Slartibartfast 18,111 Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 I agree with other posters about not wishing ill against Essendon players particularly in this thread where the focus really should be on the programme instituted by the Essendon Football Club and its servants and agents including Hird and Dank. They should not be allowed to get away with it, nor any player found to have benefitted by taking prohibited drugs. While I am strongly of the opinion that many of their players directly benefitted from their drugs regime (and possibly continue to do so to this very day as a result of its implementation in 2012) some of the comments above are plain stupid. If anything, the Bombers should be congratulated for their fine performance against the reigning premiers. If only, we could be so competitive against the same standard of opposition on a regular basis.Nice response. Deleting the post or more particularly the poster would have been much more appropriate IMO. Btw I've only just seen this totally appalling remark.
Whispering_Jack 31,365 Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 Nice response. Deleting the post or more particularly the poster would have been much more appropriate IMO. Btw I've only just seen this totally appalling remark. If there's a totally appalling remark that you'd like to see deleted (or want to complain about a poster), you can report it and the mods will look at it if you like.
Chelly 859 Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 I have to confess that I did swipe it from another site but it was too good an opportunity to pass up.
jazza 1,323 Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 13 days to go. then its pin the drug on the footballer day.
Whispering_Jack 31,365 Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 Not if the AFL has its way, I suspect. I may be reading it the wrong way but the AFL has done some strange things lately which seem to almost undermine the outcome of the ASADA investigation. There was the recent publication of a paper in a British journal based on the interim report from August last year and now this - AFL ushers in new drugs code, officially banning controversial drug AOD-9604. The AFL's new code seems calculated to serve as a support for the pro Essendon claim that these drugs were legal because their status was uncertain. By stating that AOD9604 is now banned, the AFL is giving credence to that argument because it was unnecessary to do so as WADA has already confirmed the S0 status of AOD. The AFL has lots of motives for wanting this to go away, not the least of which would be the impact on the competition if infraction notices were served on the players and clubs involved.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 Not if the AFL has its way, I suspect. I may be reading it the wrong way but the AFL has done some strange things lately which seem to almost undermine the outcome of the ASADA investigation.. Of course they want to. its been the mantra all along...i.e minimise the damage to their precious little competition. They wont win though
John Crow Batty 8,892 Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 The AFL are like parents with naughty children. If stern words fail, spank the children rather than send them off to reform school. Better to keep it all in the family.
hardtack 11,106 Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 "Thursday, April 10, looms as D-Day for the central figure in the most scandalous drugs probe in Australian sport, with the national anti-doping authority's ultimate decision-making body set to make a critical ruling on Stephen Dank." ASADA ruling on Dank looms
Satan 2,921 Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 looks like the club is in the clear with AFL re dank http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-demons-escape-afl-sanction-over-stephen-danks-role-at-club/story-fni5f91a-1226872780382 JT may still have to answer something with ASADA thou. still have not got an answer why the abc published melb player names and did not publish essendon player names,
SaberFang 7,151 Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 Could this looming cloud be having an impact on Trenners game? It's like he's been replaced with a shell of his former self.
sue 9,277 Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 Well he must be mentally weak then cos the Bomber players have been playing well While I doubt that it is affecting him, he may be feeling a bit lonely whereas at Essendon the heap of guys involved would support each other against the world.
John Crow Batty 8,892 Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 And Dunn has been a changed man since he has been linked to possible jiggery pokey
Bedraggled Dee 336 Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 Of course they want to. its been the mantra all along...i.e minimise the damage to their precious little competition. They wont win though Their precious little competition?? The AFL acted to protect your competition and did exactly what they are paid to do. Why is it a bad thing that the AFL acts in the best interest of the AFL competition? You should hope they do win. I want Hird out of the AFL and the EFC to cop their fair whack for doing what the did to the competition. if the players took baned substabces deserve whatever they get. IMO the AFL have attempted to punish those responsible while at the same time trying minimise the cost and damage the AFL as a whole. Surely thats what we want them to do even though they did not get everything right and made some errors during the process??
Redleg 42,147 Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 still have not got an answer why the abc published melb player names and did not publish essendon player names, That is an interesting point, considering the outrage by the Essendon people when their players' names were published.
Pink Freud 378 Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 That is an interesting point, considering the outrage by the Essendon people when their players' names were published. After the 2010 grand final there were reports that six players from each of the competing sides were tested and six from Collingwood were found to have high HGH levels while all of the St. Kilda players had normal levels. Nobody's names were ever published and the report went away.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 Their precious little competition?? The AFL acted to protect your competition and did exactly what they are paid to do. Why is it a bad thing that the AFL acts in the best interest of the AFL competition? You should hope they do win. I want Hird out of the AFL and the EFC to cop their fair whack for doing what the did to the competition. if the players took baned substabces deserve whatever they get. IMO the AFL have attempted to punish those responsible while at the same time trying minimise the cost and damage the AFL as a whole. Surely thats what we want them to do even though they did not get everything right and made some errors during the process?? no ones above the law.
Whispering_Jack 31,365 Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 no ones above the law. Don't kid yourself Bub. There are myriads of examples in society, even in our so called modern democratic society, of people who for one reason or another find themselves above the law - they just need a good lawyer, accountant or the right contacts. Same applies in the AFL where, over the years there have been plenty of examples of this - take tanking where the practice was widespread for most of the last decade but only one club investigated. Power, wealth and clout remain paramount in this competition where the stronger clubs get commercially beneficial programmes and the weaker get killer draws for which measly compensation is handed out like food at soup kitchens to clubs made to feel like beggars. This entire saga of the supplement has demonstrated how one club has wielded its power and how through the influence of friends in the media, in politics in other sporting groups and even now I've heard possibly in WADA, there is a lot happening in the background in an effort to sweep under the carpet what has been a flagrant and scandalous doping scandal carried out and conducted by one club that believes it really is above the law and is doing the best it can to get away with it.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 Don't kid yourself Bub. There are myriads of examples in society, even in our so called modern democratic society, of people who for one reason or another find themselves above the law - they just need a good lawyer, accountant or the right contacts. Same applies in the AFL where, over the years there have been plenty of examples of this - take tanking where the practice was widespread for most of the last decade but only one club investigated. Power, wealth and clout remain paramount in this competition where the stronger clubs get commercially beneficial programmes and the weaker get killer draws for which measly compensation is handed out like food at soup kitchens to clubs made to feel like beggars. This entire saga of the supplement has demonstrated how one club has wielded its power and how through the influence of friends in the media, in politics in other sporting groups and even now I've heard possibly in WADA, there is a lot happening in the background in an effort to sweep under the carpet what has been a flagrant and scandalous doping scandal carried out and conducted by one club that believes it really is above the law and is doing the best it can to get away with it. and that makes them above it ??? Not a bit...mean they got off. There is a difference
Return to Glory 8,518 Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 Well, haven't Asada taught them a lesson they wont forget. If they had have known what the outcome would be, I'm sure the Bombers would have brought on the horse steroids and hired Lance Armstrong's chemist. Same result really.
Whispering_Jack 31,365 Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 and that makes them above it ??? Not a bit...mean they got off. There is a difference How did they get off?
beelzebub 23,392 Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 Don't kid yourself Bub. There are myriads of examples in society, even in our so called modern democratic society, of people who for one reason or another find themselves above the law - they just need a good lawyer, accountant or the right contacts. Same applies in the AFL where, over the years there have been plenty of examples of this - take tanking where the practice was widespread for most of the last decade but only one club investigated. Power, wealth and clout remain paramount in this competition where the stronger clubs get commercially beneficial programmes and the weaker get killer draws for which measly compensation is handed out like food at soup kitchens to clubs made to feel like beggars. How did they get off... youve just written how !! or did I miss something ?
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