West Coast are a DISGRACE

[Bay Riffin 1,454]

You cannot tell me that West Coast were even remotely trying against a side so down on confidence from last week.

That was as soft as the Carlton game last year. They refused to man up, to tackle properly, to run, to do anything.

Pricks should have lost the priority pick 18, but now they will get it. We could never beat them in our finals race, and now I wanted to lose to them, we bloody well win.

My god they are cheats.

[Diablo 1]

You're right, they tanked hard, but they're hardly a disgrace. I only wish we'd had the minerals to do the same against Carlton and/or the Dogs last year.

Mark Stevens wrote about it in the Hun this morning in case you're unfamiliar with what we've missed out on.

In respect to the game, I've never been more apathetic about a win in my life. The lack of atmosphere was palpable, though I'm convinced that most of the members around me still weren't sure we were going to hold out, 18 points up, halfway through the last, against a team that had stopped trying at quarter time.

A pathetic game, and I would just about say I didn't care if we won or lost.

Cue winning culture morons.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,481]

I'm hoping Port don't go in with the same attitude next week V Melb, as we'll then be recorded with another win by default.

Mind you our record at AAMI is so appalling that Port would actually have to forfoit the game to lose.

[Redleg 40,375]

You're right, they tanked hard, but they're hardly a disgrace. I only wish we'd had the minerals to do the same against Carlton and/or the Dogs last year.

Mark Stevens wrote about it in the Hun this morning in case you're unfamiliar with what we've missed out on.

In respect to the game, I've never been more apathetic about a win in my life. The lack of atmosphere was palpable, though I'm convinced that most of the members around me still weren't sure we were going to hold out, 18 points up, halfway through the last, against a team that had stopped trying at quarter time.

A pathetic game, and I would just about say I didn't care if we won or lost.

Cue winning culture morons.

Agree 100%

[45HG 1,539]

Diablo, clearly winning today sets us on the path to becommng a superpower 50's unit who other teams fear

Guys, Demetriou told me tanking doesn't happen in footy, so i guess we were too good on the day..............................

At least it didn't cost us a priority pick like round 22 '07

[Pates 9,626]

I'm not going to suggest that WC gave it their all, but i don't think they went in there wanting to win. It wasn't pretty (just the obvious), but there was no reason for us to lose. We're not going to win 5 games this year, we MIGHT win against the Toigs but i can't see us beating Port next week.

I agree winning culture is a bunch of BS, but a losing culture isn't. We should never gear our players up to lose a game, it'd be a final nail in the coffin of our soul as a club.

Speaking to fans of WC, they wanted to win. I can't speak for the players and coaching staff, but that was their opinions.

Diablo: on the subject of the atmosphere, there wasn't a whole lot happening anyway, but when the siren blew i can gaurantee you that the fans around me were plenty happy!

[Nasher 33,607]

Why is it that West Coast were 4 and 15 leading in to this game, but they lost their 16th match and it's tanking? Make no mistake. West Coast are utterly rubbish and I didn't see anything at all today that suggests the contrary.

I might be naive and I may be the only person in the footy world that thinks this, but I believe we beat them on genuine merit today. We were poor (but great in patches), they were worse.

[Chook 15,001]

Why is it that West Coast were 4 and 15 leading in to this game, but they lost their 16th match and it's tanking? Make no mistake. West Coast are utterly rubbish and I didn't see anything at all today that suggests the contrary.

I might be naive and I may be the only person in the footy world that thinks this, but I believe we beat them on genuine merit today. We were poor (but great in patches), they were worse.

I agree. It's not like they were suddenly crap in the last quarter, allowing us to run over the top of them. The were terrible all game - we were just worse in the first quarter.

[Courtney_Fish 183]

We let WC do to us what Carlton did to us last year. You can say were here to win but those teams get the premierships while we go on doing "the right thing".

[Eastie Boyz 0]

Carlton haven't won a premiership.

I'd like to know whether any priority picks have ever played in a premiership. I believe Drew Banfield and Des Headland are the only 2 #1 picks to play in premierships.

Honestly though, if you think having one extra pick in any given draft is going to get you a premiership you're deluded

[Courtney_Fish 183]

Carlton haven't won a premiership.

I'd like to know whether any priority picks have ever played in a premiership. I believe Drew Banfield and Des Headland are the only 2 #1 picks to play in premierships.

Honestly though, if you think having one extra pick in any given draft is going to get you a premiership you're deluded

It all adds up. Carlton won their last premiership questionably. They paid the penalty and now they're doing better than us again. (We broke payment limits and we were doing pretty well too I think.)

[Tigers Dayz 2]

We let WC do to us what Carlton did to us last year. You can say were here to win but those teams get the premierships while we go on doing "the right thing".

Fair call CF. We bent over again today. Very poor player management. The gate was always going to be a loss. The match was always going to be a yawn. We knew they were going to lay down. I would have thought cleverer team selection, positional management and game rotations could have lost us the game if we tried hard enough.

Fair to say it made no difference to our post season drafting situation, but we could have shafted WCE, and then played out the season in an honest and forthright fashion.

[Eastie Boyz 0]

It all adds up. Carlton won their last premiership questionably. They paid the penalty and now they're doing better than us again. (We broke payment limits and we were doing pretty well too I think.)

They didn't win their last premierships with draft picks though

[H_T 3,038]

Why is it that West Coast were 4 and 15 leading in to this game, but they lost their 16th match and it's tanking? Make no mistake. West Coast are utterly rubbish and I didn't see anything at all today that suggests the contrary.

I might be naive and I may be the only person in the footy world that thinks this, but I believe we beat them on genuine merit today. We were poor (but great in patches), they were worse.

I agree Nasher, people who for one second believe that those West Coast players did not try, did not man up, etc either were not at the game or wouldn't know a football game if they saw one.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

I agree Nasher, people who for one second believe that those West Coast players did not try, did not man up, etc either were not at the game or wouldn't know a football game if they saw one.

I was there and WCE did not man up did not work hard and perform without any intensity what so ever. You fool yourself to suggest otherwise. It was a horrible game where we were less worse than they were. Against a side as fragile as MFC, to kick only one goal after quarter time deserves all cynicism they get.

[Nasher 33,607]

I was there and WCE did not man up did not work hard and perform without any intensity what so ever. You fool yourself to suggest otherwise. It was a horrible game where we were less worse than they were. Against a side as fragile as MFC, to kick only one goal after quarter time deserves all cynicism they get.

How did they play in their other 15 losses?

[H_T 3,038]

Against a side as fragile as MFC, to kick only one goal after quarter time deserves all cynicism they get.

1. You're not giving Melbourne enough credit.

2. West Coast had alot of young inexperienced players who were outplayed.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Fair call CF. We bent over again today. Very poor player management. The gate was always going to be a loss. The match was always going to be a yawn. We knew they were going to lay down. I would have thought cleverer team selection, positional management and game rotations could have lost us the game if we tried hard enough.

Fair to say it made no difference to our post season drafting situation, but we could have shafted WCE, and then played out the season in an honest and forthright fashion.

What a contradiction you are. How could we have played out the season in honest and forthright manner if we tanked this game? Also what credibility would Bailey have had given his statements to the other wise?

I could have take a loss but for the confidence of the younger players after the previous weeks there were definite positives.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

1. You're not giving Melbourne enough credit.

2. West Coast had alot of young inexperienced players who were outplayed.

It was a crap standard game where MFC strung together some better sequences of plays than the apathetic WCE. Its was a great step forward for many of our younger players and that was great. WCE had 10 players from their 2006 premiership side. They played poorly and provided not a smidge of real pressure on us. Comparing their work effort between the Essendon game and this game is like assessing the gap in the Grand Canyon.

[H_T 3,038]

It was a crap standard game where MFC strung together some better sequences of plays than the apathetic WCE. Its was a great step forward for many of our younger players and that was great. WCE had 10 players from their 2006 premiership side. They played poorly and provided not a smidge of real pressure on us. Comparing their work effort between the Essendon game and this game is like assessing the gap in the Grand Canyon.

And sides playing at home tend to lift their work ethic in front of their supporters. Ie West Coast in front of 38,000 at Subiaco last week. Younger players have had a history of not travelling well. Yes, they did play poorly, and Melbourne enforced them to play poorly during the game. Don't forget players such as Chad Fletcher are at the end of their tether.

Aside from this, I was impressed with Morton, Martin, Buckley, Maric and Newton. To name a few.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

And sides playing at home tend to lift their work ethic in front of their supporters. Ie West Coast in front of 38,000 at Subiaco last week. Younger players have had a history of not travelling well. Yes, they did play poorly, and Melbourne enforced them to play poorly during the game. Don't forget players such as Chad Fletcher are at the end of their tether.

Aside from this, I was impressed with Morton, Martin, Buckley, Maric and Newton. To name a few.

We proved that against Geelong last week didnt we. Dont overestimate it again. WCE have a mix of players both young and old. Many of the old are finished like Braun and FLetcher and Worsfold did not seem to care to much about it either at the 3/4 time huddle. MFC really got an entree serve with some really really sloppy football from WCE. It was a real 15vs 16 game where 16th side played like 15.5 side and the 15th side rolled over and played like a weekend club side.

Its a great win for the younger players you mention and they deserve the congratulations. Its a pity they were not given the due sporting respect by the opposition that hardly gave a yelp after quarter time.

[H_T 3,038]

We proved that against Geelong last week didnt we. Dont overestimate it again.

Geelong is hardly the right example to use RR They are an awesome side no matter what fortress you put them to play in. But for a young side like West Coast has been putting out of late, I'm tipping they will play out of their skin in front of 38,000 West Coast Fans and not play to this same level in front of 17,900 Dees fans at the G.

[Mono 455]

....................But for a young side like West Coast has been putting out of late, I'm tipping they will play out of their skin in front of 38,000 West Coast Fans and not play to this same level in front of 17,900 Dees fans at the G.

Like they did against Geelong in the west - 138 pt loss I believe.

we'll see in the next 2 weeks - they play hawks and geelong again. 2 massive losses and 1 win by us, and we just might miss the spoon.

Heavens, I'd love WC to get the spoon!

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Geelong is hardly the right example to use RR They are an awesome side no matter what fortress you put them to play in. But for a young side like West Coast has been putting out of late, I'm tipping they will play out of their skin in front of 38,000 West Coast Fans and not play to this same level in front of 17,900 Dees fans at the G.

Its got nothing to do with who you play when you said "And sides playing at home tend to lift their work ethic in front of their supporters". Your comment is about what teams to do themselves re work ethic in response to home crowd support. My point just proves your statement absurd.

WCE are playing Hawthorn next week at Subi. Go dream.

[H_T 3,038]

RR.

You stated, "Comparing their work effort between the Essendon game and this game is like assessing the gap in the Grand Canyon.