13 hours ago, Older demon said:

For all the doom and gloom regarding a weak draft, the GWS recruiter believes this year is good to about 12 or 13, excluding the academy and F/S kids. In his opinion, it falls away quickly after 15, and they probably won't use any of their later picks. I think Taylor has something in mind for 7 & 8, and I never expected we would have such a dramatic cleanout.

In Taylor we trust

oops, missed this post

11 hours ago, Melonmonster said:

Is Tairon Ahmu still going around ? Would love to know how his year went ..

Not ranked in the top 40 or 50 from most online judges, such as Cal Toomey, Rookie Me, ESPN etc. So will be a late or rookie pick

On 15/10/2025 at 19:43, Neil Crompton said:

3rd

On 15/10/2025 at 21:18, Mouseymoo said:

Jeffo's

On 15/10/2025 at 23:05, LePig said:

him

50 minutes ago, Viscount Cardwell said:

Unfortunately every pick over 60 is worth zero points. They can go into deficit in next years draft, might put the GCS pick back a couple of picks

No points after 54, but under the old system every bid after 18 got pick 18’s discount. That would be 10% of 836 now which is 84 points, which makes every bid after 50 cost no points.

Not sure if they’ve changed that or kept it as is.

If that’s the case we’ve only got an issue between whatever 37 becomes and 49

Why don't we trade our pick 8 for Essendon future first rounder? Kind of the reverse of what Essendon did to us. Just saying.

1 minute ago, Coolx2 said:

Why don't we trade our pick 8 for Essendon future first rounder? Kind of the reverse of what Essendon did to us. Just saying.

We already have two first rounder next year innit

33 minutes ago, Mouseymoo said:

We already have two first rounder next year innit

Why have two when we could have three?

Maybe a silly idea - others who understand draft quality will know better than me - but if this years draft is really lower than most, then maybe it is better to load up for next year?

There are only 3 teams that have live picks before us (as WCE, Rich, Ess all have two picks in the top 6). This means many clubs don't have first round picks.

Plenty of teams may be interested in bringing next years pick forward to get a top 10 pick this year like we often do. Obviously some have deliberately traded out of this draft.

But would we rather have (for example) pick 8 this year, or Collingwood's first round pick next year (their first pick this year is 39)? Are they really going to finish top 4 / top 8?

3 hours ago, AB10 said:

I think any combination of Grilj, Lindsay & Dovaston if we keep picks 7 & 8 would be a fantastic result.

Grilj - Speed & Endurance, Line-breaker & full of xfactor

Lindsay - Looks to be the best kick in it, composed, good decision maker & leadership qualities having captained most of the teams he’s played for.

Dovaston - we’ve really lacked any kind of small fwd with high end talent & ability to hit the scoreboard since Kozzie, looks to be a bit in the Nick Watson type mold.

I reckon this is pretty bang on too.

Keen on Dovaston especially. Small forwards are the most important part of any forward line in the modern game, and the previous few premierships have been won by teams with elite small forwards. Dovaston has elite agility, will apply pressure and be a pest, and hit the scoreboard. He's a bit of a Nick Watson and Kozzie hybrid, though less mercurial than Kozzie. Very similar to Watson who we were keen on. If we can draft him, he'd form a dangerous partnership with Kozzie. Over time they could rotate midfield and forward, which Kozzie more midfield and Dovaston more forward.

Grilj's speed appeals. Great 2km time too, so has the endurance to keep doing it all game.

23 hours ago, Willmoy1947 said:

I would like to think we have spoken to Dean, in view of the shambles that Carlton is at the moment.

What shambles? 🤔 After this trade period this is the best place Carlton have been in the last year or so. A clean out is in process, just like at MFC.

As for young Harry Dean, the father son academy at Princes Park is named the 'Peter Dean Father-Son Academy' ... so speak to young Harry as much as you want, Harry is wearing Navy Blue next year 😉

12 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

Why have two when we could have three?

Maybe a silly idea - others who understand draft quality will know better than me - but if this years draft is really lower than most, then maybe it is better to load up for next year?

There are only 3 teams that have live picks before us (as WCE, Rich, Ess all have two picks in the top 6). This means many clubs don't have first round picks.

Plenty of teams may be interested in bringing next years pick forward to get a top 10 pick this year like we often do. Obviously some have deliberately traded out of this draft.

But would we rather have (for example) pick 8 this year, or Collingwood's first round pick next year (their first pick this year is 39)? Are they really going to finish top 4 / top 8?

It’s hard to know what deal would sway the club but I don’t mind having this ‘2 1st round picks for 4 years’ thing that we are in the middle of. It’s a good clump of talent at similar ages that reminds me of 2014-2016 when we got Salem, Petracca, Brayshaw, and Oliver. That really was the engine of our flag run.

3 hours ago, Gator said:

I've put in zero effort this year looking at tapes of this current crop of draftees. I thought I'd start last night, but it was just a cursory glance.

I've heard that Sullivan Robey has shot up the draft boards in a similar fashion to Oliver in 2015, so I started with him. Admittedly, it's a tiny sample size, but my goodness he looked ordinary. He's supposedly top 10 quality ? Maybe I just started with his worst video. Bad kicks, dropped marks, errant handballs, and the slowest decision maker you'd ever see. I'll look at more videos, but the round 19 talent league game I saw I couldn't have been less impressed. If he's a top 10 draft selection no wonder they're complaing about this year's draft.

I agree. I was pushed a video of his highlights from a game yesterday and it was full of turn overs and poor decision making.

But his championship video from memory is pretty good.

What are your thoughts on Josh Lindsay? He'll be around our picks. Just about every touch is a handball receive, but he can take a contested mark. His kicking is sublime though. On any angle, he can hit it, though only on the left foot it seems. But some good run and carry too.

Dovaston is the other guy, again likely available around our pick, has good energy, probably lacks the class of a Watson, but could be a more than handy player at AFL level, pushing into the front of stoppage from half forward. From what I've seen, he's very clean below his feet. JT allegedly really likes him.

Edited yesterday at 01:341 day by Adam The God
I just checked and I was pushed the same Round 19 game. A poor game definitely.

3 hours ago, Dee Boys said:

Lindsay sounds like a clone of his namesake?

Xavier played as a legitimate midfielder. Josh plays as a definitive half back.

Just now, Adam The God said:

Xavier played as a legitimate midfielder. Josh plays as a definitive half back.

We definitely still need an A grade half back to wax and wane with Bowey for the next decade, so wouldn’t be against Lindsay at all

Would also help Rivers and Xavier develop into full time mids

Carlton have 9 & 11 but would want to move at least one of those one so it doesn’t get sucked up by their father-son Dean.

Carlton 9 for our future 1st tied to GC to give us 7/8/9?

This draft doesn't seem all that bad after all does it...kinda happy with that haul.

19 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

I agree. I was pushed a video of his highlights from a game yesterday and it was full of turn overs and poor decision making.

But his championship video from memory is pretty good.

What are your thoughts on Josh Lindsay? He'll be around our picks. Just about every touch is a handball receive, but he can take a contested mark. His kicking is sublime though. On any angle, he can hit it, though only on the left foot it seems. But some good run and carry too.

Dovaston is the other guy, again likely available around our pick, has good energy, probably lacks the class of a Watson, but could be a more than handy player at AFL level, pushing into the front of stoppage from half forward. From what I've seen, he's very clean below his feet. JT allegedly really likes him.

Dovaston is exactly what we need. I've only seen a couple of videos, but he's quick, has a crack, has footy smarts, etc.

I've only seen one video of Lindsay, but he looked great. Sublime kicking and could take a contested mark. Supposedly, he doesn't have midfield craft and may not be overly athletic. Are those knocks on the money ? That's when you need to see a lot more of a player. But at first glance you can't help but be impressed with his class. If he can never translate his skills to the midfield I'd be hesitant, as I do think we need to get a decent mid.

I liked the look of Greeves, but haven't seen enough.

I wasn't keen on Cumming or Schubert.

So, for me, early days, if Lindsay can become a bona fide mid at AFL level I like the look of him and Dovaston.

But Greeves looked really good to me. What am I missing with him ?

On 15/10/2025 at 19:56, cstyles99 said:

We’ve also used first round picks on Bowey, Windsor, Langford and Lindsay. Not every pick works out but we have one of the best talent ID teams in the league.

And Laurie has not been given a chance. Like all coaches, SimonG had his favourites and some blokes, Laurie among them, were never given a real go to show what they can do. Toby Bedford is another outstanding example. So if King doesn't see much in Laurie then we'll need to concede his pick was a bust but I hope the kid can make it under the new regime.

Ditto JVR, although he showed promise and appears to have stalled, might progress as a forward with a better support structure which is what (gulp) Mihocek is there to provide.

Interesting listen. When asked about some names for wet toasts picks 1 & 2, Ablett through up Sharp & Lindsay as options… mock drafts I’ve seen have both boys around 8-12 range.

Doesn’t subscribe to talk about a weak draft.

37 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

I agree. I was pushed a video of his highlights from a game yesterday and it was full of turn overs and poor decision making.

But his championship video from memory is pretty good.

What are your thoughts on Josh Lindsay? He'll be around our picks. Just about every touch is a handball receive, but he can take a contest mark. His kicking is sublime though. On any angle, he can hit it, though only on the left foot it seems.

Dovaston is the other guy, again likely available around our pick, has good energy, probably lacks the class of a Watson, but could be a more than. handy layer at AFL level pushing into the front of stoppage from half forward. From what I've seen, he's very clean below his feet.

12 minutes ago, RedLegs23 said:

Interesting listen. When asked about some names for wet toasts picks 1 & 2, Ablett through up Sharp & Lindsay as options… mock drafts I’ve seen have both boys around 8-12 range.

Doesn’t subscribe to talk about a weak draft.

Mick Ablett doesn't know what day it is so take it with a grain of salt

42 minutes ago, rpfc said:

It’s hard to know what deal would sway the club but I don’t mind having this ‘2 1st round picks for 4 years’ thing that we are in the middle of. It’s a good clump of talent at similar ages that reminds me of 2014-2016 when we got Salem, Petracca, Brayshaw, and Oliver. That really was the engine of our flag run.

That's fair. It has a nice ring to it. But it's also just PR. We're bringing in lots of new players this year regardless and it would still mean the same number of first round picks in a 4 year window - just more weighted in stronger drafts? Not saying we should do this, just raising it as an idea.

Eg if we are really keen on Dovaston who is said to likely go in the teens, then you could effectively split one of our picks say with GWS (12) or Dogs (14) for their first next year (maybe we give our second back which is tied to GC or whatever).

Maybe they wouldn't do it... but it could mean we get the players we want this year and have 3 first round picks for next year which is useful for Butters / Humphrey etc or just to load up on the draft (particularly if next year is similar quality to last year)

39 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Carlton have 9 & 11 but would want to move at least one of those one so it doesn’t get sucked up by their father-son Dean.

Carlton 9 for our future 1st tied to GC to give us 7/8/9?

I would leave next years draft hand alone. With 2 firsts and our 2027 1st, we can (and should) go after a ready-made superstar. I think there will be an abundance of talent that will become available.

Butters - out of contract. Will be a RFA so we don't necessarily need to pursue him all picks. We have the cap space too, which is great. Will get May off our books too.

Bailey Humphrey - will no doubt want to request a move again.

Nick Daicos - after Collingwood start to fall off a cliff, he may want to look for greener pastures. Not saying we are greener pastures, but i hope we show enought improvement in 2026 to start to attract mature players for our next tilt. When Sidebottom and Pendles retire next year and De Goey is absolutely shot, their midfield is going to be super super bare and they have no draft picks to do anything. They are going to really crash hard unless they can pull some type of miracle with free agents.

Id also love to pursue one of Freo's VIC players next year and/or LJ.

Then there are the Key Position stocks. Maybe lodge an offer for Jed Walters / Ethan Read.

There is always the draft too depending on how we fair in the 2026 season.

Hopefully this year we prioritise more speed and kicking off half back / outside so that we can start to really improve ball movement and get a better assessment of our F50 stocks.

On 16/10/2025 at 11:56, Random Task said:

I think lamb just misspoke or was referring to it being past 7:30 so no further trades were being done today.

Unless there's been an unannounced changed of rules you can trade picks right up to and on draft night.

Lamb was asked a very poorly worded question. Are you taking picks 7 and 8 to the draft? As trading for players has closed you have to take them to the draft, so he said yes. Lamb was not asked Will you uptrade on draft night?

1 hour ago, No. 31 said:

What shambles? 🤔 After this trade period this is the best place Carlton have been in the last year or so. A clean out is in process, just like at MFC.

As for young Harry Dean, the father son academy at Princes Park is named the 'Peter Dean Father-Son Academy' ... so speak to young Harry as much as you want, Harry is wearing Navy Blue next year 😉

A nerve old chap?

If you're going to watch a video of this year's crop would you place greater stock in the under 18's national comp over the Coats league?

On 16/10/2025 at 10:48, Adam The God said:

I'd argue 2019 was a super draft. 2025 is not. Good luck.

I know that. I’m just saying whatever they end up being. He has to get 100% right.