Yeh, MFC would be in disaster mode, imagine Smooth trying to sell us some other bloke instead of Todd's boy, who may have joined Gold Coast, if they rated him as number two, will never happen, if it does, well I will walk after 60 years, and would never look back, unlike Lot's wife with no regrets.

The whole intent of the father/son rule is to enable sons to get to the clubs where their fathers played without costing that club 'overs' to get them there.

when you posted that here

http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/31559-jack-viney-a-sun/page__st__800#entry642078

you were corrected in that the new FS system is actually designed to make it so clubs don't get 'unders' with their FS. IN the old system we would have him in round 3 which is the absurd outcome the rule was changed for. Viney for 3 is fair, if we get him at 26 it is massive 'unders' for us.

We need Viney and Toumpas together.

mmmm well 1 more sleep eh ! im pretty sure it will all go good for us , they wont bid is what im saying ,

No we need Viney and Wines together. Wines is a friend of Viney's, a Melbourne supporter and a very talented footballer. Toumpas can go to a SA club where he will be happy!

We need Viney/Toumpas, Viney/Wines, Viney/Hogan or similar

not Viney/ Dawes FFS

Edit: Pick 3 & 4 that is

I'm really happy with Viney/Dawes with Pick 26 & 30 something

Edited October 7, 201213 yr by Roger Mellie

Would GC not think that, should Viney go in the second round, one of our other early picks will be available for trade. Given they are probably going to need multiple clubs involved in the Caddy deal, perhaps it would benefit them to leave those pick active. They may end up trading for one of those picks.

Eg. McIntosh and Gysberts to Geelong

Caddy to North

Pick 13 and North 1st round pick to GC

Pederson and something from GC to Melbourne

Example only. But if we use 3 on Viney surely we're less likely to trade with picks before the second round.

I guess what I am asking is what do GC get from bidding on Viney, unless they genuinely want him. The winner if we take him at three is the other clubs with selections directly behind us. They effectively move up one place.

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Viney for 3 is fair, if we get him at 26 it is massive 'unders' for us.

Daniher to the dons for pick 10 is massive unders; Tom Mitchell to swans last year for pick 21 is massive unders. Viney is a mid/lower-mid round one pick; getting him at pick 26 is no more unders than these 2. The new system was to stop an Ablett going to the cats for a round 3 pick. So be it.

Ed: spelling

Edited October 7, 201213 yr by Mono

when you posted that here

http://demonland.com...800#entry642078

you were corrected in that the new FS system is actually designed to make it so clubs don't get 'unders' with their FS. IN the old system we would have him in round 3 which is the absurd outcome the rule was changed for. Viney for 3 is fair, if we get him at 26 it is massive 'unders' for us.

Sorry, it's hard to keep up with these threads much of the time.

If Viney's rated top 5 to 7 in the draft (which he appears to be), and we are forced to use pick 3 on him in circumstances where the club before us doesn't actually rate him the pick 2 but nonetheless nominates him at that pick essentially to stuff us up, I don't think that is paying 'unders' for a father/son selection.

That said, I sincerely hope we do use pick 3 on him if that occurs. However, there is no way we're paying 'unders' in using pick 3 on a father/son selection here.

If GC have a top ten pick lined up in exchange for Caddy, North Melbourne perhaps, then they will surely nominate Viney. If not, then perhaps they are better off letting him go for the possibility of getting the Dees involved in the Caddy deal.

If GC have a top ten pick lined up in exchange for Caddy, North Melbourne perhaps, then they will surely nominate Viney. If not, then perhaps they are better off letting him go for the possibility of getting the Dees involved in the Caddy deal.

General, thats what its all going to come down to in the end, isnt it

If GC have a top ten pick lined up in exchange for Caddy, North Melbourne perhaps, then they will surely nominate Viney. If not, then perhaps they are better off letting him go for the possibility of getting the Dees involved in the Caddy deal.

Its been noted in a few places that Caddy won't consider the MFC.

Ed: don't know how true this is. And North only have pick 14 at the moment.

Edited October 7, 201213 yr by Mono

How the **** has this got to 108 pages??? I gave up at 23 pages this morning it was around 43 pages now it's at 108??? I don't even want to imagine how much back and forth there has been over something that is a non-issue. Crazy way to spend a Sunday afternoon.

How the **** has this got to 108 pages??? I gave up at 23 pages this morning it was around 43 pages now it's at 108??? I don't even want to imagine how much back and forth there has been over something that is a non-issue. Crazy way to spend a Sunday afternoon.

Pretty sure its been merged with other long Viney threads. Such as 'Viney a sun?' thread.

How the **** has this got to 108 pages??? I gave up at 23 pages this morning it was around 43 pages now it's at 108??? I don't even want to imagine how much back and forth there has been over something that is a non-issue. Crazy way to spend a Sunday afternoon.

I think The Jack Viney thread and Jack Viney a Sun? thread got merged into a Demonland super merged extravaganza multi funzone super time thread.

Just read all 108 pages, and I think, correct me if I'm wrong here, GC may bid pick 2 on Viney, if they do, we'll have to use pick 3 to draft him. Well worth the 108 page read.

Pretty sure its been merged with other long Viney threads. Such as 'Viney a sun?' thread.

Ahh OK that makes more sense, thought Demonland had gone crazy...

GC are a bunch of pricks if they bid for JV tomorrow, and I hope that he spend his entire career smashing their players each and every time we play them.

Talk about going against the spirit in which the Father-Son rule is intended. It's not as if we are such a great team that another gun player will bring us an immediate premiership.

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GC are a bunch of pricks if they bid for JV tomorrow, and I hope that he spend his entire career smashing their players each and every time we play them.

Talk about going against the spirit in which the Father-Son rule is intended. It's not as if we are such a great team that another gun player will bring us an immediate premiership.

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Liked and lol'd

No seriously Jaded, your thoughts ! Lmao

The dream

Pick 3 - Grundy

Pick 4 - wines

Pick 13 - garlett

Pick 26 - Viney

Dawes for Martin

3rd round - Peterson

Morton - Stevens

Petterd - weller (GC)

Remaining draft picks to cover small forward/defenders

With pace, bit of magic would be nice

I have heard from impeccable sources exactly how GWS and GCS's will bid on JT

I'll double check my sources and get back to y'all late tomorrow morning

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/147651/default.aspx

A group of AFL recruiters rate him from Pick 6-8

Was it really necessary to merge all the Viney threads? Lost my place in th thread and have to trawl through 100+ pages to find it on my phone. Thanks for that

JT?

Can we get someone in the trading department call the suns and see if we can interview a couple of their star midfield players, maybe ask how long Garry has on his contract, just in case they consider nominating viney as their first pick?

Relax guys. He is coming thru to the second round. A deal has been orchestrated. Caddy to dees for pick 4