Time for the broom to sweep clean, the only one we should have kept was Jimmy Mac........

Davey is definitely gone. Is a pea heart and and has been down for a while. Green is struggling to hold his place. Moloney just came of an B&F season and was heavily tagged. No excuse for today but it gives him time. No ruck tap outs didn't help.

Are they still crying for getting kicked out of the leadership group...

Don't cry for too much longer because your careers are coming to a quick end

I don't think being in or out of the leadership group would have changed the way they played. I'm glad they are out.

This season is going to be a circus with our senior players running around with huge chips on their shoulders. Today of all days was when they needed to step up, and they point blank refused.

No Brent Moloney means that Trengove, Magner or Jones get tagged. We would not benefit from that at all. Davey is worthless as a player and Brad Green is simply not quick enough to apply any pressure or lead effectively and not tall enough to provide a realistic marking target. Joel Macdonald is also a liability in defence.

If anyone thinks these guys would have played BETTER if they were still in the leadership group, then you obviously don't recall their poor performances last year.

Edited March 31, 201213 yr by Chook

Sas but it aint about being left out of the leadership group - its about their leadership. period.

Then Neeld should do what voss did last year. Play the kids and the likes of Davey and Green can play the year out at Casey. Today proved that there is a long way for us to go before we can even be competative. Bloody disgraceful.

It was obvious to most last year that Green was on his last legs.

Wouldn't be surprised if he retires during the season. He's done.

Moloney's fine, only played one poor game recently. Premature judgement. Davey's played two poor years, showed nothing today and has lost his run. Get rid of him. Green has had one bad year recently and showed nothing today. He better get on with it fast.

Someone wake me when Viney is playing.

Edited March 31, 201213 yr by Bluelegs

Moloney's fine, only played one poor game recently. Premature judgement. Davey's played two poor years, showed nothing today and has lost his run. Get rid of him. Green has had one bad year recently and showed nothing today. He better get on with it fast.

Someone wake me when Viney is playing.

Moloney can't handle a tag, he just doesn't work hard enough B&F or not, just not good enough over the last few years.

Davey doesn't put his body on the line when he has to which I could handle if he still had the turn of speed but he's lost that so he's a goner.

Green is border line. Probably on his last legs but I'd play him for the first half of this year to find out for sure.

Moloney is an integral part of our side and as has been stated, takes a tagger away from other mids.

Davey doesn't put his body on the line when he has to which I could handle if he still had the turn of speed but he's lost that so he's a goner.

Green is border line. Probably on his last legs but I'd play him for the first half of this year to find out for sure.

Moloney is an integral part of our side and as has been stated, takes a tagger away from other mids.

You need to do more than attract a tagger and after a while the tagger won't be there anymore. Besides it's time for the others to learn how to deal with a tagger and they are not getting a good example. Brisbane get a lesson every game from Black, it is an unfair comparison I know as Black is one of the greats of the game.

You need to do more than attract a tagger and after a while the tagger won't be there anymore. Besides it's time for the others to learn how to deal with a tagger and they are not getting a good example. Brisbane get a lesson every game from Black, it is an unfair comparison I know as Black is one of the greats of the game.

Totally agree with you rjay and Moloney, though he certainly wasn't able to shake the tag today, has done in the past and shouldn't be considered expendable, one game into the season. He has enough credit up to get another crack next week.

Throw Davey into the middle. He's still slick enough to evade tacklers and his pace as an outside player is badly needed. Anyone who can carry the ball 4 or 5 steps to compose and deliver is much better than the outside mids we have now. Jones and Magner can go in and get it and Davey can run off with it.

Green seems to be unable to keep his feet after EVERY contest. Even with minimal contact he goes to ground. We are then 1 player down in the ensuing fight to gain possession. He has NO follow up from a contest.

Moloney can have a weekend beating up on VFL boys as far as I'm concerned. We have nowhere else for him to play to try and get him into the game. He's basically a follower or nothing. I'll take the latter next week. Give someone else a go.

This was the most pathetic effort that I have attended knowing the background to this game.Many changes needed as they are just weak b's.

Claye Beams tagged Moloney. Possesions: Beams 25, Moloney 12. A hard tag? i dont think so.

He's (Davey) still slick enough to evade tacklers

He certainly is slick at avoiding front on confrontation.

Claye Beams tagged Moloney. Possesions: Beams 25, Moloney 12. A hard tag? i dont think so.

Thrashed by a no name. Says a lot doesn't it.

Beamer loves the Demons i have spoken with him about it. But he doesn't like or understand real hard work.

Jack Watts was great in yhe first half.

He certainly is slick at avoiding front on confrontation.

And if he's scared of being hurt he'd be great as an outside mid-fielder by running away.

Green and Davey... put a fork in them. Sad. Two great demons. But they're done.

Davey doesn't put his body on the line when he has to which I could handle if he still had the turn of speed but he's lost that so he's a goner.

Green is border line. Probably on his last legs but I'd play him for the first half of this year to find out for sure.

Moloney is an integral part of our side and as has been stated, takes a tagger away from other mids.

+1

Claye Beams tagged Moloney. Possesions: Beams 25, Moloney 12. A hard tag? i dont think so.

ping embarrrassing

Green - dropped. Sorry Brad, not acceptable today.

Davey - plays nest week. Forward pressure was good, but need to involve himself more (possession wise).

Moloney - have been saying since the Gold Coast/NAB Cup game that he has looked slow. Was prepared to forgive due to the monsoon, but ticked the same box agaisnt Collingowwd and Hawthorn, as well as the real deal today. Kills me to say it but you are not in our best 21 at the moment, and need to go to Casey. Slow, slow, SLOW.

Moloney lost me today. Hasn't fired a shot all pre season and today he couldn't care less. Disgraceful.

Have a sook.

The other 2, well it's obvious the skills + drive are no longer there. Thanks for your service, step aside.