Why are we worried about getting Viney? We've got the third pick, we take the best available. If he's not it at 3 and GC or GWS pay over for him that's great isn't it?

Because we have been so good in picking the best available over the last 5 years!!

Reality is two years running we may get screwed by an expansion club .... At least we do get an opportunity to grab JV still. But never the less this year we need to get as much talent in possible. Not just talent the right talent !

It would be an indictment to on the MFC to allow us to be yet again bullied by the new commers. We deserve our pick ... 3, 4, 13 because JV should be rightfully ours there after. This shouldn't be an issue, I reall hope JV tells the suns and gws he is Melbourne

Fair enough.. i agree.

But not all were presented with an award for the 'best player'..

Sheehan reserved that for the best player over the ten matches, that deserved an extra highlight..

on a show that is there to do just that.

..and this year it was Wines.

Having them both, him and viney as really good mates, on the team would be awesome and id expect an indigenous type connection between them..

I've been pumping up Toumpas a bit but wouldn't be disappointed to pick up Wines if that's how the cards fell.

Was just watching the Day 2 combine video on the club website, at 4 minutes in the background theres a GC recruiter having a laugh with some of the Melbourne guys. Good signs or am I reading too much into it?

Actually, i dont log in that much, so when i pop in to see the latest when i can, its easier to spot where i left off last in a particular thread..

If you click the 'star' next to the thread it will take you to the last post that you read.

Because we have been so good in picking the best available over the last 5 years!!

Reality is two years running we may get screwed by an expansion club .... At least we do get an opportunity to grab JV still. But never the less this year we need to get as much talent in possible. Not just talent the right talent !

It would be an indictment to on the MFC to allow us to be yet again bullied by the new commers. We deserve our pick ... 3, 4, 13 because JV should be rightfully ours there after. This shouldn't be an issue, I reall hope JV tells the suns and gws he is Melbourne

I don't know about this concept of us being terrible at chosing the right talent. There is always some level of concensus across the board on draft days. Surely, our lack of success is more significantly influenced by other areas, for example, our development of players within the club?

What I find most interesting about this whole saga is the commitment made to JV before MN came on board. I think having him photographed wearing demons gear etc., a year or 2 before we know where he's going to play, seems rather unprofessional and laid our cards out on the table in an antagonistic manner. I would love to see JV at Melbourne but I would be slightly sceptical about our process if he were picked at no.3. The fact that his name is Viney and we have made a semi-commitment shouldn't influence who we pick at 3.

Whitfield, Grundy, Toumpas are 3 ahead of Viney.

You could argue Wines, but he's about on par.

If GC bid, they get Viney and we get Grundy and Toumpas - excellent result for us with 3 and 4.

Then look foward to our mid round pick, hopefully Garlett/Wines/Stringer/Kennedy - one of these should be there.

Then we a pick in the 20's and hopefully can gain another pick in the 20's through trading.

We should have a good draft, Viney is just a small part of our draft outcome.

I just hope we take a stand if GC bid and show that we have a bit of back bone.

Others disagree and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

The reason why I dont think GC will bid, is because they will think that in two years time, we will still be down near the bottom of the ladder and we could get Viney through a PSD in the future and they could lose him for nothing.

The risk of taking him at 2 is massive for them.

I don't know about this concept of us being terrible at chosing the right talent. There is always some level of concensus across the board on draft days. Surely, our lack of success is more significantly influenced by other areas, for example, our development of players within the club?

What I find most interesting about this whole saga is the commitment made to JV before MN came on board. I think having him photographed wearing demons gear etc., a year or 2 before we know where he's going to play, seems rather unprofessional and laid our cards out on the table in an antagonistic manner. I would love to see JV at Melbourne but I would be slightly sceptical about our process if he were picked at no.3. The fact that his name is Viney and we have made a semi-commitment shouldn't influence who we pick at 3.

Go to the MFC sight and listen to what Sheehan has to say about Viney. There was nothing wrong in promoting Jack as a Melbourne player because at that time the old rules of father/son drafting probably applied. Little did we know that Suns and now Silvagni is now saying that GWS will look at Viney. Again we get shafted. Why do the "rules" change when we just seem to have something going in our favour.

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You see thats helpful, you can be nice.

But ive kinda grown attached to ma tahoma after all these years.

I'll make sure i post like this, whenever im posting in your threads or responding to your posts though..

Then everyones Bexed..

I've been pumping up Toumpas a bit but wouldn't be disappointed to pick up Wines if that's how the cards fell.

Jimmy Toumpas - you dont want to put pressure on the kids, but its easier to use a past player instead of listing a dozen different qualities to say how you feel about them..

and boy does this kid remind me of Andrew McLeod screaming thru the middle of the ground.. and skills!.. ridiculous.

He has a weird gait, but that'll be sorted soon enough.

Then theres Grundy.. he's just nipping at everyones heels for mine.. come along in leaps and bounds (literally) imo this year..

If the cards fell our way Toumpas would go 2 as you would expect, leaving us Wines, Grundy, and Viney 2nd round.. that would be my preference.

If not, Toumpas and Wines for me and hopefully a stringer or mayes might fall to 14.. if we dont trade it.. and i'll regard GCS in the same vein as i do the filth.

If anyone is doubting not taking viney with pick 3 just read the article on Hun website he has been preparing for this for years

If anyone is doubting not taking viney with pick 3 just read the article on Hun website he has been preparing for this for years

And the other one saying that he'll make us pay if we don't select him...

there's no doubt that we'll select him. Whether that is at pick 3 or pick 27ish is not up to us and is out of our hands.

there's no doubt that we'll select him. Whether that is at pick 3 or pick 27ish is not up to us and is out of our hands.

Agree. I'm looking forward to Monday so that all of this debate can finally be put to rest.

What would upset people more, selecting viney at 3 and someone we could have selected turns out better or letting viney go and have him turn out the better player I know which one would hurt me more

This article I like...

Jack Viney driven towards AFL destiny

This one? Makes me a bit more ... nervous

Jack Viney says Melbourne will only get one chance to secure him and he will make them pay if they don't

We will not be passing on Viney! We hope to get him as a 2nd rounder but will take him at pick 3 if we have too.

If we decide too pass on him, the MFC will deconstruct in 10 seconds!!!

how i would like it too work out;

Pick 3 - Brodie Grundy

Pick 4 & a player - Trade too GWS for MD Jack Martin

Pick 13 - best available. I dont want Caddy! Prefer another quick run & carry mid.

Pick 26 - Jack Viney

In the end, I will be very happy if we land Viney & Grundy! They will set the tone for this footy club!

We will not be passing on Viney! We hope to get him as a 2nd rounder but will take him at pick 3 if we have too.

If we decide too pass on him, the MFC will deconstruct in 10 seconds!!!

how i would like it too work out;

Pick 3 - Brodie Grundy

Pick 4 & a player - Trade too GWS for MD Jack Martin

Pick 13 - best available. I dont want Caddy! Prefer another quick run & carry mid.

Pick 26 - Jack Viney

In the end, I will be very happy if we land Viney & Grundy! They will set the tone for this footy club!

Pressure might have just gone off pick 3 for Jack a whisker if reports on Adelaide wanting the highest price for Tippett are true. Could it be GCS please cough up pick 2 time? Hope so.

The only reason we are having this discussion about whether he is a top 3/4 pick or a 5 to 8 pick is because we did so badly in 2012. If we had won a few more games we wouldn't have picks 3 & 4, they would be in the 5 to 8 range! So the discussion is rather futile really.

Lets just get him, whatever it takes!

I can't wait til Monday is done, we have taken him pick 3 and he becomes a great for the MFC.

Viney will be the best pick up Melb has made in the last 10 years .... you just watch.

As Emma Quayle tweeted "future captain".

So pick 3 - no sweat.

Oh Yeah like Scully was and Watts

Oh Yeah like Scully was and Watts

No, the way Selwood is.

MFC supporters have get over the fact that not everything is designed to kick them in the groin and that sometimes good things fall in their lap.

This is an 'rpfc gaurantee' - you will love Jack Viney.

Who is to say that our pick 23 will not turn out better then pick 3? Obviously it would have been great to have pick 3 and use 23 on Viney but let's face it our low draft picks in recent years havnt been a raging success and I keep banging on about player development. If we do not develop these kids it doesn't matter where they are drafted. I like many get caught up in what draft picks we have because it's been the only real significant part of the MFC in recent years but tbh I'm over draft picks. I just want kids who want to play afl and give it everything they have without coasting by on junior talent. Jack Viney is worth more to us then any other club if we use pick 3 so be it he has the potential to be one of the best in the draft and one of the better players we have recruited in years.

FFS just take him at 3! We have committed 5 years to him in 2010 so I have no doubt we will take him then! This was always going to happen but look on the bright side, with Viney Wellingham Dawes Byrnes and whoever we take at 4 then its a great recruitment year for the dees.

There seems to be a lot of posturing going on by everyone involved. Fortunately, we'll all know in a few day's time.

Put his head up on the banner now

There seems to be a lot of posturing going on by everyone involved. Fortunately, we'll all know in a few day's time.

WJ, have you heard anything about what will happen with JV