Perfecto.

PLUS "JESSE HOGAN"

And you do?

Stop going around in circles you pill.

you nong. I don't know, but I'm not running around like a dill accusing people. If you don't like the way people put the rumours, then switch off & run along. its past your bedtime buddy.

you nong. I don't know, but I'm not running around like a dill accusing people. If you don't like the way people put the rumours, then switch off & run along. its past your bedtime buddy.

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If you put out stupid rumours that's what you get. Just because someone posts one, even if it makes no sense, doesn't make them instantly immune to criticism. The Shaw decision showed just how far off the mark he was. I have no idea why you are defending him.

Just out of curiosity if we were to land either Bernie Vince or David Myers with our 2nd live pick(20ish), who would be a greater acquisition to our club. I know Essendon have said said Myers is required players but I still feel he is gettable.

Personally I believe Myers because of his age and size but not much splitting the 2

Just out of curiosity if we were to land either Bernie Vince or David Myers with our 2nd live pick(20ish), who would be a greater acquisition to our club. I know Essendon have said said Myers is required players but I still feel he is gettable.

Personally I believe Myers because of his age and size but not much splitting the 2

Myers is younger and could be the better player, Vince is older ans is the better player.

Vince is what he is, Myers could be alot of things but isnt as much atm

Blah Blah.

If you put out stupid rumours that's what you get. Just because someone posts one, even if it makes no sense, doesn't make them instantly immune to criticism. The Shaw decision showed just how far off the mark he was. I have no idea why you are defending him.

what stupid criticism from stupid posters.. I'll give you a tip, the problem isn't with the posters, its with you. find something else to whinge about.

This is the worst thread I have ever seen

rumour threads are to Demonland posters, as Parliamentary privilege is to politicians.

Myers fits the age bracket but just having a functioning midfield would be helpful.

trades

2 for Shiel

22 for Vince

36 for Lyons

54 for Michie

delisted FA . Cross

add #21 Zac Jones #70 Joel Tippett #78 Clisby (rookie upgrade)

I'm similar Spirit but would change a couple, with a bit of luck needed

Trade

2 for Shiel

22 for Myers(1st preference) or Vince

54 for Michie

Delisted FA- Cross

Draft

21-Dunstan

36-Z.jones

70-Cain

78-upgrade Clisby

Possibility: Tapscott/Blease for Lyons and pick. Would rather hold on to both

how do you know? as of last night it may have been geelong & us?

maybe GWS just decided to up their ante`. or maybe we jumped off?

Well then in that case it was never between "Geelong & us", was it?

By the very definition of it being "Geelong & us" that excludes anyone else like GWS from even being able to up the ante and win his services.

And for that matter, it excludes us jumping off, unless it only left Geelong.

Otherwise the concept of "Geelong & us" is completely meaningless and not even worth saying.

At it is, it was all a poorly constructed made up rumour by someone who never had any chance of knowing.

*golf clap*

I'm similar Spirit but would change a couple, with a bit of luck needed

Trade

2 for Shiel

22 for Myers(1st preference) or Vince

54 for Michie

Delisted FA- Cross

Draft

21-Dunstan

36-Z.jones

70-Cain

78-upgrade Clisby

Possibility: Tapscott/Blease for Lyons and pick. Would rather hold on to both

Not sure about using pick 70, might be useful to save something for the PSD given we have pick 2. Could be someone fall through the cracks.

Not sure about using pick 70, might be useful to save something for the PSD given we have pick 2. Could be someone fall through the cracks.

Yer fair point. However as it stands we have 7 senior list spots available(pretty sure Hogan was on our senior list in 2013) not including if we trade out a jamar, Blease or Tapscott, so if we turn pick 70 into a 30-50"s pick through a trade I'd still like to see us give a Chris Cain or a Kane lambert a chance at AFL level.

Yer fair point. However as it stands we have 7 senior list spots available(pretty sure Hogan was on our senior list in 2013) not including if we trade out a jamar, Blease or Tapscott, so if we turn pick 70 into a 30-50"s pick through a trade I'd still like to see us give a Chris Cain or a Kane lambert a chance at AFL level.

Do we have any uncontracted players that may still get the chop? Maybe that seems like a silly question, but I don't pay much attention to the contract side of things.

Where is this second early twenties pick coming from? For Sylvia, i'm assuming? I highly doubt we'll get that.

Where is this second early twenties pick coming from? For Sylvia, i'm assuming? I highly doubt we'll get that.

we will get that easily

I would do pick 2 for Rohan if medicos gave hime the all clear.

Swans won't let him go, I think they know what they have.

So does Roos, so I'm pretty sure he will get the balance right.

Sen rumour:

Melbourne - in - Vince and Myers

Out - pick 2

Essendon - in - pick 2

Out - Crameri, Myers, pick 22

Adelaide - in - pick 22

Out - Vince

Bulldogs - in - Crameri

Out - pick 22

God I hope not. We would have just thrown away pick 2 if that were the case. No Essendon player is safe from enfraction notices, and if they get them they will be out for between 2 and 4 years. We will still be up for paying them (unless there is a specific clause in the contracts not to), but in any case, we will be down two players because we will not be able to replace them. Far, far too risky.

Oh, and by the way those same players will likely take legal action against Essendon and the AFL.

Do we REALLY want to be caught up in this?

Got to say Ron, I honestly think GWS don't have a cap. The AFL lets them go for whoever they want and funds them to do so. When it comes to the new franchise success, they use Messendon's motto, 'whatever it takes'.

Explain Buddy then. The Swans overbid them because they didn't want to pay over the top and they didn't want to put future negotiation out of whack. If you are right, neither of these thing would worry them. Indeed they would use them to their advantage and intimidate other clubs with it.

Alleged 700k a year for Shaw? What a waste of coin.

How's this idea? Let's throw big paper at Callan Ward.....surely he'd be a tad annoyed at the figures being touted?

This is the worst thread I have ever seen

You are a major contributor to making it that.

Heard it here first!

Yer fair point. However as it stands we have 7 senior list spots available(pretty sure Hogan was on our senior list in 2013) not including if we trade out a jamar, Blease or Tapscott, so if we turn pick 70 into a 30-50"s pick through a trade I'd still like to see us give a Chris Cain or a Kane lambert a chance at AFL level.

From memory, Adelaide and GC needed to free up list space to put O'Meara/Crouch on their lists at the end of last season. We will need to do the same for Hogan.

Where is this second early twenties pick coming from? For Sylvia, i'm assuming? I highly doubt we'll get that.

I think a few are in for a disappointment here also.

Where is this second early twenties pick coming from? For Sylvia, i'm assuming? I highly doubt we'll get that.

Where is it coming from?

Is that rhetorical?

I think he is Band 3 as Pearce and Chaplin before him.

Band 3 is the pick behind out 2nd round pick. About 24 when pushed out by other comp picks.

That is where it is coming from.

You can tell me it BS but don't tell me you don't know the logic.

The logic is sound, the answer awaits.

I can't help but think there is bigger things happening with Frawley..... If he does end up as part of a mega trade I hope we don't get shafted. If he doesn't get traded we'll know his further intentions soon enough if he mutters the words 'I'll make my decision at the end of the season'.