41 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

There’s plenty of quality in his field kicking too.

yes his kicking in general play seems more polished than his goal kicking routine.

He’s also a pretty good one grab mark going by the highlights.

1 hour ago, Gator said:

Emma Quayle. She started working for an AFL club.

I don't get concerned about ''paying overs'', but I'm aware they get picks wrong.

I'm not sure I explained myself properly.

...and I'm not thinking you were but some seem to think using say pick 8 on a player the phantoms have as say pick 20 or whatever is a stretch.

When I would think the professionals should know all the players in the draft and have their own rankings.

If we think he's worth 8 then take him at that.

You don't miss a good player because he didn't rank that high in the phantoms.

Jackson was a prime point, even a lot of the pros thought we over reached there...but I think the proof was in the premiership with that one.

Holmes at 20 was probably the pick of that draft or close to it.

We would have no problem using pick 7 or 8 on him now.

If we want him we may well have to cough up to get him. We're not picking him because of what he is, but because of what he could become.

In JT's hands.

7 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Cameron Nairn is a quality young player. 188cms. Yes he’s like Ollie Dempsey or a little like Jai Culley, or throw in a little Bailey Fritsch (but not as smoothe). Medium forward? Actually he plays more wing/half forward, or can shift to half back. He’s a smart player too. Left footer. Not highly skilled but good enough. His big assets are his running power and his marking. Kicking is not elite but satisfactory to be honest. I had him pegged in about pick 30 so it’ll be a big move to have him at our “11/12”. Again it’s all in JTs capable hands.

is there enough of a difference between nairn and leray to justify one at pick 12 over the other at 34?

to me, no. leray is the same size, good overhead and a nice kick

but maybe it was nairns two week block at the back end in the guts that is what we really liked, so they could u go cumming and nairn? probably not when u already have tholstrup idk much to weigh up

2 hours ago, adonski said:

Let's get Emma Quayle's thoughts on Nairns ball drop

isn't she the gws recruiter who used to work in the media?

King wants someone who will kick goals - not just another midfielder that "bombs it in" or even kicks it in well. Who beyond Pick 11/12 fits that cateogory? Nairn it will be.

2 hours ago, rjay said:

I think it's quite funny how people here are concerned we might pay overs for someone we know little about based on "draft experts" opinions.

I will trust our recruiting team ahead of these lot any day of the week.

Of course. Most posters here have a lot of faith in JT and we are always just waiting to see what he will do knowing its the job he is paid to do.

You have to remember that the draft period used to be the greatest day of the year for a lot of Demon fans as we had very little to cheer about for a decade. We are conditioned to scouring the draft boards and picking our favorites. We enjoy casting judgement on 3min videos of one or two games. Its all meaningless fun.

All our conversations wont change anything and in JT was trust.

@BAMF cheers to you

it’s all friendly banter !!

48 minutes ago, Turner said:

isn't she the gws recruiter who used to work in the media?

Emma Quayle I think yeah

3 hours ago, Gator said:

Just not well.

Yeah, nah. His ball drop is fine.

Edited yesterday at 12:531 day by Adam The God

I think Nairn's kicking is pretty ordinary, both set shots and field kicking. Looks a bit like Marty Hore's action, only not as good. If he's a bottom ager, there still significant development he can do on an AFL list in that area. His strengths are that he gets the ball a bit in the right spots, he's a good mark for his size, is clever around the contest and can kick a goal or two. To me theres a bit of a project player about him, but is that worth pick 7 or 8?

And I dont think we've mentioned Emma Quayle at GWS enough of late 😎

46 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

To me theres a bit of a project player about him, but is that worth pick 7 or 8?

I reckon it’s like Miers from Geelong, you’re never going to ‘fix’ that type of kicking action as it’s so natural to him, much like the buddy arc and the Josh Kennedy stutter. You work with what you’ve got.

But I wouldn’t be using a first round pick in him, even in this draft,

11 hours ago, adonski said:

Emma Quayle? Works at GWS now as a recruiter

Same Emma Quayle from Gisborne?

44 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

Same Emma Quayle from Gisborne?

Sister of Dan, the potatoe farmer from up that way?

10 hours ago, Harvey Wallbanger said:

King wants someone who will kick goals - not just another midfielder that "bombs it in" or even kicks it in well. Who beyond Pick 11/12 fits that cateogory? Nairn it will be.

I disagree, if we wanted pure goal kickers it would probably be Pickett and/or Dovaston and Ludowyke.

Nairn's value is the way he can improve our ball movement by hard running, smart leading and link up play as a half forward and wing. Especially as a guy who kicks it inside 50 well.

I reckon he'll want him forward of the ball - not playing a Mihocek or JVR role, but near goals - not in the mid-field or on a wing or half-back.

Would like to see some of Nairns footage from his higher disposal midfield games

13 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

@BAMF cheers to you

it’s all friendly banter !!

They've gotten smaller and smaller every year.

16 hours ago, Oxdee said:

First I’ve hear of Nairn anywhere near the top 20. He looks good but I think there are better options in the top 10

He would have always been there and thereabouts on the fringes of rankings by Twomey, Chellapah, etc. This is a draft where it's been frequently said that you could throw a blanket from pick 10 - 40.

The gaps aren't that large, recruiters will earn their money because some will have to stick their necks out for certain players.

Edited 13 hours ago13 hr by ChaserJ

For clarity I know we all love JT and know how good he is at spotting a bolter but Nairn is not in the Windsor/Tholstrup camp.

Comparatively in October 2023 Windsor was ranked 11th and Tholstrup 16th. We ended up taking Caleb with pick 7 and Kolt with 13. Nairn is currently ranked 29th, and if we were to take him with one of our picks that’d be in the 11-12 range. Even Dogga was ranked 14th at the same stage.

I would feel a lot more comfortable if we picked Nairn up through trading back into the later end of the first round than reaching at 7/8 (11/12). We’ve just lost two of our stalwart midfielders.

2 minutes ago, Roddog said:

For clarity I know we all love JT and know how good he is at spotting a bolter but Nairn is not in the Windsor/Tholstrup camp.

Comparatively in October 2023 Windsor was ranked 11th and Tholstrup 16th. We ended up taking Caleb with pick 7 and Kolt with 13. Nairn is currently ranked 29th, and if we were to take him with one of our picks that’d be in the 11-12 range. Even Dogga was ranked 14th at the same stage.

I would feel a lot more comfortable if we picked Nairn up through trading back into the later end of the first round than reaching at 7/8 (11/12). We’ve just lost two of our stalwart midfielders.

Kozzie Pickett draft prediction by AFL Draft central: DRAFT PROJECTION: 30-40

Need to take all these rankings with a grain of salt, they are just passion projects by amateurs or pure guess work to generate clicks by media outlets

54 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

He would have always been there and thereabouts on the fringes of rankings by Twomey, Chellapah, etc. This is a draft where it's been frequently said that you could throw a blanket from pick 10 - 40.

Anyone in that range you really like the look of?

Who above that do you particularly like?

10 minutes ago, Roddog said:

For clarity I know we all love JT and know how good he is at spotting a bolter but Nairn is not in the Windsor/Tholstrup camp.

Comparatively in October 2023 Windsor was ranked 11th and Tholstrup 16th. We ended up taking Caleb with pick 7 and Kolt with 13. Nairn is currently ranked 29th, and if we were to take him with one of our picks that’d be in the 11-12 range. Even Dogga was ranked 14th at the same stage.

I would feel a lot more comfortable if we picked Nairn up through trading back into the later end of the first round than reaching at 7/8 (11/12). We’ve just lost two of our stalwart midfielders.

9 delisted players in Cal’s top 30 of 2019. No sign of Kozzie Pickett.

afl.com.au

Cal Twomey's 2019 Phantom Form Guide: October update

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey ranks the best young footy talent in the land

18 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

9 delisted players in Cal’s top 30 of 2019. No sign of Kozzie Pickett.

afl.com.au

Cal Twomey's 2019 Phantom Form Guide: October update

AFL.com.au's draft guru Cal Twomey ranks the best young footy talent in the land

I think that was his 2nd last one of that year. This was the final one. Pickett at 30 but linked to Dees first pick. Similar vibes to this year maybe?

Cal Twomey's 2019 Phantom Form Guide: November update - https://www.afl.com.au/news/149391

13 minutes ago, whelan45 said:

I think that was his 2nd last one of that year. This was the final one. Pickett at 30 but linked to Dees first pick. Similar vibes to this year maybe?

Cal Twomey's 2019 Phantom Form Guide: November update - https://www.afl.com.au/news/149391

So Cal changed his ranking on Kozzie (from nowhere to 30) late in the piece because he got wind JT was keen on him. Says it all really.