder, got the player we wanted in Jimmy Toumpas at pick 4, picked up Jesse Hogan and Dom Barry in the mini draft, Dean Kent looks likely and mature age recruits Matt Jones, Dean Terlich and Mitch Clisby all showed a lot. Injuries aside, Chris Dawes provided leadership and will be a very handy cog in our forward line with a healthy body and a full pre season behind him.

Given the turnover of 14 players in a season, the players you get at the end of the line are always going to be a bit of pot luck. I think Pedersen was a fair swap for Gysberts who didn't get a game at North. Byrnes cost absolutely nothing and is there as much as anything for experience and leadership. That leaves us with David Rodan who we picked up for pick 88 (and a similar role to Byrnes) and Tom Gillies, a flop who came as a delisted free agent and cost nothing.

On balance, I think our recruiting at the end of 2012 was a plus given the necessarily high turnover in players. I'd be happy with more of the same with the rider that we should expect at least one high quality trade coming in if we let pick 2 go.

Perfect summary. There are so many things to dislike about the Neeld era but the 2012 draft period is not one of them

Lets not get too excited chaps. Silvia hasnt signalled his intentions other than to say he wants to be a one club player.

yes Mr $cully

I don't regard our recruiting efforts in 2012 as a disaster at all. We managed to get Jack Viney with a second rounder, got the player we wanted in Jimmy Toumpas at pick 4, picked up Jesse Hogan and Dom Barry in the mini draft, Dean Kent looks likely and mature age recruits Matt Jones, Dean Terlich and Mitch Clisby all showed a lot. Injuries aside, Chris Dawes provided leadership and will be a very handy cog in our forward line with a healthy body and a full pre season behind him.

Given the turnover of 14 players in a season, the players you get at the end of the line are always going to be a bit of pot luck. I think Pedersen was a fair swap for Gysberts who didn't get a game at North. Byrnes cost absolutely nothing and is there as much as anything for experience and leadership. That leaves us with David Rodan who we picked up for pick 88 (and a similar role to Byrnes) and Tom Gillies, a flop who came as a delisted free agent and cost nothing.

On balance, I think our recruiting at the end of 2012 was a plus given the necessarily high turnover in players. I'd be happy with more of the same with the rider that we should expect at least one high quality trade coming in if we let pick 2 go.

And yet we went backwards in games won and ladder position.

You can hardly call the 2013 MFC players list a functional team

Who goes out of the Freo 22 to fit him in on a regular basis?

Who goes out of the Freo 22 to fit him in on a regular basis?

Possibly Michie leaving frees up a spot ?

I don't regard our recruiting efforts in 2012 as a disaster at all. We managed to get Jack Viney with a second rounder, got the player we wanted in Jimmy Toumpas at pick 4, picked up Jesse Hogan and Dom Barry in the mini draft, Dean Kent looks likely and mature age recruits Matt Jones, Dean Terlich and Mitch Clisby all showed a lot. Injuries aside, Chris Dawes provided leadership and will be a very handy cog in our forward line with a healthy body and a full pre season behind him.

Given the turnover of 14 players in a season, the players you get at the end of the line are always going to be a bit of pot luck. I think Pedersen was a fair swap for Gysberts who didn't get a game at North. Byrnes cost absolutely nothing and is there as much as anything for experience and leadership. That leaves us with David Rodan who we picked up for pick 88 (and a similar role to Byrnes) and Tom Gillies, a flop who came as a delisted free agent and cost nothing.

On balance, I think our recruiting at the end of 2012 was a plus given the necessarily high turnover in players. I'd be happy with more of the same with the rider that we should expect at least one high quality trade coming in if we let pick 2 go.

I agree 100%. The media moneyball took on a life of its own and became a truth because it was stated so often. The recruitng last year was the best we have done for years. None of the duds we moved on got a game anywhere. Molloney was a loss as will Sylvia but if the player decides to walk then that is their call and there is only so much the club can do. Rodan and Byrnes were free ad cheap and were ot our worst performers and added critical seniority and leadership to the team. They allowed for the appropriate development of the youngsters at Casey without the need to play thyem in the AFL too early.

If we can get the same results this year as last I would be very happy.

I've been saying it all year and I'll say it again. Bye Bye Col.

I don't regard our recruiting efforts in 2012 as a disaster at all. We managed to get Jack Viney with a second rounder, got the player we wanted in Jimmy Toumpas at pick 4, picked up Jesse Hogan and Dom Barry in the mini draft, Dean Kent looks likely and mature age recruits Matt Jones, Dean Terlich and Mitch Clisby all showed a lot. Injuries aside, Chris Dawes provided leadership and will be a very handy cog in our forward line with a healthy body and a full pre season behind him.

Given the turnover of 14 players in a season, the players you get at the end of the line are always going to be a bit of pot luck. I think Pedersen was a fair swap for Gysberts who didn't get a game at North. Byrnes cost absolutely nothing and is there as much as anything for experience and leadership. That leaves us with David Rodan who we picked up for pick 88 (and a similar role to Byrnes) and Tom Gillies, a flop who came as a delisted free agent and cost nothing.

On balance, I think our recruiting at the end of 2012 was a plus given the necessarily high turnover in players. I'd be happy with more of the same with the rider that we should expect at least one high quality trade coming in if we let pick 2 go.

I disagree withe notion its anything like a A or B+ . The jury is still out on whether Toumpas was the right call and until such time as its clear it was a good one then you cant allude to it yet. I only mention that as its relevant , not to incite another battle, but it has currency.. I thought Rodan a good pick and a shame he was cruelled by injury otherwise Id have him still on list for next year...just to keep some honest. I cant imagine what Neeld was thinking in getting Gillies, let alone Pedersen. What mattter it of their cost pick wise ,we've still got bloody Pedersen. There must have been others also to look at. I think Neeld had his Geelong goggles on at some point.

2012 , far from a disaster, some distance form unmitigated success

Just on SEN.

From the mouth of Greg Denham.

Sylvia to definitely go Freo front runner Bummers are 2nd fav.

But definitely will not be at Dees

I am just the messenger

Bigger loss than most people realise.

We need his size.. this is another sign best mate Jamar is gawn too

Just on SEN.

From the mouth of Greg Denham.

Sylvia to definitely go Freo front runner Bummers are 2nd fav.

But definitely will not be at Dees

I am just the messenger

Big loss - under valued player on here

Hope he is looking at a big contract (500,000) I want my compensation.

I expect Col to go. It wouldnt bother me as much as it would had if Watts left. Just as long as he doesnt end up at essendon.

Im sure he wants to play finals. Hope he does in end up at freo

bye

Bigger loss than most people realise.

We need his size.. this is another sign best mate Jamar is gawn too

Doesnt jamar still have 2 years on his contract?

Bigger loss than most people realise.

We need his size.. this is another sign best mate Jamar is gawn too

I disagree.. probably the most over rated player on our list in a decade...ooh funny that 10 years !!

there are many a player out there that will play better and harder over the next 2-3 years.

Watch Sylvia struggle anywhere else when his dedication trips him up

Didn't Barrett say he thinks North will win the flag next year? He's a massive [censored].

He also mentioned that at the start of last year. Even bigger.....

Doesnt jamar still have 2 years on his contract?

yep

yep

Now mummy is at GWS, he may not get a trade....Hawks going for Longer too.

Only real locations could be GC, Cats, Port?

Scully, rivers, McLean, Moloney and now Sylvia. Wow.

What did they achieve for us??

I disagree.. probably the most over rated player on our list in a decade...ooh funny that 10 years !!

there are many a player out there that will play better and harder over the next 2-3 years.

Watch Sylvia struggle anywhere else when his dedication trips him up

I bet you will be eating your words come round 1 next year.

Sylvia in a good midfield will be like the Moloney effect times 10.