Who will be worse next year? Saints or us?

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,602]

Anyone else predict that the saints will have a shocker next season?

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

Will be surprised if we don't finish above the 'aints.

They ain't got nothing.

[Little Goffy 14,639]

I'd say something like 'never underestimate the influence of a few true champions on a team', but, well, their champion players were mostly available this season, and they'll only be older and fewer next year.

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

we have alot of unfulfilled talent, who knows what we could do next year under Roos, we might fly up the ladder much quicker than people expect

I'd be surprised if we aren't a much improved team next year, but i can't see where the improvement is going to come from for the saints, Jack Steven is the only genuine A grade player coming through.

[angrydee 842]

Will be surprised if we don't finish above the 'aints.

They ain't got nothing.

Totally agree.

[Demon trucker 1,800]

Well I think 2013 is saints 2007 in in 2007 we won 5 games where competive most games having most of our stars, they have been competive most weeks

[CBDees 3,167]

There is no question that we will perform better than the Saints and a number of other teams, particularly with the methodical way we have been restructuring our football department over the last six months and the rebuild of our list which will take place under Roos.

[beelzebub 23,383]

they face serious restocking . A few clubs are lining up to pick the eyes out.

2014 going to be a year of pain for the Aints !!

[CBDees 3,167]

they face serious restocking . A few clubs are lining up to pick the eyes out.

2014 going to be a year of pain for the Aints !!

Including Nick Del Santo. Whereas none of our MVPs are tipped to depart now that Roos is on board.

[What 18,810]

considering we will make the 8 i doubt very much the SaInts will finish above us

[Little Richard 6,265]

considering we will make the 8 i doubt very much the SaInts will finish above us

You pessimist

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Unless we have a full and firing list with some apt experienced list additions I don't expect a better 2014 than last year. It's a matter if StKilda deteriorate to our standard.

Both bottom 4 sides next year.

[hardtack 10,626]

I think most of us were probably saying similar things about Port at the end of last season, and West Coast the season before that... so, I am very loathe to do make the same mistake again in underestimating yet another team "on the way out".

[old dee 23,871]

There is no question that we will perform better than the Saints and a number of other teams, particularly with the methodical way we have been restructuring our football department over the last six months and the rebuild of our list which will take place under Roos.

YES THERE IS!

[jabberwocky 2,301]

Show me the starting midfield for both teams and I'll let you know

[old dee 23,871]

Unless we have a full and firing list with some apt experienced list additions I don't expect a better 2014 than last year. It's a matter if StKilda deteriorate to our standard.

Both bottom 4 sides next year.

Yep

I hate this RR

I find myself agreeing with you most days!!

[old dee 23,871]

Including Nick Del Santo. Whereas none of our MVPs are tipped to depart now that Roos is on board.

That is a very select group CBD considering at best only two are out of contract.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,939]

I would say we'll be worse than St Kilda, only because I'm used to disappointment.

[Karl Stefanovic 107]

I would be hesitant in suggesting our position or other teams positions at this time. I'm getting the feeling on these boards that a lot of supporters have this mentality that Paul Roos is the messiah. I think its great for us that we were able to land such an influential coach and I have no doubt that we will see improvement in the coming season but to think that we will be able to pull a "Port Adelaide" is, I believe, setting many up for disappointment. Don't get me wrong, I will happily be proven incorrect, but I'm not holding my breath that we will be sniffing finals next year or even moving up the ladder. I've been optimistic for too long now.

[Machsy 2,858]

I don't know where we will finish, but I do expect the Saints to get the wooden spoon.

[Ouch! 2,266]

Trade period will tell us a bit about the chances of our club and others.. if Roos assists the club in landing some players then we could snag some wins in 2014... Conversely, the Saints and Lions could lose a few players and I suspect will be in for a painful year.

Collingwood is the other team I am interested in looking at for next year with the reported 'clean out'...

[Damo 3,374]

Im resigned to the wooden spoon next year. I would prefer that to looking forward to one year wonders like Daniel Cross.

Even if we bring in a few more superannuated players in their twilight, I cant see us beating GWS or Saints. GWS will be better and the Saints can actually hit targets.

Next year will be rough IMO.

[Tatu 416]

Whats the saying?

People who live in glass houses, shouldnt through the first stone....

[Pipefitter 2,168]

I thought we would have overtaken them this year. In fact i made a very silly bet with my st. kilda loving inlaws last preseason that we would this year. Not going to make any rash comments on st kilda again next year haha.

[felixdacat 459]

There seems to be a lot of uber optimism that is bordering on counting chickens. i would hope that we improve under Roos but how much and when is anybody's guess. Whether there is improvement or not for St Kilda is anybodies guess. i would hope we go better but still hard to call definetively always endeavour not to Ante Victoriam ne canas triumph