18 disposals 24 hit outs and 8 marks up against Mike Pyke and Shane Mumford.

Bye Bye Jamar..

PS: Please sign a new contract!

Totally agree.

Does more around the ground in one game than what Jamar gives us in a year.

Yep , he's definitely got Jamar covered, all he needs is a couple of decent rovers that read the play and our fortunes may change quickly.

Trademar Jamar.

Loved a couple of his intercepts. Like Fitzy is looking like he belongs

A long way to go for big Max, looks like he will get to run out the year now which is going to be great for his development. So much upside.

The great thing about Gawn is that he will pursue the ball after it spills and try to shepherd or tap to advantage.

It doesn't always come off but his endeavour cannot be faulted.

I'm a big Gawn fan, but his ruckwork needs a LOT of work.

Given his height, he does not get his hands on it enough in the ball ups, and realistically we are still better in the middle with Jamar. But, he has already shown more than many ruckman have at his age, and with practically no experience.

Could be one of the better rucks going around in a few years time.

We should trade Jamar.

I think Collingwood, Hawthorn and GWS would be interested.

Gawn is VERY impressive, considering he doesn't quite have the mature body yet, he has struggled on the boundary thrown ins because of this.

Next year Max will be bigger and better and from there, he should only improve, he has been deprived of football has young Max.

All the sudden Barry P is looking like a genius after today!

We should trade Jamar.

I think Collingwood, Hawthorn and GWS would be interested.

Hawthorn wouldn't. Bailey is better than Jamar so is Hale and they can have Roughy as a back up ruck if they just have one available. They have Ceglar, Grimley and others on the list.

GWS depends on if they get Bellchambers otherwise Jamar would be a back up to Giles how Brogan has been.

Collingwood it appears Jamar is on par with Hudson and Jolly. If either of those 2 go they might have some interest.

I think we want Gawn to be a very good ruck not just an average ruck. So I'd encourage the competition that keeping Spencer and Jamar provides. Not to mention with rucks you have to always have the depth and say at least 1 might be injured at any stage.

This is only the first time he's had a period as a starting ruck so it's great for him but it's also early days. This season for him is equal to the first or second season for a midfielder or running player.

Gawn is VERY impressive, considering he doesn't quite have the mature body yet, he has struggled on the boundary thrown ins because of this.

Next year Max will be bigger and better and from there, he should only improve, he has been deprived of football has young Max.

All the sudden Barry P is looking like a genius after today!

The talls he picked in Gawn, Fitzpatrick, Watts, McDonald and Davis weren't too bad. Shame him couldn't land a midfielder in a raft of high draft picks.

We should trade Jamar. I think Collingwood, Hawthorn and GWS would be interested.

Who do we get in return? I'd take Two of Savage Ellis or Hallahan

We should trade Jamar.

I think Collingwood, Hawthorn and GWS would be interested.

Hes on a massive contract with 2yrs to run, he's to big a risk for a smart club, were stuck with him.

Gawn was good around the ground but his centre square work is not great. Needs to do more even with our poverished midfield.

Hes on a massive contract with 2yrs to run, he's to big a risk for a smart club, were stuck with him.

He is a big risk for a smart club, but also, he is a big reward for a club with good midfielder beneath him.

For any side needing a ruckman to boast their chances of winning a flag, they could do worse than landing Jamar.

We should trade Jamar.

I think Collingwood, Hawthorn and GWS would be interested.

Melbourne won't trade Jamar. They made him a life member earlier this year.

GWS can afford him and they have young talented mids to trade.

He attacks the footy hard, often fluffs the disposal in close but it's a decision making not a skill issue for mine.

Could become a real weapon.

Jamar is effectively our ruck coach. Why would we trade him?

Jamar is effectively our ruck coach. Why would we trade him?

Because we would prefer a midfielder to a ruck coach.

We need to sign Gawn up pronto.

Ruck men as tall as he is and as good around the ground as he can be don't grow on trees.

His ruck work needs to continue to be refined, but I believe that the sky might be the limit for the big man.

Very exciting.

Just regarding ruck coaching. David Loats former cat use to be our ruck coach I think around the time when jamar got All Australian but apparently he was pretty [censored] off when Neeldy gave him the flick soon as came in.

Jamar is effectively our ruck coach. Why would we trade him?

I wouldn't be adverse to paying him for that role in 2015 instead of as a player. Surely if he had a 2014 similar to this year and Gawn and Spencer improved he'd realise his career wouldn't extend past 2015 anyway.

I'd honour the contract financially but free up a list spot.

Why on earth trade Jamar? We are one injury away from having Fitz as first ruck. FCS, we have been turfing club stalwarts like no ones business and now the calls are to turf another.

For all Jamar's lack of around the ground stats, he has a massive role to play. A mature body, leadership and ruck depth. His retention will also let us shop for a rookie / late pick to build some depth.

If only we had taken Hanneth.