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It seems very likely that Miller will not play another game for the Dees...

Dunn, watts, Morton and probably newton are all ahead if him.

Thanks for your service to the club in both good and bad times...

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I actually could see him as a very attractive pick up for a team such as the Gold Coast, he would provide them with a decent hit up and wouldn't cost them much. Also a team like GC really needs a good leader and that is what Miller is, someone who will just try his guts out. I also think that the move would do him so good, might reshake his career a little bit.

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I actually could see him as a very attractive pick up for a team such as the Gold Coast, he would provide them with a decent hit up and wouldn't cost them much. Also a team like GC really needs a good leader and that is what Miller is, someone who will just try his guts out. I also think that the move would do him so good, might reshake his career a little bit.

Great sales pitch..send that one up to Bluey. I reckon we can suck 'em in

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If Clayton was looking at our list trying to decide who to poach, Miller is one of the last he'd look at.

Sad for him but true.

He's the guy you'd take if there's nothing else left, because at least he might show a bit of leadership to the kids.

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I actually could see him as a very attractive pick up for a team such as the Gold Coast, he would provide them with a decent hit up and wouldn't cost them much. Also a team like GC really needs a good leader and that is what Miller is, someone who will just try his guts out. I also think that the move would do him so good, might reshake his career a little bit.

With all due respect, I don't think GC17 will fall for that one.

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with gold coast struggling to sign players they will have to make a hard attack at the lower value players.

so i think miller could be a chance to go. if he can relive his early career form gc would be rapt

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I don't think GC will have to 'poach' Miller for him to go up there. They will know full well we have no intention of re-signing him and they needn't waste their 'bullet' in poaching him from our list in the event there is another player they have interest in securing.

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It seems very likely that Miller will not play another game for the Dees...

Dunn, watts, Morton and probably newton are all ahead if him.

Thanks for your service to the club in both good and bad times...

I don't agree with that. Dunn is preferred, but not exactly in favour at the moment. Watts is playing only his first for the year, all it would take would be a few weeks of average footy and he'd be dropped again. Morton would be ahead, but not necessarily playing forward, and even if he does he wouldn't play the sam role as Miller, as he's about the same size as one of Miller's thighs. Newton isn't ahead of him. I'm ahead of Newton.

I was actually surprised he wasn't brought up this week. Don't get me wrong, I love that Jack is playing, but Miller is a senior player with plenty of experience. If there's a clutch game in a small venue against a tough opponent (Sydney at SCG, maybe? something like that...) then he would get a look in. Like Jack al he'd need to do is put in a good run in the VFL.

Don't get me wrong, I find it hard to fit him in our best 22... but in a full season your best 22 are almost never going to play together for very long. Form/injury/soreness all play a factor, and as the season wears on Miller's strengths will outweigh his weaknesses eventually.


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Like Jack al he'd need to do is put in a good run in the VFL.

I don't really agree. If making finals in 2010 was our primary objective then yes, but bigger picture, play a developing kid before Miller.

I would have loved to have seen Miller make it. I made plenty of excuses for why he wasn't cutting it - EG Daniher moving him forward and back and not letting him settle into his "natural" position (which for me was CHF - plenty will disagree)etc etc. At the end of it all, I think he's just one of football's conundrums; plenty of talent but unable to fully execute it.

I don't think GC will want him for that reason.

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The GFC will take Pettard, and i think its not such a bad thing... He seems injury prone, although i admit he has shown a bit this year...

Our best forward line should read:

Bate / Jurrah / Green

Wona / Watts / Bennell

Lots of forward pressure, a big strong leading forward, 2 big left footers ont he flanks and LJ to throw in some freak action as he seems to do...

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The GFC will take Pettard, and i think its not such a bad thing... He seems injury prone, although i admit he has shown a bit this year...

The Geelong Football Club will sign Petterd? I would have thought GCFC were most likely to sign him?

Sorry, that was a cheap shot but couldn't resist.

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The GFC will take Pettard, and i think its not such a bad thing... He seems injury prone, although i admit he has shown a bit this year...

Our best forward line should read:

Bate / Jurrah / Green

Wona / Watts / Bennell

Lots of forward pressure, a big strong leading forward, 2 big left footers ont he flanks and LJ to throw in some freak action as he seems to do...

PettErd injury prone??? The guy has been very unlucky on two occasions (collapsed lung and now dislocated shoulder). It is not as if he is suffering from chronic hamstring injuries or a shoulder that pops out every other day...and yes, I do realise he had shoulder issues two weeks running, but I am inclined to think that the first injury (hyper-extension?) probably made the second more likely.

We should be trying our hardest to get his signature asap.

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I would suggest that it is Bate who holds Millers position in the team at the moment, strong lead/mark, with either a handball to a runner or turn and long kick into forward line. Watts may play a similar role with more focus on receiving marks from midfield after turning and running back towards goal. Both Bate and Watts are better shots on goal which to my mind is Millers main fault. I'd suggest he could resurrect his career by moving to the backline (i.e tarrant)... Sad to see any MFC player struggling.

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The GFC will take Pettard, and i think its not such a bad thing... He seems injury prone, although i admit he has shown a bit this year...

Our best forward line should read:

Bate / Jurrah / Green

Wona / Watts / Bennell

Lots of forward pressure, a big strong leading forward, 2 big left footers ont he flanks and LJ to throw in some freak action as he seems to do...

Gee bit rough on Colin

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Gee bit rough on Colin

Personally, I see Colin as a midfielder, who can pinch hit forward. He's generally tough over the ball, beautiful kick, good decision maker etc. Rest him up forward, but don't regularly start him forward, IMO. He certainly has an ability to play forward for an entire game, but with the forward depth that we've arguably built (none of them can get out on the park together though), he's a midfielder for mine. When Tapscott comes on and Morton, there will be a real competition for spots. We're starting to see it already.

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Personally, I see Colin as a midfielder, who can pinch hit forward. He's generally tough over the ball, beautiful kick, good decision maker etc. Rest him up forward, but don't regularly start him forward, IMO. He certainly has an ability to play forward for an entire game, but with the forward depth that we've arguably built (none of them can get out on the park together though), he's a midfielder for mine. When Tapscott comes on and Morton, there will be a real competition for spots. We're starting to see it already.

I would say its the other way around, a half forward that certainly goes ok in the midfield. Colin is too dangerous around the goals and a good grab, playing him as a midfielder would be a waste IMO.

Either way its good that we have options.

FWIW - I would be trying to get Ricky's signature, we lack depth on the forward line (taking aside that we have some young talent that may, or may not, develop), i would be trying to cover our largest deficiency.

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Unfortunately the end in close, we still have a guy named Liam Jurrah to come into our forward line. Don't be supprised if Hawthorn are looking at Miller, they are in desperate need of Key Defenders.

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Unfortunately the end in close, we still have a guy named Liam Jurrah to come into our forward line. Don't be supprised if Hawthorn are looking at Miller, they are in desperate need of Key Defenders.

Id be highly surprised if someone wasnt having a look at Miller. If they've been to Casey they will know that he isnt a complete hack but would understand why he isnt getting a game for us.

The question is will we get any value? The other clubs would be well aware that we are unlikely to resign him (and you have to wonder if he would even want to). Brad's manager MUST be trying to shop him around to Hawks or GC as its the best option to lengthen his career, but why on earth would they give us anything for him? just wait until he's delisted....


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If Clayton was looking at our list trying to decide who to poach, Miller is one of the last he'd look at.

Sad for him but true.

He's the guy you'd take if there's nothing else left, because at least he might show a bit of leadership to the kids.

I disagree with you on this one. Miller would be valuable to a young developing team like the gold coast because he can play at both ends of the ground. He has been reasonably effective up back and forward. Remember that game he closed down Barry Hall when we were actually challenging for the finals. He's also a big body (which they'll need) and can be a leader in the club. He's not going to be the type of player they'd throw stupid amounts of money at, but he'd be a valuable pick up for a team like the Gold Coast. Hell they picked up Daniel Harris from North Melb and he was pretty much their version of miller anyway.

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It seems very likely that Miller will not play another game for the Dees...

I'm sure he'll play 4 or 5 more games throughout the year, but he's gone at the end of the year - assuming he's out of contract.

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I don't really agree. If making finals in 2010 was our primary objective then yes, but bigger picture, play a developing kid before Miller.

I would have loved to have seen Miller make it. I made plenty of excuses for why he wasn't cutting it - EG Daniher moving him forward and back and not letting him settle into his "natural" position (which for me was CHF - plenty will disagree)etc etc. At the end of it all, I think he's just one of football's conundrums; plenty of talent but unable to fully execute it.

I don't think GC will want him for that reason.

I have no problem with that. I don't happen to agree, but I think it's perfectly reasonable to suggest Miller's in trouble.

The way I see it, our forward line is the least settled, and the least talented of the three sections of the field. Looking a our list of defenders and midfielders... that's a tough list to crack, as Buckley and Valenti would attest. But our forward line? We have an ok starting 3 (or 6) if we're injury free... Bate, Jurrah, Watts, Sylvia, Petterd, Green... Reads pretty well to me. But let's be honest, they're not ALL going to play well at the same time, and not ALL will remain injury free for 22 rounds. What then? After those six names, there's a list of bit-part, small forward-cum-midfielders, resting ruckmen, goalkicking mids...

Part of the reason our defence is so good is that we have an awesome starting big 3... Warnock, Frawey and one of Rivers and Garland. The point being there's plenty of quality in the cupboard there. Likewise in the midfield (Ruck notwithstanding).

For this reason, and due to the fact Miller seems to be loved by the coaching panel for his off-field leadership, I feel like when he inevitably plays again this year, if he goes ok, he'll be retained. Which, given our midfield, will be a lot easier for him to do.

Not sure he'll be attractive to GC though. Good luck to them if he is...

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I'm sure he'll play 4 or 5 more games throughout the year, but he's gone at the end of the year - assuming he's out of contract.

Yep, one of a handful who signed 1-year contracts last year.

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I would say its the other way around, a half forward that certainly goes ok in the midfield. Colin is too dangerous around the goals and a good grab, playing him as a midfielder would be a waste IMO.

Agree

FWIW - I would be trying to get Ricky's signature, we lack depth on the forward line (taking aside that we have some young talent that may, or may not, develop), i would be trying to cover our largest deficiency.

Signing for depth is hardly covering a deficiency.

Don't be supprised if Hawthorn are looking at Miller, they are in desperate need of Key Defenders.

About as likely as they looked at Meesen for their ruck woes last year.

Might they not look at Rivers? Hmmmmm.

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I don't really agree. If making finals in 2010 was our primary objective then yes, but bigger picture, play a developing kid before Miller.

I would have loved to have seen Miller make it. I made plenty of excuses for why he wasn't cutting it - EG Daniher moving him forward and back and not letting him settle into his "natural" position (which for me was CHF - plenty will disagree)etc etc. At the end of it all, I think he's just one of football's conundrums; plenty of talent but unable to fully execute it.

I don't think GC will want him for that reason.

Agree.

If you were Scott Clayton - list manager at the Gold Coast, you would have a mandate to build a list from scratch. Given plenty of $$ to put a credible list together that will grow within 3-4 years to have a shot at a Premiership (arguable). Scott Clayton would not see Brad Miller as part of that group. He has much better fish to fry.

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