3 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

third round pick for clarry won't do his self esteem and mental health any favours

His manager will tell him it’s the equivalent of a first rounder - he won’t know the difference

2 hours ago, Very Jaded said:

We chose to blow the relationship up, despite Clarry being invested and wanting to stay

We did this

When you not only blow things up, but also let such a blow up leak, you have no leg to stand on

GWS are happy to put in the effort we obviously no longer want to put in, while we pay for it

How to lose a trade 101

We did not do this, without influence from Oliver and you know this he is invested to a certain degree, he’s not without issue and not meeting expectations of required professional standards in 2025.

Why do you think clubs aren’t jumping at him for $6-700k and a Future third

4 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

third round pick for clarry won't do his self esteem and mental health any favours

Probably not. But it should be a bloody good kick up the butt.

Imagine three years ago someone suggesting that we’d trade Oliver in a few years for a future third pick. Wild. And sad.

I get that a F3 for Oliver seems ridiculous at first glance but what would you trade for a 28yo who performed as Oliver did in 2025? Certainly not a 1st rounder. Perhaps a second rounder but then there’s the off field issues to consider. So, a third rounder it is. Finally, who wants to pay someone worthy of a third rounder $1M+/yr. ?

GWS’ offer only seems ridiculous to us because of our emotional attachment to Oliver and his past (onfield) exploits. If the offer truly was ridiculous, there would be an auction taking place but there isn’t.

If a new coach & admin think it’s time to cut our losses, let’s do so and move on.

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

But it is completely bad faith negotiating to make your first offer and a low ball offer at that, the day before trading closes.

Tell them if you can’t afford his salary, we will look at a player swap, to assist your salary cap and save your pick.

This is real dirty dealing by them.

Tell them the wheel will turn if that is how they operate.

Surely we could bring his salary forward and pay it off over the next year or so? Frontload it, we'll have space once Trac is off the books.

8 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

third round pick for clarry won't do his self esteem and mental health any favours

As if he would give a [censored] about what picks are being swapped for him lol.

He is in the states probably having the time.. of his life.

3 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Fickle. Don’t bother coming back when the times are good again.

Glad you think there will be good times again! I admire your supreme optimism very much. Sadly, we are only going to go one way, downhill.

We just don't have the cattle to go upwards.

Just now, Bobby McKenzie 2 said:

Glad you think there will be good times again! I admire your supreme optimism very much. Sadly, we are only going to go one way, downhill.

We just don't have the cattle to go upwards.

Yes because the cattle we have had the last two years has pointed us to the upwards direction.. oh wait..

2 hours ago, Bobby McKenzie 2 said:

Club put Clarry through the ringer. He had every right to spit the dummy after the way the club treated him. Natural, human reaction. Thanks Mr King.

This is a joke, right?

2 minutes ago, Bobby McKenzie 2 said:

Glad you think there will be good times again! I admire your supreme optimism very much. Sadly, we are only going to go one way, downhill.

1 hour ago, Adam The God said:

I agree with this though. Our comms team strike again.

Am I naive, I assumed it was Oliver’s management that leaked the details of the meeting? It was the nuclear option but it helped them

14 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Surely we could bring his salary forward and pay it off over the next year or so? Frontload it, we'll have space once Trac is off the books.

I was just thinking about that. Front loaded contributions are a lot more palatable.

	Equal Per year	Front-loaded
2026	650,000	2,300,000
2027	650,000	237,500
2028	650,000	237,500
2029	650,000	237,500
2030	650,000	237,500
Total	3,250,000	3,250,000

2 minutes ago, rodney_g_resurrected said:

I was just thinking about that. Front loaded contributions are a lot more palatable.

	Equal Per year	Front-loaded
2026	650,000	2,300,000
2027	650,000	237,500
2028	650,000	237,500
2029	650,000	237,500
2030	650,000	237,500
Total	3,250,000	3,250,000

The issue with frontloading is that if you give it to someone and their money drops off too much they might agitate to go elsewhere and get back on the bigger coin again.

2 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

The issue with frontloading is that if you give it to someone and their money drops off too much they might agitate to go elsewhere and get back on the bigger coin again.

Aren't we giving to Clarry while he plays for the Giants?

2 minutes ago, rodney_g_resurrected said:

Aren't we giving to Clarry while he plays for the Giants?

Ahh right sorry didn't understand what you meant.

2 hours ago, Adam The God said:

[censored]. You lot think Lamb alone is pushing Clarry out? There is a list management team, which includes the new coach. We want him out, it's effectively a salary dump.

Not a salary dump at 50% I'm afraid.

It's a pure dollar decision and 50% salary for five? years in return for zero is an easy decision....

NO

2 hours ago, Bobby McKenzie 2 said:

After 65 years of membership I am joining with a few of my mates in refusing to renew my membership next season.

I hear you Bobby, I really do.

A 35 year member myself, and I’ll be downgrading from GFG to just a regular membership next year. Purely because of my ego and not wanting the streak to lapse.

It’s amazing how quickly this club has gone from the pinnacle to the depths of inadequacy we find ourselves in now.

58 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Surely we could bring his salary forward and pay it off over the next year or so? Frontload it, we'll have space once Trac is off the books.

We can probably do that and easier if May leaves.

I still think we should have a go at a Giants player, to give Giants salary cap relief so we need to pay less of his contract.

Would be happy to take Max Gruzewski off their hands, free up some cap space for them to pay half of Clarries wage.

Can’t say I’m surprised by the proposed deal here. Right from the start I was advocating that it was better to keep Oliver and make the most of a bad situation.

1 hour ago, Bobby McKenzie 2 said:

Glad you think there will be good times again! I admire your supreme optimism very much. Sadly, we are only going to go one way, downhill.

We just don't have the cattle to go upwards.

Very silly comment. 2019/20 were not that great but guess what happened in 21. We have some very good young talent and in my view it's upwards and you need to follow another side if you think differently.

To many negative people around here. Stay on the horse or get off.

3 hours ago, DubDee said:

Look, it's a tough time for us Demon supporters losing our former champs

I honestly thing the club is doing the right thing now to right the ship and I'm excited about the future (pretty much)

I believe they're doing the right thing, sad it is happening and apprehensive about our future 😬

2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

third round pick for clarry won't do his self esteem and mental health any favours

$7m over 5 years will help

3 hours ago, Adam The God said:

[censored]. You lot think Lamb alone is pushing Clarry out? There is a list management team, which includes the new coach. We want him out, it's effectively a salary dump.

A salary dump is getting rid of a player and his salary for a [censored] pick

We’re getting rid of a player for a [censored] pick and paying him 700k as well

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

As if he would give a [censored] about what picks are being swapped for him lol.

He is in the states probably having the time.. of his life.

No, he’s in Melbourne. A mutual friend saw him this morning near AIA. They stopped and chatted, Clarrie was on his way to the gym (AAMI Park).