44 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

Effort but no skill or composure, same 5hit with this group won't change. Been this way for nearly 10 years. Had a great few weeks in 21 but we are what we are

Can we stop with this revisionist [censored]?

We had more than a great few weeks in 2021. We finished top of the ladder, so we had a great year from start to finish. We more than earned that premiership and were a dominant force all year.

"Good few weeks" is an outright lie.

43 minutes ago, Tom Dyson said:

Maybe the one silver lining that game reveals, Geelong aren't going to do anything of note this year, yeah they'll win enough games at taxpayer stadium to get into the 8, but they aren't really a contender.

That's what a lot of people said in '22

Just now, Fromgotowoewodin said:

To think Jeffo is going to make any significant difference is I think ambitious bordering delusional

It’s not about expecting Jefferson to fix everything, it’s about giving him a chance to take two or three marks inside 50, because that alone would be a major improvement on what we are seeing. I’d give him the chance!

Cannot believe we could not kick a goal in the final term

According to the AFL website:

Goal Assists

Geelong 10 (9 players)

Melbourne 3 (Fritsch 2, Kozzy 1)

So Geelong 10 assists in their 12 goals, Melbourne 3 in our 6. No teamwork, no ‘forward connection’ yet again. You can’t uncook cooked.

8 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

He played wing all game, wish they put him in the forward line for a bit. We had no one roving when the ball hit the deck.

Sorry, you are correct. Played on Dempsey, who had 26 disposals and 8 marks

1 minute ago, fr_ap said:

It turned when we finally brought quality individuals in to run the club. Jackson, Mahoney, Viney, McCartney, Roos, Taylor, Burgess.

They raised the standards and changed the culture, taught the kids how to play and how to play as a team.

The best teams and organisations have the best leadership. It shows over and over and over again. People downplay it, think it is easy, think it's overpaid. It's not.

Success has followed Fagan. The Cats and Swans have had great stable leadership for years. Hardwick clearly takes it with him where he goes, and he had Peggy. Some people have it, and most don't.

I think Goodwin has some good leadership traits but I don't think he is at Roos, Fagan, Longmire, Hardwick levels. More importantly, I think the rest of the club is sorely lacking leaders of the quality we had when it turned.

Until we make those appointments again...we won't return to the top. Hunter, Billings, Schache, McAdam - those are recruiting decisions that wouldn't have happened under Roos' watch, or Todd Viney's watch.

It's run it's course now.

Full scale admin rebuild needs to be done. Steve Smith is a revered leader and we can’t have him come soon enough.

Coach will be key. I gone cold on Longmire, I remember when he used to have Sydney play that slow boring footy that we are renowned for.

Edited April 4Apr 4 by GS_1905

1 minute ago, Lord Travis said:

"Good few weeks" is an outright lie.

The football equivalent to saying,

“They’re eating the dogs!”

Stay calm and get urgent. That what goody says.

Funny enough I now go to games calm because I've lost all expectations with this team.

1 minute ago, waynewussell said:

It’s not about expecting Jefferson to fix everything, it’s about giving him a chance to take two or three marks inside 50, because that alone would be a major improvement on what we are seeing. I’d give him the chance!

He’s a slightly taller Fritsch. If we deliver the ball quickly and accurately he might take a few marks, we don’t so I wouldn’t expect much difference to the forwards we had tonight

52 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

1.2

1.2

2.2

0.3

Our final quarters this year…unfortunately those training reports aren’t adhering to ‘super fit ‘ with those stats

Still hold hope we will improve as the season goes, but geez it’s hard.

Casey fell apart in the last as well. Seemed to run out of legs

38 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

I'm watching the coverage just to see goodys presser & what answers he will spew out

Just watch the last 2 weeks pressers won’t be much different.

It’s alright it’s alright everybody, we’re gonna stay calm AND get urgent.

4 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

I'm watching the coverage just to see goodys presser & what answers he will spew o

11 minutes ago, Greg Schneider said:

Lamb must go with Goodwin as well, absolute goose

He's a disgrace. Zero A or B graders brought to a team that was the defending champion in 2022 and then a top 4 fancy in 2023 and 2024.

Our purple patch in this game coincided with when we managed to stick the tackles ----- coincidence????

Don’t know why I watch these pressers.

I used to like them a lot more when out club was not such a rabble.

For the record, losing to the cats over there is no disgrace. The record speaks to that. What sucks is we gave them space all over the ground, about a million more marks, and we look like an amateur footy club going forward. Still. How can we have kicked 4 goals in final quarters over 4 games? With 21 against?

We need answers, and a plan, and a huge skill uplift very quickly.

8 minutes ago, Fromgotowoewodin said:

To think Jeffo is going to make any significant difference is I think ambitious bordering delusional

Must play him for 6 weeks to see what he offers, thats my take!

3 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

Stay calm and get urgent. That what goody says.

Funny enough I now go to games calm because I've lost all expectations with this team.

Honestly that guy, insufferable.

What does that even mean?

Edited April 4Apr 4 by ElDiablo14

I now agree with those who suggested that the 2x straight sets exodus from the finals has had a psychological effect. This team are playing scared. Scared that if they make the finals they will lose again. Scared and scarred!

I want to see the fumbling, bumbling blokes dropped. If a player misses a shot on goal that came at a crucial time, immediate ‘bench’.

And only May and Tmac attack the ball in air - our forwards tend to wait for the ball to come to them.

Since coming into the team, Van Rooyen has made almost zero progress.

Yes, he is an accurate goalkicker but his spectacular attempts to mark from behind a pack hardly ever succeed.

Also, he seldom gets into space, as Cameron and Dangerfield did all night, to provide an inside-50 target, and is hardly a brilliant back-up for Max in the ruck.

Goodwin is copping plenty of flak at the moment, perhaps deservedly, but looking at our forward options in general I think the players we have are just not good enough.

Geelong's defence won't have many easier outings than they did tonight.

With Fritsch's radar on the blink, Turner finding the leap from VFL to AFL a bridge too far. and Kozzie buzzing around without any impact on the scoreboard, I do have some sympathy with Goody.

Maybe a complete rebuild is the only way to turn our rapidly sinking ship around.

11 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

It turned when we finally brought quality individuals in to run the club. Jackson, Mahoney, Viney, McCartney, Roos, Taylor, Burgess.

They raised the standards and changed the culture, taught the kids how to play and how to play as a team.

The best teams and organisations have the best leadership. It shows over and over and over again. People downplay it, think it is easy, think it's overpaid. It's not.

Success has followed Fagan. The Cats and Swans have had great stable leadership for years. Hardwick clearly takes it with him where he goes, and he had Peggy. Some people have it, and most don't.

I think Goodwin has some good leadership traits but I don't think he is at Roos, Fagan, Longmire, Hardwick levels. More importantly, I think the rest of the club is sorely lacking leaders of the quality we had when it turned.

Until we make those appointments again...we won't return to the top. Hunter, Billings, Schache, McAdam - those are recruiting decisions that wouldn't have happened under Roos' watch, or Todd Viney's watch.

It's run it's course now.

The mind boggles how Fagan got the lions back on track last year after a 0 - 4 start.

That takes a special kind of culture and coach.

We seem to be breaking down going forward.

I'm sure the coaches will be on to it quick stix this week.

Get the broom out.

What I gleaned from the game

Geelong are a well drilled organised group who have played together for a long time and stick with the system. Goody out coached and I could not see any evidence of any sort of game style and organisation. perhaps the coaches are asking players to play a style they cannot deliver

We cannot stick a tackle or prevent the player with the balll dishing it off. Geelong tackled and hunted and their tackles suck. Too many times we had multiple tacklers and the ball still broke free.

The only times we looked good was when we took a chance played on and moved the ball quickly. Unfortunately this style also shows how poor our kicking skills are. More inside 50's and only 6 goals is sub standard

We have no marking targets up forward.

Geelong showed how to be patient, switch the play and play keepings off. That may be the plan but haven't got the composure at the moment to play that game/

Playing an extra man in defence isn't working and we don't work hard enough. Geelongs hald forward play high and gut run to get back and make numbers. The deliver with accuracy which destroys us having a loose man in defence.

I doubt Viney will see out his contract to 2028. Every kick is long to a contest or the opposition.

Goody doesn't appear to have a solution to the problems.

I’ve found a German bar in G-Town not far from the ground that serves dark beers so I’ll save my assessment of tonight’s loss for the clear light of day.

15 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

At least that game is over. I have no doubt we'll be back down there next year

Towards the end of the games James Brayshaw said something like ‘most teams hate playing at Kardinia Park’ which was unintentionally hilarious as most teams don’t have to play there