The Day of Reckoning - Wednesday 19 November, 2008

[Spirit of the Demon 209]

Tomorrow is the day upon which delisted players must nominate if they are to feature in the NAB AFL Draft on November 29.

Wednesday 19 November (2.00pm) - DELISTED PLAYERS NOMINATE

The alternative is that such players could opt to nominate instead for the pre-season draft on December 16.

In the latter case, it's important for Melbourne because we have pick 1 in the PSD. I suspect that a lot of players who might have nominated in the past for the PSD only will now try their luck in the national draft and that the PSD is going to become even more meaningless and irrelevant than ever.

According to the AFL website Ben Cousins was given the choice today by the AFL Commission to nominate for either draft and it will be interesting to see what he and others like Chris Johnson and Tom Hislop chose to do and if these players end up at the clubs they favour at the moment.

[Yencks 8]

i can't believe that i am not the slightest bit exited about any of the recycled players

everysingle year, i stupidly get exited by the crappiest of crappy players (it sampi) but this year i dont want any

[Whispering_Jack 28,005]

i can't believe that i am not the slightest bit exited about any of the recycled players

everysingle year, i stupidly get exited by the crappiest of crappy players (it sampi) but this year i dont want any

I think that's the point. Once upon a time the club with pick 1 in the PSD had a big advantage at draft time because it held this trump card which could enable it to get an extra quality footballer. Among other things, changes to the rules by the AFL, have emasculated this choice to the point where it's virtually worthless.

If a team like Collingwood or Essendon was in this position right now, you'd find they would be making submissions to the AFL for some sort of special consideration as a result of the changed circumstances. Unfortunatley, we have other battles to fight and might not do anything about it.

[Jarka 767]

The delisted player who has caused the most amount of interest this year is Chris Johnson.

Irony is a [censored]

[Whispering_Jack 28,005]

The delisted player who has caused the most amount of interest this year is Chris Johnson.

Irony is a bitch

Apologies to High Tower and others who want to be rid of threads involving Nathan Carroll and CJ but here's an interesting article from the AFL website - Carroll heads draft nominees

"Carroll is one of the 43 delisted players who launched their draft nominations ahead of Wednesday's 2pm deadline.

One of the players not on the list is former Fremantle midfielder Josh Carr. Carr has been in training with his former club Port Adelaide and could still be picked up in the pre-season draft.

The same applies to ex-Demon Paul Johnson who has been in pre-season training with Carlton."

There's an idiot at the AFL who can't tell the difference between loyal Demon Paul Johnson and the other fellow. Ah well ...

Here's the list of players who have nominated for the national draft, to be held on Saturday November 29.

Steven Armstrong (West Coast)

Clinton Benjamin (Carlton)

Greg Bentley (Port Adelaide)

Luke Blackwell (Carlton)

Jace Bode (Melbourne)

Luke Brennan (Sydney Swans)

Leigh Brown (North Melbourne)

Bryce Campbell (Adelaide)

Nathan Carroll (Melbourne)

Tim Clarke (Hawthorn)

Adam Cockshell (Port Adelaide)

Jason Davenport (Geelong)

Nick Davis (Sydney Swans)

Zac Dawson (Hawthorn)

Fabian Deluca (Port Adelaide)

Chris Egan (Collingwood)

Peter Faulks (Sydney Swans)

Aaron Fiora (St Kilda)

Charlie Gardiner (St Kilda)

Blake Grima (North Melbourne)

Tom Hislop (Essendon)

Brad Howard (St Kilda)

Sam Iles (Collingwood)

Ryan Jackson (Carlton)

Luke Jericho (Adelaide)

Courtney Johns (Essendon)

Chad Jones (West Coast)

Andrew Lee (Essendon)

Luke McEntee (Hawthorn)

Kris Massie (Adelaide)

Danny Meyer (Richmond)

Wayde Mills (Brisbane Lions)

Matthew Moody (Brisbane Lions)

Gary Moss (Hawthorn)

Aisake O'Hailpin (Carlton)

Damien Peverill (Essendon)

Darren Pfeiffer (Carlton)

Michael Rix (St Kilda)

Chris Schmidt (Brisbane Lions)

James Thomson (West Coast)

Toby Thoolen (Collingwood)

Kristin Thornton (Sydney Swans)

Ryan Williams (Port Adelaide)

Ben Cousins has been given an extension until 2pm next Wednesday, November 26, to decide if he wants to nominate.

[Blistering 493]

Dear Lord,

Please make sure that Mr. Prendergast resists the temptation to even consider drafting any of these spuds on draft day.

[Spirit of the Demon 209]

Dear Lord,

Please make sure that Mr. Prendergast resists the temptation to even consider drafting any of these spuds on draft day.

I would take Hislop but the fact that he nominated for this draft and not the PSD suggests we're not interested.

[45HG 1,539]

Please tell me one good reason Cousins should be exempt from the same timeframe as everybody else?

[Little Goffy 12,639]

Please tell me one good reason Cousins should be exempt from the same timeframe as everybody else?

Uhh... because he only found out that he was allowed to nominate AFTER the normal deadline for nominations, not to mention he's been given a whole host of bizarre compliance requirements to consider before making his decision.

Seriously, it'd make anyone re-think their career if it involved having someone watch you [censored] three times a week.

[the fork 357]

I would take Hislop but the fact that he nominated for this draft and not the PSD suggests we're not interested.

Rather I would suggest that he is not interested. I see his nomination as a tactic perhaps to be used by the Bombers to get him back or some other side.

[e25 5]

Rather I would suggest that he is not interested. I see his nomination as a tactic perhaps to be used by the Bombers to get him back or some other side.

hawks possibly. but i agree with you

[occo 2]

Tim Clarke (Hawthorn)

Jason Davenport (Geelong)

Chris Egan (Collingwood)

Tom Hislop (Essendon)

Kris Massie (Adelaide)

Matthew Moody (Brisbane Lions)

These are the only players in my opinion that should be drafted IF melbourne want to go down the road of getting ex players. I think they should draft a player who hasnt played afl, vfl before and get a kid though. For me Moody and Clarke are the best there however the above players i wouldnt mind getting if melbourne wants to go down that road

[Eastie Boyz 0]

Clarke could be alright as a filler player in that 25-28 age bracket where you only have a couple of players.

Has his best couple of years of footy ahead of him and his training/work ethic is close to the best in the business.

Would be good for a couple of years then give him the arse if you're about to have a fair dinkum tilt at the flag

[e25 5]

I thought Danny Meyer would be decent when he was drafted, but something has happened along the way...

get the feeling either us or Port Adelaide are a chance to take him in the PSD.

[H_T 2,941]

Please tell me one good reason Cousins should be exempt from the same timeframe as everybody else?

Exactly right. Probably got an exemption for a wax appointment.

[Swampfox 190]

IMO the player with the most talent in that list is Nick Davis (besides Cousins)

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Clarke could be alright as a filler player in that 25-28 age bracket where you only have a couple of players.

Has his best couple of years of footy ahead of him and his training/work ethic is close to the best in the business.

Would be good for a couple of years then give him the arse if you're about to have a fair dinkum tilt at the flag

When the Club has stated that it is focussed on rebulding the list through youth why we would take a 25 to 28 filler player?

And if he is not seen as part of any real tilt at success why would you bother with him?

The age bracket problem will disappear as our junior players mature and step up.

[w00dy 146]

here is the list of delisted players we could pick up in the PSD... anyone worth drafting? a couple of names worth considering, but no body I think we'll take...

Adelaide: Bryce Campbell, Luke Jericho, Kris Massie.

Brisbane Lions: Wayde Mills, Matthew Moody, Chris Schmidt.

Carlton: Luke Blackwell, Ryan Jackson, Aisake O'hAilpin, Darren Pfeiffer.

Collingwood: Chris Egan, Sam Iles, Toby Thoolen.

Essendon: Tom Hislop; Courtney Johns, Andrew Lee, Damien Peverill.

Geelong: Jason Davenport,

Hawthorn: Tim Clarke, Zac Dawson, Luke McEntee, Gary Moss.

Melbourne: Jace Bode, Nathan Carroll,

North Melbourne: Leigh Brown, Blake Grima.

Port Adelaide: Greg Bentley, Adam Cockshell, Fabian Deluca, Ryan Williams.

Richmond: Danny Meyer,

St Kilda: Aaron Fiora, Charlie Gardiner, Brad Howard, Michael Rix.

Sydney: Luke Brennan, Nick Davis, Peter Faulks, Kristin Thornton.

West Coast: Steven Armstrong, Chad Jones, James Thomson.

Other: Ben Cousins

[montasaurus 0]

Leaving the "other" guy out as enough has been said in other threads.

I have always rated both Luke Jericho, Kris Massie from Adelaide for some reason but lets face it a lge forward could be handy for a couple of years until Watts comes on as a key position player. So by this logic even though both of these guys have not done much might be worth a look for PSD or our last pick in nat.

Courtney Johns,

Aisake O'hAilpin,

[deanox 8,643]

thats a very long list of players. thats almost 3 rounds of draft picks hoping for a second chance.

[Jaded No More 58,182]

thats a very long list of players.

And a very short list of talent.

Take a punt on a kid FFS.

[old55 21,356]

And a very short list of talent.

Take a punt on a kid FFS.

Yeah it's mystifying to me too why Luke Hodge, Gary Ablett and Adam Cooney aren't on the list