On 16/07/2025 at 15:42, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

We are selecting with 2026 list and style in mind and balancing being competitive not just playing kids for kids sake.

TMac going out allowed Turner to go back and he has blossomed. It will be interesting this week to see with Lever out and Petty available what happens with TMac though.

Be ready for the meltdown when Tmac is dropped again and Petty plays back

12 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Largely Agree Re T Mac Vs Lever. I understood the rationale at the time, but in hindsight, it was a bit of a punt that didn't pay off. Lever has looked underdone and struggled to get back to his best form since he returned. Also at the time T Mac was dropped, we still had a sniff of finals in our season and he just might have made enough difference to get us a few more wins and we'd still be in it. But everything is clear and beautiful in hindsight hey.

The calculation these days is that quality players like Lever, Viney, Trac etc don't usually need a run in the twos to get back in form, but I do wounder if it wouldn't be a prudent move sometimes in marginal circumstances.

It's also somewhat disappointing that T Mac may well not get the opportunity to get to 250 games, when in alot of ways I think he deserves that honour, but will likely fall just a few short.

Conversely I'd also like to see Adams blooded before the season is out.

Tmac was dropped to let Disco play back. It was never Tmac or Lever.

45 minutes ago, BangBnagBang said:

Be ready for the meltdown when Tmac is dropped again and Petty plays back

Tmac was dropped to let Disco play back. It was never Tmac or Lever.

Goody said on SEN that Petty has missed four weeks and will return via Casey, so that’s Lever, Spaz and Petty out, so TMac should stay in and perhaps Howes replaces Rick??

On 16/07/2025 at 15:57, Ethan Tremblay said:

Selection is based on who Goody thinks is going to be part of our next flag tilt.

In 2170!

So Windsor, Lindsay & Kolt stay in despite weeks of poor form plus Goodie's mate Sharp gets promoted while Howes & Billings can't get a sniff.

All looks pretty fair to me.

We’ve got to get Tmac to two fiddy

Changes are like for like - In May & Sharp Out Lever & Sparrow (both injured).

32 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

Changes are like for like - In May & Sharp Out Lever & Sparrow (both injured).

Can’t see Sparrow and Sharp being like for like.

8 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Can’t see Sparrow and Sharp being like for like.

Both hhf’s cf. Tom is more solidly built and Harry is a lot faster and can both kick goals.👍😁

Impressed with the changes

Thought for sure Petty would come straight back in

Goody keeps his favourites out it seems

55 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

So Windsor, Lindsay & Kolt stay in despite weeks of poor form plus Goodie's mate Sharp gets promoted while Howes & Billings can't get a sniff.

All looks pretty fair to me.

Billings and Howes’ form for the demons has been terrible

Play youth and look to next year

Howes has a future but we don’t need another defender in

50 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

We’ve got to get Tmac to two fiddy

Unfortunately, even if he played every remaining game this season he’d end the year on 249.

On 16/07/2025 at 14:02, DeeSpencer said:

Selection integrity is for losers.

We’ve seen what Billings has done at afl for over a decade.

I’d give it 15 minutes in to any game he plays for everyone to wonder why on earth we’ve picked Billings.

Seems like Billings slaughters the VFL but just can't reproduce the same stuff in the Seniors. A bit like Laurie.

5 hours ago, BangBnagBang said:

Be ready for the meltdown when Tmac is dropped again and Petty plays back

Tmac was dropped to let Disco play back. It was never Tmac or Lever.

Maybe, but seems T Mac, May and Disco can all play in the same team - well at least sometimes (Carltons plethora of tall forwards may have something to do with it).

2 hours ago, Ghostwriter said:

Unfortunately, even if he played every remaining game this season he’d end the year on 249.

👻 - you haven’t included finals 🤔😮

On 16/07/2025 at 15:52, Wrecker45 said:

Shane Wane played 6 state games for Victoria before he was selected for Australia despite his fotm not warranting selection. He was completely out of his depth when he made the Australian side and got belted all over the ground. That turned out pretty well in the end.

Selecting for the future can be wise even if it's not the best for short term outcomes.

If Koltyn turns into the equivalent of Warnie then we all owe you a beer

47 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Maybe, but seems T Mac, May and Disco can all play in the same team - well at least sometimes (Carltons plethora of tall forwards may have something to do with it).

Carlton has a plethora of tall forwards? They had to play TDK up forward last week because McKay is out - Voss rationailsing the move claiming that Pittonet is in "great form" and so shall play the main ruck role......

20 hours ago, Ghostwriter said:

Unfortunately, even if he played every remaining game this season he’d end the year on 249.

That really sucks. He is one player who really really deserves to get to 250, having been through it all, the worst of the worst and the absolute highest of highs.

Stuck it out in the worst defense in a side getting smashed by 100 points a week, to kicking a goal after the siren in our grand final win, back to filling gaps in defense.

He is criminally underrated is Tom. Pick 57 to nearly 250 games and a premiership, is almost unheard of.

Not sure there is selection integrity, I think like anything it’s favorites.

Tmac was our best defender all year until dropped for no good reason, and despite great performances in the twos, and the ones players not performing, it took injuries to bring him up.

I think that needs to be looked at.

16 minutes ago, SadDee said:

I think that needs to be looked at.

Laughable.

10 hours ago, SadDee said:

Not sure there is selection integrity, I think like anything it’s favorites.

Tmac was our best defender all year until dropped for no good reason, and despite great performances in the twos, and the ones players not performing, it took injuries to bring him up.

I think that needs to be looked at.

Without knowing the selection criteria each week - which none of us do - you cannot claim their isn’t any selection integrity. I’m sure there are many good reasons why one player is or isn’t selected - and certainly no ridiculous reasons like “playing favourites”. Nothing can, or needs to be “looked at”.

Edited July 18Jul 18 by Neil Crompton

On 16/07/2025 at 13:19, Cranky Franky said:

I wonder how much selection integrity counts towards team cohesion & confidence in the coaching group.

Most supporters were perplexed when Tom McDonald was dropped despite solid form.

The continued selection of Windsor & Tholstrup despite playing poorly is also mystifying & it looks like Lindsay needs a rest as well.

I'm not a fan of Jack Billiings but after a month of good form at Casey it's hard to understand why he is not selected.

Billings is just a good VFL player.

2 hours ago, Neil Crompton said:

Without knowing the selection criteria each week - which none of us do - you cannot claim their isn’t any selection integrity. I’m sure there are many good reasons why one player is or isn’t selected - and certainly no ridiculous reasons like “playing favourites”. Nothing can, or needs to be “looked at”.

wrong.

Edited July 19Jul 19 by SadDee