Petterd abused

[beelzebub 22,259]

it wasnt the female goal umpire being spoken to. Some clearly dont understand distinctions.

[Mac7 309]

Have you guys ever been on a football field before?

Its not your standard football field.

If I’m playing on Saturday and someone tells me they are going to rape my mum, I punch them in the face and an all in brawl follows. End of situation.

This happens in AFL and there are fines, suspensions, unhappy sponsors, unhappy members, an unhappy board, media reports followed by an investigation etc.

These blokes are not down the local club anymore, they professional athletes, competing in a multi-million dollar highly professional environment. What was said was unacceptable in the AFL and the punishment deserved.

If you don't like it head down to your local ground and be as derogatory as you like, be warned though, you might end up with a sore face.

[Guest Guy Rigoni]

tad disappointed in Ricky at the moment, shouldn't have singled out McGinnity like he did. Not a good look for Ricky or the club at the moment.

As for the suspension, what a [censored] joke. I'm sure every team would have players that say that sort of stuff every week. Heck i'm sure i've said stuff worse then that on the field and to my mates in regular conversation.

[rpfc 27,590]

it wasnt the female goal umpire being spoken to. Some clearly dont understand distinctions.

I understand distinctions, BB.

What I am saying is that there is a reason that derogatory language toward women is now outlawed. And it isn't just because 47% of AFL fans are women.

I believe that claiming to rape someone close to the player is beyond sledging, and it's a distinction I would make in the rules.

[rpfc 27,590]

tad disappointed in Ricky at the moment, shouldn't have singled out McGinnity like he did. Not a good look for Ricky or the club at the moment.

If McGininity is allowed to claim a desire to rape Ricky's mother in the heat of the moment, surely Ricky is allowed to answer a question from an umpire truthfully in the heat of the moment?

[H_T 2,941]

tad disappointed in Ricky at the moment, shouldn't have singled out McGinnity like he did. Not a good look for Ricky or the club at the moment.

Didn't the umpire bring it to the attention of the AFL ?

I dare say it's not a good look for McGinnity and the Eagles, rather than Ricky and the Demons.

[The Jacks 0]

Its not your standard football field.

If I’m playing on Saturday and someone tells me they are going to rape my mum, I punch them in the face and an all in brawl follows. End of situation.

This happens in AFL and there are fines, suspensions, unhappy sponsors, unhappy members, an unhappy board, media reports followed by an investigation etc.

These blokes are not down the local club anymore, they professional athletes, competing in a multi-million dollar highly professional environment. What was said was unacceptable in the AFL and the punishment deserved.

If you don't like it head down to your local ground and be as derogatory as you like, be warned though, you might end up with a sore face.

It is, mate. Anyone who thinks this is anything more than a game is kidding themselves. I love footy and the MFC as much as anyone else on here, but seriously, the AFL are the moral police?

I do play amateur and don't say things like that. I do come out with the odd sledge and definitely stand up for myself and teammates when I need to. But if someone says something like this to me I do not punch them in the face. I laugh and show them that calling me names or trying to put me off my game won't work. Sure, there will be a time and a place to get some revenge, but I'd rather help my team win the game and hang [censored] on the player later.

Ricky looked like a little kid on Sunday complaining because "he called me a name and it wasn't fare, you should get him in trouble, then I'll feel better"

[beelzebub 22,259]

I understand distinctions, BB.

What I am saying is that there is a reason that derogatory language toward women is now outlawed. And it isn't just because 47% of AFL fans are women.

I believe that claiming to rape someone close to the player is beyond sledging, and it's a distinction I would make in the rules.

your talking about one thing.,...

and yet it was another that occured..

i;e Distinction

Nothing was said to a woman.

People are now trying to drag inferences and differing circumstances to validate stances which in reality have none.

What is...is that Mcginninty is an idiot..everyones got that bit right.

[rpfc 27,590]

your talking about one thing.,...

and yet it was another that occured..

i;e Distinction

Nothing was said to a woman.

People are now trying to drag inferences and differing circumstances to validate stances which in reality have none.

What is...is that Mcginninty is an idiot..everyones got that bit right.

Trying to respect women, that is what this is all about.

This is why he has got a week.

The lesson here is try not to bring in sexual assault of loved ones into the sledging of a player...

[The Chazz 4,077]

I keep saying it, but when the AFL has specific educational programs to promote the correct way to treat women, and a player clearly does the opposite to what they are being told to do, then what is the issue? The league's name is mud when there are cases like Milne & Montagna, Andrew Lovett, even the St Kilda School Girl incidents, so as a result, they have programs in place to try and ensure it doesn't tarnish the brand.

It also has nothing to do with political correctness, over-policing of the AFL, people being too precious, Victoria being a nanna state, sledging to put your opponent off, IT IS ABOUT RESPECT. To say it once is moronic, disrespectful and totally inappropriate in any situation or scenario, but the fact that this bloke said it twice, TWICE!!!

And Guy Rigoni - you're sure every team would have players that say that stuff every week? Are you really sure that would be the case? Really? Let's be serious now. Go and have a chat with Mark Jamar, tell him you think it's acceptable to say that on a footy field and see if he agrees.

[rpfc 27,590]

Ricky looked like a little kid on Sunday complaining because "he called me a name and it wasn't fare, you should get him in trouble, then I'll feel better"

How is threatening to rape your mother 'calling you a name'?

And I will ask for the third time - how can McGinnity be allowed to threaten to rape a loved one in the heat of the moment, but Ricky shouldn't be allowed to answer a question from an umpire truthfully in the heat of the moment?

[The Jacks 0]

How is threatening to rape your mother 'calling you a name'?

And I will ask for the third time - how can McGinnity be allowed to threaten to rape a loved one in the heat of the moment, but Ricky shouldn't be allowed to answer a question from an umpire truthfully in the heat of the moment?

I don't understand the question? Maybe phrase it in another way and I will try to answer it.

In the meantime, I have a question:

How is directly threatening to travel interstate to kill someone (the person you are speaking to) any more or less of a big deal than threatening to rape someone's mother (the mother of the person you are speaking to)?

[Steamin Demon 370]

Would love to know what these posters think of the situation now;

Dalrot

DemonDing

The Jacks

B59

The Buzz

Golly

Captain Jack

Steamin Demon

Twist

Fork 'em

Exactly the same as before. Thanks. How is the recruitment drive for the PC police going?

[Steamin Demon 370]

I hope everyone on here is going to lambast Ricky for his threat to kill McGinnity and anyone else the follows the majority opinion. Isn't murder a worse crime than rape? Grandstanders please show yourself. Billy??

[beelzebub 22,259]

Would love to know what these posters think of the situation now;

Dalrot

DemonDing

The Jacks

B59

The Buzz

Golly

Captain Jack

Steamin Demon

Twist

Fork 'em

lol..

By this stance I assume youre laying clain to some infered high moral ground ?

The argument..or shall we say discussion is centered ( or ought to be ) on the contextual nature and direction this sledge was laid.

No one here would < i supect support the vilificatoin of women , nor of any particualr group. I supect also that no one here would ordinarily advocate that rape or any other heinous crime.

I doubt any would support the threatening of lives either.

But its not actually about that.

No woman was spoken to, no person was directly threatened , except ironically enough McGinnity. It was all chest puffing..name calling .. In your head stuff. And it didnt even really work.

Unless Im wrong.. even the AFL who is a card carrying PC member didnt suspend the player.. or attempt to.

McGinnity obvoiouslyy isnt the sharpest tool in the shed., and dare i say it his comments were blunt, but it was a pure exercise in neanderthal gamesmanship....One he failed in.

thats about it

[rpfc 27,590]

I don't understand the question? Maybe phrase it in another way and I will try to answer it.

That question is for those that are saying that the worst thing in all of this is Ricky talking to the umpire. Including yourself who said:

Ricky looked like a little kid on Sunday complaining because "he called me a name and it wasn't fare, you should get him in trouble, then I'll feel better"

If Patrick can threaten rape in the heat of the moment, why can't Ricky answer a question form an umpire truthfully in the heat of the moment?

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Its not your standard football field.

If I’m playing on Saturday and someone tells me they are going to rape my mum, I punch them in the face and an all in brawl follows. End of situation.

This happens in AFL and there are fines, suspensions, unhappy sponsors, unhappy members, an unhappy board, media reports followed by an investigation etc.

These blokes are not down the local club anymore, they professional athletes, competing in a multi-million dollar highly professional environment. What was said was unacceptable in the AFL and the punishment deserved.

If you don't like it head down to your local ground and be as derogatory as you like, be warned though, you might end up with a sore face.

You know as little on the local football scene. An all in brawl is never the end of situation.

What McGinnity said is inappropriate at any level.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

No woman was spoken to, no person was directly threatened , except ironically enough McGinnity. It was all chest puffing..name calling .. In your head stuff. And it didnt even really work.

Unless Im wrong.. even the AFL who is a card carrying PC member didnt suspend the player.. or attempt to.

You often miss the point Bub on a range of issues but on this one you're sadly missing the point big time. Your first paragraph is cringeworthy...yuk.

And did you think it is possible the AFL might have directed WCE to take action?? Hmmm

[Dees Win 1]

I coach an U14 team, and one of our players was threatened by his opponent a month or so ago. His opponent threatened to stab him after the game.

I do not regard any form of threat as "sledging". A threat of violence is one of the places where the line should be drawn.

This incident with Petterd and McGinnity is of the same ilk. He has threatened violence to Petterd's mother. Inappropriate conduct. Investigation and penalties warranted.

Sledging needs to keep clear of violence in any form.

Cheers

[old55 21,419]

lol..

at least you've got a consistent absence of principles.

[e25 5]

I think the comments in this thread speak volumes for certain posters character and common decency, or lack thereof.

[Guest The Tweed Pig]

I coach an U14 team, and one of our players was threatened by his opponent a month or so ago. His opponent threatened to stab him after the game.

Cheers

That's a very different situation and context to Petterd and McGinitty.

Cheers

Edited August 17, 2011 by The Tweed Pig

[dee-luded 2,958]

I went through 12 years of school with a disability so i can vouch for getting a tough time....I just think society needs to Harden up. But that is my opinion.

As a kid if i came off my bike in the street and cut my knee i would ride home, get a Band Aid and some Mychurecrome?? (That Red Stuff!!) and get back on my bike.

Now if the same thing happens the council gets sued for a dangerous piece of Pavement...!!!

A comment was made on the footy field...Get on the phone & apologize...I think that is enough.

Harden Up? You must be Joking! We've been getting soft for the last 25 years.

If something like that was said 50 years ago, the whole side would have been into him, "Cleaning Him Up"., good & proper.

In the '70's, we started down this depraved path, & thought it funny. Not realising just how far things would stretch.

If he said it to me I would have Tony Lockett'd, him.

The game has gotten soft, that we can't 'clean up' these types anymore.

Edited August 17, 2011 by dee-luded

[waikikkamukau 62]

A bit dis-appointing Petterds pointed out MgGinnity to the umpire IMO.

I had 1st thought the umpire had overheard it, but the vision shows Ricky making a big deal out of it.

Andy Maher said on SEN this morning that the umpire and another WCE player heard the remark and he got it from Sam Lane that the remark was "I'll take your mum back to West Coast and r_pe her" Now I have never heard a funny joke or a sledge about someone being raped. as far as I'm concerned this sort of comment has no place on the football field or society.

An A grade sledge is that of Steve Johnson when he asked Campbell Brown cash or credit?

[Mac7 309]

You know as little on the local football scene. An all in brawl is never the end of situation.

What McGinnity said is inappropriate at any level.

Well smart arse I think I may know something about it since I've been playing in it for the past 20 years.

Please tell me where I have said that what he said is appropriate?