Dean Bailey on SEN

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,809]

Dean Bailey is about to be interviewed by KB on 1116 SEN radio. I t might be worth a listen.

[Red Sox 2]

Good interview.....mentioned Luke Tapscott (amongst others) after KB asked him if Luke would have time to play seniors this year. Bails said, 'he might', that he would have to work hard and play some pretty good football to get a game.

Hope to see him

[No16 1]

Well I am pretty sure that Tapscott has worked hard since coming back from injury as he is playing Casey Seniors so.... CHECK

Play some pretty good Footy? Named in the best for the last couple of weeks..... CHECK

Could get a game in the near future

[Hannabal 4]

Nothing to be gleaned other than he basically intimated what we all know, in that Trengove will come into the side this week.

[e25 5]

Hard to say when we're pushing for the 8 and Trengove, Moloney, Bate, Warnock et al are not in the team.

(yes, I know they don't all play the same role or position...)

[titan_uranus 25,043]

Not a lot in that interview, but like Hannabal said I think it's now close to certain that Trengove will be back this week.

With Tapscott, he said what he had to say, which is that if he plays well he'll come under consideration. At the moment, as he said, we have a lot of players doing well at Casey, and I'd say that, in no particular order, Trengove, Moloney, Maric, Warnock, Bate and Cheney are all ahead of Tapscott in the pecking order.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Warnock, Cheney and Bate arent competing with Tapscott for a role. And their chances of selection may have no bearing on who gets selected. And the pecking order for Maric could completely change within one week of Casey footballer.

Trengove looks a monty for this week. Beamer has missed 2 to 3 weeks and may come back through Casey for fitness.

[Nasher 33,617]

Not a lot in that interview, but like Hannabal said I think it's now close to certain that Trengove will be back this week.

I haven't heard the interview, but that was already a lock for me anyway. It was lunacy that he ever played in the VFL.

[titan_uranus 25,043]

Warnock, Cheney and Bate arent competing with Tapscott for a role. And their chances of selection may have no bearing on who gets selected. And the pecking order for Maric could completely change within one week of Casey footballer.

Was McDonald competing with Maric for a role?

The point is, whilst Tapscott is starting to find his feet at VFL, and quickly, we still have a bevy of players at Casey who are performing just as well, if not better. There is still competition for spots, even if the players don't play the exact same orle.

[hardtack 10,627]

Was McDonald competing with Maric for a role?

The point is, whilst Tapscott is starting to find his feet at VFL, and quickly, we still have a bevy of players at Casey who are performing just as well, if not better. There is still competition for spots, even if the players don't play the exact same orle.

I tend to disagree. I would have thought that if we lose another game before round 22 and we are no longer in finals contention, then Bailey will give Tapscott a run. It would be an invaluable for him. I would also expect to see Fitzpatrick get a run.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

The point is, whilst Tapscott is starting to find his feet at VFL, and quickly, we still have a bevy of players at Casey who are performing just as well, if not better. There is still competition for spots, even if the players don't play the exact same orle.

But half of your pecking order is not playing for Tapscott's potential role. And the selection of one or more of Cheney, Warnock and Bate may not have any bearing on Tapscott's opportunities. The pecking order is a bit of a misnomer excluding Beamer and Trengove.

I tend to disagree. I would have thought that if we lose another game before round 22 and we are no longer in finals contention, then Bailey will give Tapscott a run. It would be an invaluable for him. I would also expect to see Fitzpatrick get a run.

Maybe for Tapscott but Fitzpatrick you're dreaming.

[hardtack 10,627]

you're dreaming.

You probably would have said the same if 4 weeks ago I had said I thought we were in a position where we could possibly be playing finals football this year ;-) Nothing wrong with dreaming.

[Hannabal 4]

It was lunacy that he ever played in the VFL.

That's what I thought. He did ease my mind somewhat by explaining that Trengove had a saw hip flexor and had completed only two training sessions after missing two weeks of football, which is why they gave him a run at Casey first. It made sense.

As for Tapscott ? Bailey mentioned his great kicking, physically mature build and that he's a "real in and under" player. I doubt he's competing with Bate or Maric. I see him as a robust high half forward/midfielder.

[H_T 3,049]

That's what I thought. He did ease my mind somewhat by explaining that Trengove had a saw hip flexor and had completed only two training sessions after missing two weeks of football, which is why they gave him a run at Casey first. It made sense.

Fair enough then.

As for Tapscott ? Bailey mentioned his great kicking, physically mature build and that he's a "real in and under" player. I doubt he's competing with Bate or Maric. I see him as a robust high half forward/midfielder.

Competing with the likes of Sylvia, Dunn types ? (High half forward/midfield type...)

[No16 1]

I am getting the feeling that Tapscott will bring something new to the team. I am pretty sure that we do not currently possess nor have for a while of a player with his types of playing qualities and attributes. Maybe a young Colin Sylvia when he played predominately forward?

[Disco Demons 92]

anything about blease or strauss?

[e25 5]

Didn't hear the interview, but Strauss has only just returned from injury.

Blease still playing Casey 2s.

[The Chazz 4,077]

I haven't heard the interview, but that was already a lock for me anyway. It was lunacy that he ever played in the VFL.

Ah Nasher, you and I always seem to disagree.

Let's go back to before the Lions game. We made the change that had to happen (McDonald in, unlucky for Maric), who else would you have left out for Trengove?

What you really are struggling to come to terms with is the fact that Trengove is a first year player. Regardless of how mature his body is, he is still a kid, and he had not played football for 3 weeks. It is common knowledge that the pace of the AFL is far superior than the VFL, so why would you throw this kid in and battle his way through 4 quarters, as opposed to what they did and got him to play around 80% of confidence-building football.

With the amount of rotations in the AFL, and given Jack's role in that, it would have been lunacy playing him in the seniors. You can get away with playing that style of game at Casey (where players are expected to play less than 100%), but in the AFL, you need all of your players in a position that they can play 100% of the game at 100% effort. I think it would have been unfair to expect JT to do this. As it turned out, he played as good as we expected him to at Casey, and will be right to go this week. Also, we won without him, so it was a great decision by the Club - I think you need to suck it up and move on.

JT will be a star for Melbourne for a long, long time. Why push him in his first year? List and injury management is vital with the development of these kids, as well as the senior guys (ie James McDonald).

[beelzebub 23,383]

I for one would lime to see him get a game (Tap) but it's really more an indulgent curiosity than a necessity. Might be more likely if the maths doesn't provide for an8th finish

[hoopla 418]

I tend to disagree. I would have thought that if we lose another game before round 22 and we are no longer in finals contention, then Bailey will give Tapscott a run. It would be an invaluable for him. I would also expect to see Fitzpatrick get a run.

We will still be in contention if we lose a game before Round 22.The other contenders have tough draws. Our game against North in Round 22 will be a battle for 8th spot -- if we can win 2 of our next 3.

[Inner Demon 1]

What you really are struggling to come to terms with is the fact that Trengove is a first year player. Regardless of how mature his body is, he is still a kid, and he had not played football for 3 weeks. It is common knowledge that the pace of the AFL is far superior than the VFL, so why would you throw this kid in and battle his way through 4 quarters, as opposed to what they did and got him to play around 80% of confidence-building football.

With the amount of rotations in the AFL, and given Jack's role in that, it would have been lunacy playing him in the seniors. You can get away with playing that style of game at Casey (where players are expected to play less than 100%), but in the AFL, you need all of your players in a position that they can play 100% of the game at 100% effort. I think it would have been unfair to expect JT to do this.

100% game time??? Nobody, except occasionally a full back, ever plays 100% game time. Especially not midfielders.

Trengove has played 82% game time (quite high for a midfielder actually) in his games this year.

[Inner Demon 1]

I for one would lime to see him get a game (Tap) but it's really more an indulgent curiosity than a necessity. Might be more likely if the maths doesn't provide for an8th finish

I tend to agree. Our finals hopes also hinge on the performances of the teams currently above us, so it's not just a matter of us winning games.

If we are no longer mathematically able to make finals, that would seem like the right time to throw a player like Tapscott who is playing well at Casey in for token games.

Although, with Tapscott is there any minimum number of games he has to get to to be eligible for VFL finals?? Or is it a maximum threshold of AFL games that disqualifies players from VFL finals?? My point being I would like to see Tapscott playing VFL finals with the other young kids, great to have those guys playing footy together at any level.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Trengove has played 82% game time (quite high for a midfielder actually) in his games this year.

He is also apparently one of the fittest players on the list.

If he is fit to play, I can see no reason why you would not play him especially at this time of the year. What an education for a young player playing for honours at the business end of the season.

[The Chazz 4,077]

100% game time??? Nobody, except occasionally a full back, ever plays 100% game time. Especially not midfielders.

Trengove has played 82% game time (quite high for a midfielder actually) in his games this year.

Doesn't mean that they will play it, but players that are 100% fit would hacve the capacity to play 100% if erquired. Trengove wouldn't have been in that category.

[The Chazz 4,077]

He is also apparently one of the fittest players on the list.

If he is fit to play, I can see no reason why you would not play him especially at this time of the year. What an education for a young player playing for honours at the business end of the season.

I personally think the Football Dept made the right call, and if I were in that position, I would have made the same decision. Would even consider Moloney coming back through Casey this week, although he is a better chance of coming straight back in due to the fact he is a lot more seasoned.