Jeremy Cameron or Jesse Hogan would struggle to kick goals in Melbournes forward line.

Our delivery is so poor

3 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

One more stat to add to our misery.

We are at 14% conversion ratio per inside 50 for the season. The AFL average is 24%.

Awful awful awful.

We're at 20.3% for the season. We're 7th for shots per inside 50, but 18th for goals per inside 50.

The definition of madness, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different out come.

I have supported the coaching team through the last few years but the time has come to really question what value they are adding week to week.

We have the bye next week and I hope the players sit do together and the coaches sit down separately and both groups have very clear, no holds barred discussions on the problems we face.

If we come out after the bye with the same attitude and instructions for the second half of the season then draw a line under Goodwin and his team.

Midfield today was a pace too slow to the ball and, when they had the ball, could not find time or space. Forward line a mess.

A question: Do we backchat the umpires too much?

We won the free kick count 21/13 but we could not win a free in a position to threaten the goals. We always seem to be on the end of the bad ump decisions.

Spend the rest of the season looking through the cupboard to see what some of the rest of the list can bring to the starting 23.

I don't know what to say but Port fans are gross and thank god I am coming back to Melbourne. See you in 2026, this one's done.

1 hour ago, Willmoy1947 said:

Georgiadis thanked his players up the ground for their delivery. He also thanked the maggots for their several free kicks, as did all the Port players for their frees.

Free kicks 21-13

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

Hmm Steven May gobbing off this week after 7.4 kicked on him?

Arrogant anchor

To be fair it seemed Turner was on him for the first 3 or 4. Either way, the way the ball was being delivered would've been hard for anyone to defend that.

1 hour ago, Superunknown said:

What do you do about systemically poor umpiring other than call it out?

Umpires had nothing to do with today's result. If it's attention to one of your key players, sort it out on the field. Block for them, give them a chopout, let the opposition know they won't get away with targeting one of your teammates.

6 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Free kicks 21-13

Count is irrelevant. Where they are paid and the ones not paid are what matters.

1 hour ago, Purple77 said:

This post makes me want to deactivate my account.

He's right, Max is huge around the ground but consistently let's himself and the team down with his goalkicking. It is inexcusable that it hasn't been fixed, he's kicked what 2.13 or so for the year? Many from within 30m on barely any angle. It's demoralising for the team when that continues to happen.

5 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Count is irrelevant. Where they are paid and the ones not paid are what matters.

Like Fritsch's one that led to a goal? Give me a break, if the players took advantage of their opportunities and played smarter instead of just dump kicking it might be worth raising but with all the issues we have the umpiring is the least of our concerns.

2 hours ago, VNightCityLegend said:

Absolute garbage. Our best and worst is literally top 4 or bottom 4. Within a kick of GWS and Collingwood, only to also get smashed by Norf whilst also losing to this diabolical Port and St Kilda sides.

This high bombing BS with no forward craft or desire to work inside the 50 is something that’s been happening over the last 4 years without change.

I remember Collingwood from 2020-21 lauded as the kings of “crab football” which automatically incited change by McCrae. They haven’t looked back since.

Goodwin has had 4 years to fix this nonsense and has done NOTHING to fix it and it has cost us an entire season AGAIN!

Totally agree, have been in his corner but 4 years of same BS and looking like back to back bottom 4 finishes is not acceptable with the talent we have, something isn’t right and can’t wait until 2026 for the change, it reflects our club a president & Ceo in waiting goes to the core of what’s wrong at the club!

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

Our forwards lead until they see the ball fly over their head at which time they doubt themselves and stay under the high ball so they can compete.

Rubbish. Next time you're at a game focus on the movement of our forwards and then focus on the movement of the other teams forwards. It was stark last week, ours stand around like statues or try to cheat out the back, Collingwood's were in constant movement to try and create space/chaos and confusion amongst the defenders.

The mids are an issue too but the forwards don't make it easy for them, if you move it makes it easier for the mids to kick to your advantage, if you stand still they kick it to you which means you have to stand under the ball and makes it easy for the defenders to jump over the top to intercept/spoil.

8 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

He's right, Max is huge around the ground but consistently let's himself and the team down with his goalkicking. It is inexcusable that it hasn't been fixed, he's kicked what 2.13 or so for the year? Many from within 30m on barely any angle. It's demoralising for the team when that continues to happen.

I’d take Gawn for everything he gives and has always given. He has been placed in the GOAT argument for a reason. To focus on his one downfall is is poor form .

9 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

He's right, Max is huge around the ground but consistently let's himself and the team down with his goalkicking. It is inexcusable that it hasn't been fixed, he's kicked what 2.13 or so for the year? Many from within 30m on barely any angle. It's demoralising for the team when that continues to happen.

Would be better off kicking a forward torp tumbler off one step. More chance of going straight

we are 5 wins 9 losses

a horrible mess

Midfield and forward coaches, any accountability there or is it all on the players for bad execution and resorting to old style of play. High up and under down the line. So many times our forwards all went up for the mark. No cumbers. Season may be over but use the time to get a few things right.

43 minutes ago, WheeloRatings said:

We're at 20.3% for the season. We're 7th for shots per inside 50, but 18th for goals per inside 50.

2 minutes ago, Nietaphart said:

I’d take Gawn for everything he gives and has always given. He has been placed in the GOAT argument for a reason. To focus on his one downfall is is poor form .

It's a small part of the general malaise of "ball butchery". Unfortunately our senior players, particularly the midfield and some of our stars, are the worst offenders.

2 hours ago, HarpenDee said:

Kozzie sniped out of it changed the game

Much like what they've done to Max years gone by

Looked to be lying out cold about a minute before the Butters snipe. Obviously no replays or mentions on comms.

"Is that a free kick? I mean, its forearm to the face, but is that a free kick". The butter won't melt attitude to the most fined player in history sickens me.

2 hours ago, M_9 said:

I love Milkshake but he's chance of a contract extension is slipping away on the back of today's performance.

The gap between his best and worst is huge.

Same story his whole career. He is at his best when he plays within his limitations.

Clarry looks like he just learned to kick a football last week

When streaming through the middle can we at least just chip it to someone rather than blasting away??

it’s [censored] killing me!

I’d be over it if it was under 12’s

Never known a side like ours to turn a spud into pomme de soufflé e.g. Ratugolea.

Edited June 15Jun 15 by chook fowler

Well, that was a stinker and Goodwin knows it as refelected in his presser. He cannot be responsible for

1. Stupidity and complete lack of discipline. Melk gives away a 50 metre, Viney is just dumb. May undiciplined and McVee sucked in 30 meters out before the ball goes back to the middle. You cannot coach that level of stupid

2. Melk has had some success on taller backs, but Ratagolea had his best game ever today. Stop trying to take hangers and lead better, still give Jefferson a go for the rest of the year

3. 10 bounces to 3 indicates run and carry, something we don't do or are capable of doing

4. Running to space and putting the ball out in front is different from chip kicking.

5. 42 one percenters to 29. Port were more desperate, tried harder and showed us up. A classic example is Petty racing down the wing has 2 options and kicks to Melk. Rosee busts a gut, spoils Melk, wins the ground ball, and sets up the ball flashing to the other end

6. If you kick continually to the goalsquare where 2 of the best intercept marks are lurking, they will probably outmark you. Especially if you are playing a small forward line. Of course, you can repeatedly do this for the last 2 years just to prove we are slow learners.

7. 16% goal kicking efficiency is never going to end well

Even the greatest optimist has to concede that this season is gone. Why did they rush Lever back when TMac was in the form of his life. Now Tommy is loitering on the emergency bench while Lever is just loitering and poking holes in the air.

Jefferson has to be allowed to play every remaining game. He leads and is prepared to run up and down the ground. Melk, thanks for your service. Lever and Salo have a break and let's see if there is anyone worthy of a game.

Stop playing JVR as a ruckman and let him settle into one role

The last 3 weeks have just been so hard to take

Goodwin in his presser made a few telling (IMO) comments:

1. He said 3-4 times that one of our key problems was our inability to compete aerially in the forward line, and that our third quarter spark came from competing better in that space. I’d be staggered if at least one of Petty, JVR and Melksham aren’t dropped for our next game as a result

2. He said that under pressure we “reverted”, and when pressed ok what that meant he mentioned our inability to lower our eyes or to be composed when kicking. Again, I’d be staggered if we didn’t see some sort of midfield change in our next game (whether that’s dropping someone or shifting magnets to lower the likelihood of Viney, Oliver, Trac and Rivers doing all the kicking inside 50).

IMO our biggest and most fundamental problem is that under pressure we cannot reliably execute our plans, and revert to habitual type, which is to rush or dump kick the ball in the hope we’ll subsequently lock it in or reset and go again. One major contributor to the pressure we are constantly under is our goalkicking - continually missing easy shots, particularly early in games and quarters, heaps the pressure on when our opponent inevitably kicks their own (which is happening far more now than in 2021-23 because our defence is nowhere near the level it was then, and is structured differently as well).

I think it’s time we get rid of the players who are thinking of wanting out or want out.

Starting with Trac and Oliver as the first two. We stuffed up with the contracts in some ways but how were we to know this would all happen.

This is group is severely disconnected and it’s showing. It’s time to part ways now with those two as a starting point. There’s zero doubt the ly loved this club so much but it’s clearly gone and they can’t move past it and it’s lingering in them.

10 minutes ago, Older demon said:

Well, that was a stinker and Goodwin knows it as refelected in his presser. He cannot be responsible for

1. Stupidity and complete lack of discipline. Melk gives away a 50 metre, Viney is just dumb. May undiciplined and McVee sucked in 30 meters out before the ball goes back to the middle. You cannot coach that level of stupid

2. Melk has had some success on taller backs, but Ratagolea had his best game ever today. Stop trying to take hangers and lead better, still give Jefferson a go for the rest of the year

3. 10 bounces to 3 indicates run and carry, something we don't do or are capable of doing

4. Running to space and putting the ball out in front is different from chip kicking.

5. 42 one percenters to 29. Port were more desperate, tried harder and showed us up. A classic example is Petty racing down the wing has 2 options and kicks to Melk. Rosee busts a gut, spoils Melk, wins the ground ball, and sets up the ball flashing to the other end

6. If you kick continually to the goalsquare where 2 of the best intercept marks are lurking, they will probably outmark you. Especially if you are playing a small forward line. Of course, you can repeatedly do this for the last 2 years just to prove we are slow learners.

7. 16% goal kicking efficiency is never going to end well

Even the greatest optimist has to concede that this season is gone. Why did they rush Lever back when TMac was in the form of his life. Now Tommy is loitering on the emergency bench while Lever is just loitering and poking holes in the air.

Jefferson has to be allowed to play every remaining game. He leads and is prepared to run up and down the ground. Melk, thanks for your service. Lever and Salo have a break and let's see if there is anyone worthy of a game.

Stop playing JVR as a ruckman and let him settle into one role

The last 3 weeks have just been so hard to take

Sorry. If it happens for one week he cannot be blamed. If it happens for 45 games..... its not you its me.