Demons to go cap in hand to AFL

[Grand New Flag 3,226]

Fresh off "The Australian" website.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/demons-to-go-cap-in-hand-to-afl/story-fnca0u4y-1226658960359

If you did not think we were in danger of becoming extinct, maybe this article will help you wake up and smell the coffee.

My solution:

1. Get rid of Neeld now. The cost of doing this now will be far less than the cost of not doing this.

2. Replace the board with Jeff Kennetts ticket.* (Assumes JK ticket of quality Melbourne Members and endorsed by PJ and AFL)

Outside of this happening, I fear the worst.

[What 18,810]

Zero chance the MFC folds.

[Moonshadow 16,200]

AFL to step in and run the club?

[Cards13 9,117]

How are we paying out the coaches contract? How are we paying for a new one who will possibly command a higher wage and higher wages from more established assistants?

What is Kennett's ticket, mandate and solutions for our current situation?

Edited June 7, 2013 by Cards13

[Grand New Flag 3,226]

AFL to step in and run the club?

Essentially that is what they are doing when asked Schwab to be replaced by Jackson. This was at the direction of the AFL after the board went to the AFL telling them of our demise after round 2.

[Pirlo 519]

Zero chance the MFC folds.

This attitude is the reason why Szondy and Gardiner got away with it all a decade ago. Wake up!

[Scipio 5,868]

Zero chance the MFC folds.

Fold no, but I actually think relocation is not impossible. We are pretty well in the [censored] at the moment.

[Grand New Flag 3,226]

How are we paying out the coaches contract? How are we paying for a new one who will possibly command a higher wage and higher wages from more established assistants?

What is Kennett's ticket, mandate and solutions for our current situation?

The cost to the club for complete on-field failure cannot be understated. Add to this the cost of losing players come season end and thus the likely continuation of on-field failure and you quickly can understand why it is more expensive to keep Neeld than dump Neeld.

Neeld was the boards choice. They are responsible for him. They must pay the ultimate price for their utter failure. Outside of Debt Demolition (which was the great man) this board has horribly failed. We are on our knees under their watch. They must go.

I agree we need to hear more about the Kennett push, but if done right.................. it genuinely excites me.

Edited June 7, 2013 by Grand New Flag

[Longsufferingnomore 1,463]

AFL to step in and run the club?

Be careful what you wish for Moonshadow.

As far as the article is concerned, written by the Club's two biggest supporters, the first provocative line is just typical of those two "journalists". In fact I would replace journalist with sensationalists.

[mjt 640]

The cost to the club for complete on-field failure cannot be understated. Add to this the cost of losing players come season end and thus the likely continuation of on-field failure and you quickly can understand why it is more expensive to keep his than dump him.

Neeld was the boards choice. They are responsible for him. They must pay the ultimate price for their utter failure. Outside of Debt Demolition (which was the great man) this board has utterly failed. We are on our knees under there watch. They must go.

I agree we need to hear more about the Kennett push, but if done right, if genuinely excited me.

Kennets just been endorsed by the AFL to throw his hat in the ring,these incompetent fools need to stand down immediately , time for change, it was only a few weeks back that Don said CS polarises the supporters, well sir it's time to look in the mirror.

[Sir Why You Little 34,490]

This should be the current Boards final act.

The begging must cease.

Show me who will run with Jeffrey or who has the Ox been talking to??

Change must happen as soon as mext week if wheels are rolling.

[felixdacat 459]

Fresh off "The Australia" website.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/demons-to-go-cap-in-hand-to-afl/story-fnca0u4y-1226658960359

If you did not think we were in danger of becoming extinct, maybe this article will help you wake up and smell the coffee.

My solution:

1. Get rid of Neeld now. The cost of doing this now will be far less than the cost of not doing this.

2. Replace the board with Jeff Kennetts ticket.* (Assumes JK ticket of quality Melbourne Members and endorsed by PJ and AFL)

Outside of this happening, I fear the worst.

I certainly smell something and it ain't coffee.

[Red N Blue Society 165]

Hi all,

The GF works for the AFL...she cannot elaborate due to confidentiality but says we are not going to go under thats for sure!

She has a chat with Emma Quayle too on a few occasions so seems to get the good oil here and there.

I dont follow Emmas status..BUt I assume she doesnt have it in for us like Caro...

I have heard its going to get messy with Mark Neeld Though....I hope not..we dont need more blood..

Cheers

[pm24 451]

Fresh off "The Australian" website.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/demons-to-go-cap-in-hand-to-afl/story-fnca0u4y-1226658960359

If you did not think we were in danger of becoming extinct, maybe this article will help you wake up and smell the coffee.

My solution:

1. Get rid of Neeld now. The cost of doing this now will be far less than the cost of not doing this.

2. Replace the board with Jeff Kennetts ticket.* (Assumes JK ticket of quality Melbourne Members and endorsed by PJ and AFL)

Outside of this happening, I fear the worst.

Seriously narrow thinking here. The board should go first, and I would in no way endorse a Jeff Kennett ticket. Remember, Kennett has commented multiple times that we should be moved to Tasmania or even merged with someone. You want this guy to run our club???

I'll trust in Peter Jackson to make the right decision regarding Neeld. I think he has already made one positive call, that is to restructure the football department structure first, then once all that is sorted out, then determine if Neeld is the right coach. Also, I pose the question that Garry Lyon posed on Footy Confidential earlier in the week. What happens if we win a few more games in the second half of the season? What happens if we beat other teams in similar list positions to us like Bulldogs, GWS, GC, Brisbane etc? What happens if the effort continues to improve and losing margins against good sides starts to drop???

What then??? Will everyone's opinion of Neeld still be that he can't coach BECAUSE he has only beaten the lesser teams.

With a healthy list, we are a chance to 4-5 games in the second half of the season. So what happens if we win 3 or 4 and finish with possibly a better win loss ratio than last year.

But wait......the sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!

Edited June 7, 2013 by pm24

[Grand New Flag 3,226]

Your support for Neeld is amazing.

Yes, the sky is indeed falling in on the MFC. Mark my words, our future is far from safe. How people still assume everything will just be alright is beyond me. Once we are insolvent, the AFL can do what it likes with us. We are close to insolvent.

[Sir Why You Little 34,490]

After mondays thumping the changes will start.

This board is dysfunctional. Has been since Jimmy went down.

I say that sadly but it is true.

Monday must be Don's last speech, you cannot keep going to the AFL asking for help.

WE Gave them $5 mill plus 6 years worth of funds.

WHERE IS IT NOW??

[pm24 451]

Your support for Neeld is amazing.

Yes, the sky is indeed falling in on the MFC. Mark my words, our future is far from safe. How people still assume everything will just be alright is beyond me. Once we are insolvent, the AFL can do what it likes with us. We are close to insolvent.

I'm just amazed that people are continuing with a view that sacking the Coach is the first thing that should happen when Jackson has already identified that the structure of the football department has serious problems, and we all know the board is just incompetent.

It's amazing what can happen with those issues are dealt with first.

My support for Neeld is not unwavering. If post the football department being sorted out and the board being fixed up, and the culture of the club being sorted out, we continue to lose by big margins to struggling teams (not ladder leaders and premiership contenders), then I will join the chorus for change regarding the coach.

The reason I stated that your view was narrow is because it completely disregards the other factors that have contributed to the lack of success for the club. Unless those things are fixed first, it is irresponsible to put all the blame on a coach working in an environment that is completely messed up.

I'm NOT saying that I think Neeld is not part of the problem. I'm saying that there are clearly other factors contributing to the failures of the club, and until those things are fixed it's too early to make a call on the coach. By the sound of things Peter Jackson is also thinking along these lines.

Edited June 7, 2013 by pm24

[bluey 890]

I'm just amazed that people are continuing with a view that sacking the Coach is the first thing that should happen when Jackson has already identified that the structure of the football department has serious problems, and we all know the board is just incompetent.

It's amazing what can happen with those issues are dealt with first.

My support for Neeld is not unwavering. If post the football department being sorted out and the board being fixed up, and the culture of the club being sorted out, we continue to lose by big margins to struggling teams (not ladder leaders and premiership contenders), then I will join the chorus for change regarding the coach.

The reason I stated that your view was narrow is because it completely disregards the other factors that have contributed to the lack of success for the club. Unless those things are fixed first, it is irresponsible to put all the blame on a coach working in an environment that is completely messed up.

I'm NOT saying that I think Neeld is not part of the problem. I'm saying that there are clearly other factors contributing to the failures of the club, and until those things are fixed it's too early to make a call on the coach. By the sound of things Peter Jackson is also thinking along these lines.

I would love to know how the structure of the football department is affecting players ability to compete, kick, run, mark etc. got me totally baffled.

[Pipefitter 2,016]

I think we have Become an unofficial expansion club. Hurts the pride a bit, and what little respect we have left from other clubs is going, but when we have been run so poorly for so long it's either this, or sink.

[Guest]

I agree with 66% of what you say GNF. I just want a ticket that doesn't involved JGK.

[mauriesy 6,802]

My solution:

1. Get rid of Neeld now. The cost of doing this now will be far less than the cost of not doing this.

2. Replace the board with Jeff Kennetts ticket.* (Assumes JK ticket of quality Melbourne Members and endorsed by PJ and AFL)

Aside from any issues with the FD, coach and the board, I wouldn't trust Jeff Kennett (especially his mouth) as far as I could throw him.

How about, for every problem, we stop latching onto the first option that comes up?

[Redleg 37,612]

Aside from any issues with the FD, coach and the board, I wouldn't trust Jeff Kennett (especially his mouth) as far as I could throw him.How about, for every problem, we stop latching onto the first option that comes up?

Stop posting common sense, it is not popular with some on here.

[pm24 451]

I would love to know how the structure of the football department is affecting players ability to compete, kick, run, mark etc. got me totally baffled.

This would have more to do with having an inexperienced list. They don't seem up to the pace of the AFL game yet, but it will come with time.

[mjt 640]

This would have more to do with having an inexperienced list. They don't seem up to the pace of the AFL game yet, but it will come with time.

So will old age.

[Sir Why You Little 34,490]

So will old age.

50th on Sunday...Whilst at school kids laughed at me for being a Demon in the 70s.

Now they laugh in sympathy, & we are told to be patient.

Why do our players not seem to be up to AFL standard?

Why should we accept this season after season??????????????????????????????