So Wines has been offered a two year extension on his contract, at 400k a year and not signed.

If we get a priority pick, we should trade one of our top picks to Port for Wines.. And give them a player too..

Wants to come back to Victoria, I'd be happy for this to happen..

I have a feeling he will resign with them unfortunately, would be about perfect if he and prestia decided they wanted to join us over the off season

come on Jack VIney get your best mate to the MFC!!!!!!!!!!!

come on Jack VIney get your best mate to the MFC!!!!!!!!!!!

He has 4-6 weeks off, get him on the phone haha

He's a loyal kid. I'd be really surprised if he didn't repay the faith port have shown in him.

As if he'd come us one season after we overlooked him in the draft. He will stay with port. They are at least on their way up.

You're dreaming.

So Wines has been offered a two year extension on his contract, at 400k a year and not signed.

If we get a priority pick, we should trade one of our top picks to Port for Wines.. And give them a player too..

Wants to come back to Victoria, I'd be happy for this to happen..

Got a link?

Bloke is a mad Carlton supporter. His old man told Wayne Hughes on the day of the draft that he'd be back in Vic within 2 years, wouldn't sign a contract extension and only wants to go to the Blues. His old man has been emailing the club during the season re-iterating this is still the case.

Doubt we'll ever see the bloke in a Melboure jumper.

I was reluctant to open this thread - I thought it would probably be from one of our "supporters" bemoaning the "fact" that we got the wrong guy, "again".

I will repeat, it is not possible to compare Wines playing in (what started the season as ) a strong team with a strong midfield, with Toumpass playing in a very very poor team with only one quality mid. Totally unfair and unreasonable to even try to compare the output of performances of the two, at this point.

But yes, it would be great if we could somehow lure him to MFC - of course winning a few games and playing with a bit of passion would be encouraging.

I think this is a lot like the people claiming that Hawthorn shouldn't have taken Hodge. It was probably the strongest top 3 ever seen in a draft that year and all three have had successful careers. Hodge may have taken a little longer to find his feet at AFL level than Judd, but nobody at Hawthorn would ever suggest that they should have gone the other way. I firmly believe that you have to wait until the end of their career to judge whether a player was a good selection. These two have barely started theirs.

Edit: Oh God, looking at our drafting back then. Luke Molan! Did he even play a game for us? The only one we got any use from was Miller at 55. Shocking drafting.

Toumpas will be a star. I'm not worried about him. At all.

Toumpas will be a star. I'm not worried about him. At all.

I am extremely worried at this stage!!

HAVE we got it wrong yet again!!

How could you not Draft an inside grunt on baller for a "Outside Reciever"

when out greatest need has been , inside grunt???

In fact I'll say this Oliver Wines is better than Jack Viney!!

BETTER!!

Our recruiting strategy so poor as per usual has netted what looks like a skillful player but point is...

Who is going to get it out to him to show what WHAT, he actually has got!

"Toumpas will be a star"????

Cheezus I bloody hope so!

BUT

Wines will win the rising star

AND

We do not have the luxury of the Neeld 5 year rebuild!

Anything else??

No question!

BUT

Wines will win the rising star

No question!

O'Meara will win the rising star comfortably, Wines may finish second, a distant second.

Now, G Smith, not sure if this question has been asked of you?

But given that "Hindsight" is a great thing

Who would you have drafted at No 4 ??

I am extremely worried at this stage!!

We HAVE got it wrong yet again!!

How could you not Draft an inside grunt on baller for a "Outside Reciever"

when out greatest need has been , inside grunt???

In fact I'll say this Oliver Wines is better than Jack Viney!!

BETTER!!

Our recruiting strategy so poor as per usual has netted what looks like a skillful player but point is...

Who is going to get it out to him to show what WHAT, he actually has got!

"Toumpas will be a star"????

Cheezus I bloody hope so!

BUT

Wines will win the rising star

AND

We do not have the luxury of the Neeld 5 year rebuild!

Anything else??

No question!

Our inside ball on the weekend was good without Viney who will be the future inside grunt you speak of. Our spread and skills are deplorable yet you cant see why we would take Toumpas. Wines has been better early but has petered off. Toumpas has not been as good as I expected early but will improve with games.I saw enough of him last year to know he is quality. I still think we have done the right thing. I am amazed I haven't found the "we should have taken Vlaustin thread yet".

AndrewvRaines came runner up in the rising star award. Some players hit the ground running, Brock did it for us when we first drafted him.

I am extremely worried at this stage!!

We HAVE got it wrong yet again!!

How could you not Draft an inside grunt on baller for a "Outside Reciever"

when out greatest need has been , inside grunt???

In fact I'll say this Oliver Wines is better than Jack Viney!!

BETTER!!

Our recruiting strategy so poor as per usual has netted what looks like a skillful player but point is...

Who is going to get it out to him to show what WHAT, he actually has got!

"Toumpas will be a star"????

Cheezus I bloody hope so!

BUT

Wines will win the rising star

AND

We do not have the luxury of the Neeld 5 year rebuild!

Anything else??

No question!

Mate, Ollie is good there is no question but i am pretty confident the ceiling for jack and jimmy is much higher, those two will be guns, ollie might only ever be what he is now, a solid hard at it mid

Toby Greene was great last year but less so this year; that happens with a lot of young kids and they take a couple of years to get back to their first year's form.

We used to call it second year blues.

So Wines has been offered a two year extension on his contract, at 400k a year and not signed.

If we get a priority pick, we should trade one of our top picks to Port for Wines.. And give them a player too..

Wants to come back to Victoria, I'd be happy for this to happen..

If true Absolutely...

I am extremely worried at this stage!!

We HAVE got it wrong yet again!!

How could you not Draft an inside grunt on baller for a "Outside Reciever"

when out greatest need has been , inside grunt???

In fact I'll say this Oliver Wines is better than Jack Viney!!

BETTER!!

Our recruiting strategy so poor as per usual has netted what looks like a skillful player but point is...

Who is going to get it out to him to show what WHAT, he actually has got!

"Toumpas will be a star"????

Cheezus I bloody hope so!

BUT

Wines will win the rising star

AND

We do not have the luxury of the Neeld 5 year rebuild!

Anything else??

No question!

actually we need a Cameron Ling type run with mid, big body...

I hoping for Taggert to be an inside magnet.

... immediately, we need a gun Leader, like yesterday... I'd go after Sam Mitchell free agency, & offer him $M1.8 over 3Yrs, front ended... $800, $650, $350,

I would've thought about Stringer from the dogs if you wanted inside midfielder. When he gets fit enough he will be an absolute beast, make you ask Ollie who?

I would've thought about Stringer from the dogs if you wanted inside midfielder. When he gets fit enough he will be an absolute beast, make you ask Ollie who?

Me too, very similar player to Ricciuto. Strong, quick, forward/mid, goal kicker. Much better player than Wines and was the steal of the draft.

Viney wanted to play for Melbourne

Wines wanted to play with his best mate Jack Viney

Melbourne made another BAD draft decision.

Gysberts, Cook, Morton, Bate, Maric and some more yet to be finalised.

come on Jack VIney get your best mate to the MFC!!!!!!!!!!!

It'll probably be the other way around if both teams performances stay on course..

Viney wanted to play for Melbourne

Wines wanted to play with his best mate Jack Viney

Melbourne made another BAD draft decision.

Gysberts, Cook, Morton, Bate, Maric and some more yet to be finalised.

But didn't someone say earlier that Wines wants to play for Carlton and nobody but Carlton? I'm confused, which informed opinion do I believe?

A tad early to judge Fence but I'm comfortable with Jimmy fttb.

Ollie is a talented lad though.

Now, G Smith, not sure if this question has been asked of you?

But given that "Hindsight" is a great thing

Who would you have drafted at No 4 ??