The boys have been training the house down ...

RBB your last name is not Neeld by any chance LOL

RBB your last name is not Neeld by any chance LOL

Didn't see that coming

RBB your last name is not Neeld by any chance LOL

It is what it is ...

Didn't see that coming

It just he loved preseason and thought it showed how good we would be in the main season

I am still scared Cry Cry Cry

It just he loved preseason and thought it showed how good we would be in the main season

I am still scared Cry Cry Cry

Chin up, DF. Once OD gives the new coach the once over at the AGM, things will be a lot clearer! :lol:

Chin up, DF. Once OD gives the new coach the once over at the AGM, things will be a lot clearer! :lol:

Not sure OD will recover from the Mitchie thread in time for the AGM.

This one's about steroids but the question as to whether science has created a monster for society lies at the heart of the matter and could explain why the investigations into both the NRL and the AFL seem to be dragging on into eternity. The authorities need to get this one right because there are big fish to fry - Australia's Illegal Steroid Trade Is Exploding, And Could Be Fuelling Street Violence.

Noticed this tweet and I wonder if some interesting developments will all co-incide at the same time next month?

auskadi‏@auskadi

Vlad gone in February according to SEN this morning. #DemetriGate

US Cycling Athlete, Baker, Accepts Sanction for Anti-Doping Rule Violation

Baker was taking synthetic testosterone in a therapeutic dose under the care of a physician and although he disclosed that information during the sample collection, he did not follow the Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE) requirements prior to competing.

So this guy gets 2 years just for not filing some paperwork - if the Bombers get nothing ...

Still no charges approaching twelve months!

There was movement at the station ...

Stephen Dank has 11 days to hand over documents about his supplement program to two former Cronulla Sharks players who are considering legal action

Relates to his association with Cronulla Sharks, but I would imagine that will set the scene for him in relation to Essendon as well.

Still no charges approaching twelve months!

It's not 12 months since ASADA started their enquiries. Interviews with Essendon players were in May/June. Given that even in the straightforward case of a positive test for a single athlete it can take up to a year, I don't know that I'd be reading anything into it.

But …. could be very messy if they started to bring in infraction notices once the season got under way, though equally, I don't know that that factors anywhere in ASADA's thinking.

There was movement at the station ...Stephen Dank has 11 days to hand over documents about his supplement program to two former Cronulla Sharks players who are considering legal action

... for the word had passed around that the colt from Canberra Raiders was going to get away ...

Sandor Earl could be free to play in weeks

Well, well, well ... there's been no hearing for Sandor Earle, the one and only player served with an infraction notice and provisionally suspended but possibly free to play very soon which is what happens when you co-operate and give the investigators further information that leads to infraction notices being served on others. Earl will get a remission of his sentence for spilling the beans (most likely 6 months) and a number of others including Dank will then have to face the music. Once the precedent is set, we might even find some Bombers deciding to co-operate with the investigation as well.

What a farce. Essendon and the players don't know what they took and the players are free to play. They should all be stood down from playing until the club can conclusively prove that the substances injected were not banned substances.

The interesting bit to me is: "The development is significant because Dank has resisted all interview requests by the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority and has threatened court action to ensure he never has to."

I though the assumption was ASADA had not contacted Dank for an intereview...

... for the word had passed around that the colt from Canberra Raiders was going to get away ...Sandor Earl could be free to play in weeks

Well, well, well ... there's been no hearing for Sandor Earle, the one and only player served with an infraction notice and provisionally suspended but possibly free to play very soon which is what happens when you co-operate and give the investigators further information that leads to infraction notices being served on others. Earl will get a remission of his sentence for spilling the beans (most likely 6 months) and a number of others including Dank will then have to face the music. Once the precedent is set, we might even find some Bombers deciding to co-operate with the investigation as well.

Looks like you were wrong about Bombers getting Infraction Notices on Australia Day, though to be fair, there are still 15 hours left in the day.

The interesting bit to me is: "The development is significant because Dank has resisted all interview requests by the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority and has threatened court action to ensure he never has to."

I though the assumption was ASADA had not contacted Dank for an intereview...

The question if he has been requested to give an interview and has refused is, why haven't ASADA acted on that refusal?

Looks like you were wrong about Bombers getting Infraction Notices on Australia Day, though to be fair, there are still 15 hours left in the day.

Which year though?

Looks like you were wrong about Bombers getting Infraction Notices on Australia Day, though to be fair, there are still 15 hours left in the day.

As the wise frog said above, I don't recall that I stated which year?

Be patient - all things must come.

The interesting bit to me is: "The development is significant because Dank has resisted all interview requests by the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority and has threatened court action to ensure he never has to."

I though the assumption was ASADA had not contacted Dank for an intereview...

No idea whether ASADA had requested an interview but always thought he would be last on their list so they had plenty of ammunition. I know these things take time but it's now bordering on ridiculous. The interview with players would have shed little light on anything. They would have reeled out the company line of "our medical team said it was alright", a medical team that consisted of Dr Reid who had nothing to do with the program, had serious concerns about the program, wrote emails to various key staff at the EFC about the program then decided to lock himself in a cupboard while it all went on. Drug testing is expensive so only certain things are targeted in tests, with the list of things thrown up as potential things taken, could be a safe bet some of them wouldn't have been tested for, plus most drugs are out of your system in days, hence no positive tests.

Time to cut the crap and break Danks plums to get the facts. Good on the Cronulla players for seeking the truth, however any player stupid enough to take part in systematic injecting program deserves to be rubbed out of the game. At Essendon when one player stood up and said no wouldn't you start to think...why, I don't remember getting injected as a junior, then I need to sign a contract to keep my trap shut about it. What ever the result this whole saga needs to be put to bed.

Looks like you were wrong about Bombers getting Infraction Notices on Australia Day, though to be fair, there are still 15 hours left in the day.

^^ 9 and counting

^^ 9 and counting

cant believe anybody would work on australia day and hand deliver INs to a person sitting on the beach with family,probably having thier last day off before footy season.

if anything it would be febuary2nd

where did this aussie day serving of INs rumour begin,primary school?

cant believe anybody would work on australia day and hand deliver INs to a person sitting on the beach with family,probably having thier last day off before footy season.

if anything it would be febuary2nd

where did this aussie day serving of INs rumour begin,primary school?

Don't think it was said to be "on Australia Day" but rather by it.

It's not 12 months since ASADA started their enquiries. Interviews with Essendon players were in May/June. Given that even in the straightforward case of a positive test for a single athlete it can take up to a year, I don't know that I'd be reading anything into it.

But …. could be very messy if they started to bring in infraction notices once the season got under way, though equally, I don't know that that factors anywhere in ASADA's thinking.

Fair point Bing. It's gonna get messy if infraction notes are issued at any time. And ASADA should move to the beat of it drums not others.

The AFL has a lot to answer over all of this. Having concluded it's so-called case against Essendon, taken them out of the finals, there's been a virtual cessation of interest on its part over the peptides regime. Let's face it, it's highly likely that someone from within the club knew exactly what the players have ingested into their bodies but does the AFL care?