Just now, GS_1905 said:

What actually happened to Jack ? he was really good about 5 years ago?

It's what happened to the game. Same boat as Oliver and Mcrae.

Just now, GS_1905 said:

What actually happened to Jack ? he was really good about 5 years ago?

He's still pretty good! 2024 was his second best season.

The reason he's been pushed out is St Kilda just went berserk and have [censored] up their salary cap. They've just paid:

Nas 2 million

DeKoning 1.8 million

Flanders 1 million

Jack Silvagni 900k

Steele is on 900k, so has been pushed out. We've added one year onto his contract to smooth it down. Saints are also paying a chunk of his wage. For a future third rounder and wage contributed, this is one of the best trades by any club in recent memory. I was against it given he's an aging inside mid, but seeing how cheap we got him it's hard not to be pumped.

He's a better leader than anyone we've got at the club bar Gawn. Great to have some experience and leadership for the youngsters.

Welcome man of Steele!

If we had a hypothetical best 23 on the park would he be in it, feel like that is line ball next year but even more suspect after that as our younger players get more experience and we bring in more talent via trade or draft, got to think we want to get more mid time into players like Rivers, Langford, Lindsey and Windsor. Pickett and Viney would also be chosen before him to, he also doesn’t seem like that type that could play another role either.

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by Garbo

38 minutes ago, Garbo said:

If we had a hypothetical best 23 on the park would he be in it, feel like that is line ball next year but even more suspect after that as our younger players get more experience and we bring in more talent via trade or draft, got to think we want to get more mid time into players like Rivers, Langford, Lindsey and Windsor. Pickett and Viney would also be chosen before him to, he also doesn’t seem like that type that could play another role either.

I was surprised to see he is only 29. So yes - he slots straight into Clarrys role.

5 hours ago, lorn said:

If he was still good they would of found a way to fit him into the cap

You are determined to cheapen this selection lorn.

Why not look at the pluses ?

29 yrs still playing good footy at Saints but just been relegated in their pecking order by younger types like Darcy Wilson and Nas.

Has been traded due to his experience to “ teach and mind” the kids. Harvey Duke Kolt and X plus any mid recruits.

Would be a natural VCapt and Leadership Group member now that Trac Clarry Gus etc. are no longer on our books.

Although he is not fast he still will be valuable as an inside midfielder just not when JV is in the middle though.

Not sure what other positions he can pinch hit in but will be surprised if he is not a one trick pony. Time will tell.

Actually wanted to come to Dees rather than try to stay at Saints at this stage of his career. With their recent recruitment that is a big plus.

So he is a very solid citizen who I think has attained AA stays in the 20’s.

4 hours ago, In Gawn we Trust said:

Agree on all of that.

Also this might just be me, but I lowkey see this as a long winded Brayshaw replacement. Versatile, leader, good culture guy and by all reports just a good human being. All of which Gus brought in spades

You have nailed it Gawny.

I posted just now that he will be a leadership group member and his experience takes Gus Clarry and Trac’s nurturing role plus could be a VC along with JV. Brilliant choice and watch these kids on the middle love their work now!!!

We've just lost a combined 51 average disposals (as inefficient as they were) a week (23 for Trac,28 for clarry). Steele (avg 23) maybe keeps the dam wall from busting during this rebuild. Seems like a good leader who might help Max fly the flag!

17 minutes ago, BillyBeane said:

We've just lost a combined 51 average disposals (as inefficient as they were) a week (23 for Trac,28 for clarry). Steele (avg 23) maybe keeps the dam wall from busting during this rebuild.

Straight out of Moneyball!

Now we just need to find another 28. 4 extra per game from 7 players?

5 hours ago, Garbo said:

If we had a hypothetical best 23 on the park would he be in it, feel like that is line ball next year but even more suspect after that as our younger players get more experience and we bring in more talent via trade or draft, got to think we want to get more mid time into players like Rivers, Langford, Lindsey and Windsor. Pickett and Viney would also be chosen before him to, he also doesn’t seem like that type that could play another role either.

Yeah he’s definitely still in our best side. I don’t think his output would be dissimilar to Clayton Oliver. He just has way better defensive habits, leadership and character. We don’t need him to be a superstar, just to play a role.

Steve king comes from the cats where atkins is the tackle king, I suspect we’ve bought in Steele to play the same role, tackle, defend and allow guys like kozzie and rivers to get after the game.

The impact Steele is going to have on the development of our young guys will be powerful especially now we’re going to likely have 4 more first rounders in the next 2 years