WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - JACK VINEY

[olisik 4,060]

A simple media conferance to say "we arnt sure if we are taking him yet due to a few issues" could work wonders. Vague, inconclusive yet effective. Front page of newspaper worthy im the week leading up to the bidding session.

[Guest José Mourinho]

A simple media conferance to say "we arnt sure if we are taking him yet due to a few issues" could work wonders. Vague, inconclusive yet effective. Front page of newspaper worthy im the week leading up to the bidding session.

WTF?

Except the fact we have to nominate him to be able to select him as a father-son selection.

Thereby revealing our hand - that we do want to take him.

And if we're unsure, why would we be investing so many resources in him?

Why do we already have him tied to a contract?

It will not fool anyone.

edit: In fact, it would do the opposite.

It would show how keen we are to take him, because we are going to desperate measures trying to hide our desire so we can get him cheaper.

It'd cause derision of our football department and their inept tactics.

Edited May 3, 2012 by José Mourinho

[Bossdog 2,002]

A simple media conferance to say "we arnt sure if we are taking him yet due to a few issues" could work wonders. Vague, inconclusive yet effective. Front page of newspaper worthy im the week leading up to the bidding session.

We have already informed the AFL we will. I don't know what paperwork is involved but I'm sure we have lodged it

[olisik 4,060]

WTF?

Except the fact we have to nominate him to be able to select him as a father-son selection.

Thereby revealing our hand - that we do want to take him.

And if we're unsure, why would we be investing so many resources in him?

Why do we already have him tied to a contract?

It will not fool anyone.

edit: In fact, it would do the opposite.

It would show how keen we are to take him, because we are going to desperate measures trying to hide our desire so we can get him cheaper.

It'd cause derision of our football department and their inept tactics.

We nominate, then put doubt that we not sure if his worth our first rounder, then we bid for him (Either with first or 2nd rounder, depending on how effective the doubt was and how much the teams are wililng to risk to gain 1 pick higher for a 2nd rounder)

[Nasher 33,607]

A simple media conferance to say "we arnt sure if we are taking him yet due to a few issues" could work wonders. Vague, inconclusive yet effective. Front page of newspaper worthy im the week leading up to the bidding session.

You obviously think other clubs are very, very, very stupid. FFS, if it's _painfully_ obvious to you, me and every member of Demonland that we intend to take Viney, I expect the other clubs recruiting staff who live, eat and breathe this stuff _may_ have noticed.

[olisik 4,060]

We have already informed the AFL we will. I don't know what paperwork is involved but I'm sure we have lodged it

We have informed the AFL that we will nominate him as a F/S, we havn't informed the AFL on what pick we are willing to use. Thats the whole purpose of the bidding session.

[olisik 4,060]

You obviously think other clubs are very, very, very stupid.

A: It ll stack up and make them question whether 1 pick higher in a 2nd round is worth the risk

B: We lose absolutely nothing by raising doubt

Footy is about 1%'ers, so why not do one off the field

[DeeDay 0]

I think there is no doubt the club would be thinking of ways to get him with 2nd round pick, just as a measure, it would be in their best interests to explore all opportunities even if they don't come to fruition. I would be disappointed if they weren't. However, there has been so much media hype etc. that the hands are tied and there isn't too much they can do about it.

Whatever the case, I'm looking forward to see JV play, hopefully he does well in Casey.

[Bossdog 2,002]

So GWS an GC have nothing to lose by nominating him???? Just that they make us take him with an earlier pick

[olisik 4,060]

So GWS an GC have nothing to lose by nominating him???? Just that they make us take him with an earlier pick

Why would GWS take the risk of losing a #1 draft pick in a super draft?

How would you feel if MFC decided to bid on Daniher with there pick #3 (If Viney wasnt nominated) if Daniher was only worth a pick #8 just to bring our 2nd rounder forward by one place?

I would be thinking 'Why the f@#k did we just do that and not leave it to another team to do?', and if no team did do it i wouldnt care. pick 27 instead of pick 26, big sh#t.

We have nominated him and said we want him as F/s, yes!, we havnt showed any intention that we intend on paying overs for him.

[bing181 9,117]

We have informed the AFL that we will nominate him as a F/S, we havn't informed the AFL on what pick we are willing to use. Thats the whole purpose of the bidding session.

No it's not. We don't bid at all, we only nominate him as F/S. It's the other clubs that bid (or not). We then just have to match those bids to get him. If there are no bids on a nominated F/S player, he's automatically taken by the nominating club with the last pick in the draft.

Once he's nominated F/S, we have no choices and no say in the matter. All we can do is match bids, not match bids or take him last pick if there are no bids.

Edited May 3, 2012 by bing181

[olisik 4,060]

No it's not. We don't bid at all, we only nominate him as F/S. It's the other clubs that bid (or not). We then just have to match those bids to get him. If there are no bids on a nominated F/S player, he's automatically taken by the nominating club with the last pick in the draft.

Once he's nominated F/S, we have no choices and no say in the matter. All we can do is match bids, not match bids or take him last pick if there are no bids.

Saying what pick we are willing to use and saying match bid/not match bid is the same thing....

and its not even matching the bid anyway, its using our next pick if u want to be that technical about it.

Edited May 3, 2012 by olisik

[rpfc 28,079]

Olisik - you have put forward the only way we will not take him with our first pick in the draft - a deal with GWS.

There is no press conference that we could construct that would instill doubt that we will take him.

It is just not going to happen - unless we work out deals with all clubs below us, we will be taking Jack with our first pick.

[olisik 4,060]

I suppose i would be happy with Viney, Dangerfield, Stringer and a 17 yr old outa this.

I can only see us ending up with 3 of the 4 sadly

[olisik 4,060]

I suppose i would be happy with Viney, Dangerfield, Stringer and a 17 yr old outa this.

I can only see us ending up with 3 of the 4 sadly

then this guy in 2 years

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/adelaide-oval-holds-great-expectations-for-billy-stretch/story-e6frecj3-1226049455565

[Guest Dr Who]

Great news another small step in his development - wish all draftees got the same opportunity - but I suppose you cant change history.

[Nascent 8,773]

then this guy in 2 years

http://www.adelaiden...3-1226049455565

From memory there was talk of another potential father/son who is supposed to be a decent player, Healy's kid maybe...? Does anyone have more info?

[jabberwocky 2,301]

Billy stretch

[Guest Dr Who]

A: It ll stack up and make them question whether 1 pick higher in a 2nd round is worth the risk

B: We lose absolutely nothing by raising doubt

Footy is about 1%'ers, so why not do one off the field

You read tooooooooo many newspapers but you are a very funny guy - there is NO doubt.

[olisik 4,060]

You read tooooooooo many newspapers but you are a very funny guy - there is NO doubt.

Whats that got to do with the topic on hand?

Please stick to discussing Viney...

[mordja 187]

We better put you on suicide watch come draft day Olisik. You're quite obviously not going to be happy.

[olisik 4,060]

We better put you on suicide watch come draft day Olisik. You're quite obviously not going to be happy.

Ill have to start a thread blaming Watts

[Nascent 8,773]

Billy stretch

Not sure if that was directed at me but there was another one besides Billy Stretch... supposed to be a good prospect too. May have just been wishful demonland talk though.

[Dr. Mubutu 784]

You've gotta love the optimism on this board, already predicting a bottom three finish.

There are still 17 games to play.......

[BIG JIM 508]

You've gotta love the optimism on this board, already predicting a bottom three finish.

There are still 17 games to play.......

Thats true and who knows we could just win the next 10 games. Dont like the chances but would be great and i think Neeld will turn a corner quicker then some think. Mark neeld is going to be a legend of the red and blue one day. Lets get behind Mark and the club because after all we all share one thing in common we love the MFC. I sometime's say silly things after games but im sure we will make it under Mark neelds watch. I cant wait to see viney jnr dont worry what pick we use on him it's that talk of tanking and not winning that got us a dud by the name of scully lets get a winning culture and never quit attitude the rest will fall into place. The first 4 weeks have been hard but after i saw the saints game i now see we are building a team that will win more and never be called soft again. That is what we all want a team thats strong and never ever quits. GO YOU MIGHTY DEMONS