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jnrmac
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Some analysis on the AFL website:

No surprises here about accuracy.....

Most accurate

Jacob van Rooyen - 61 goals from 96 shots (63.5 per cent)
Daniel Turner - 18 goals from 29 shots (62.1)
Tom McDonald - 169 goals from 279 shots (60.6)

Least accurate

Trent Rivers - 9 goals from 31 shots (29.0)
Clayton Oliver - 55 goals from 145 shots (37.9)
Jack Billings - 112 goals from 291 shots (38.5)

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    Interesting data - surprised that frittata hasn’t accumulated better numbers than that, excluding his most recent 7-10 games.

    No surprise re Billings, who thankfully handballed to Sharp from close in rather than kicking a behind or OOBF

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    I’m pretty stunned to see Billings has managed to scrub his way to 112 career goals. I would have guessed about 2.

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    If you took out shots from outside 50 I'd guess Rivers would be off the least accurate and Gawn would be on it

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    13 hours ago, Sesto said:

    I’m pretty stunned to see Billings has managed to scrub his way to 112 career goals. I would have guessed about 2.

    Is that comment necessary?

    Such a cheap shot.

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    14 hours ago, monoccular said:

    Interesting data - surprised that frittata hasn’t accumulated better numbers than that, excluding his most recent 7-10 games.

    No surprise re Billings, who thankfully handballed to Sharp from close in rather than kicking a behind or OOBF

    Fritta is deceptively poor at converting - more so at critical points in a game. He has a great kicking technique which I think fools many. But he often misses a lot of set shots or just sneaks them through. He is much reliable when kicking goals in play.

    I suspect he imposes a lot of pressure on himself.

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    41 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

    Is that comment necessary?

    Such a cheap shot.

    It’s a pretty obvious and very tame joke Joyce.

    If only Billings could kick a few more cheap shots…

    That tickle your funny bone?

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    57 minutes ago, Sesto said:

    It’s a pretty obvious and very tame joke Joyce.

    If only Billings could kick a few more cheap shots…

    That tickle your funny bone?

    I like my jokes to be funny, even better if they're not punching down.

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    3 hours ago, Adam The God said:

    I like my jokes to be funny, even better if they're not punching down.

    Punching down. LOL. You’re obviously better at this comedy caper than me.

    He’s not a homeless person, he’s a professional footballer who’s a terrible kick for a goal. It’s okay to talk about it, even have a lighthearted joke about it.

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    Williams is stealing a living at the moment. Our kicking across the board is diabolical and I'm not sure his taped up footys are doing the biz.

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    Surprised it isn’t a mandate on our players that they measure and step out their run in for a set shot like an opening bowler measures a run up. Too many times we push the ball wide because we end up too close to the man on the mark.

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    I am still frustrated that the Demons don't employ a part-time specialist goal-kicking coach.

    There's plenty of retired Demons that might be able to come down to the Club and help.

    You've got David Neitz, David Schwarz, Garry Lyon, Jeff Farmer and even Allen Jakovich who could be asked?

    Edited by Supreme_Demon

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    If a 16yo can learn to do this...

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    professional AFL footballers should be able to reliably convert set shots.

    I don't think the AFL is as professional as it likes to believe.

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    23 minutes ago, speed demon said:

    If a 16yo can learn to do this...

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    professional AFL footballers should be able to reliably convert set shots.

    I don't think the AFL is as professional as it likes to believe.

    Agree 100%. The first club that treats set shot goal kicking with the attention to detail in technique, routine, and practice that it deserves will gain a huge advantage.

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    22 minutes ago, speed demon said:

    If a 16yo can learn to do this...

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    professional AFL footballers should be able to reliably convert set shots.

    I don't think the AFL is as professional as it likes to believe.

    Give that 16yo a 10kg weighted vest, make them run 2km, then make the sprint as hard as they can for 50m, then ask them to execute it.

    Now make them repeat that 20 times. Throw in being bumped and tackled throughout.

    How well would they go now?

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    I still don't understand why McDonald couldn't get a run forward in the second half of last year (except the first Freo disaster when he kicked two goals) while Petty was absolutely dying down there. It likely wouldn't have saved the season but sending Petty down there every week when he obviously had zero confidence as a forward was madness.

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    3 hours ago, seventyfour said:

    Give that 16yo a 10kg weighted vest, make them run 2km, then make the sprint as hard as they can for 50m, then ask them to execute it.

    Now make them repeat that 20 times. Throw in being bumped and tackled throughout.

    How well would they go now?

    Roll on Superleague Gymnastics when they have to do that with some anti-social drunks yelling at them over the fence.

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    Footy Classified just discussed this. They showed Goodwin Press Conferences where he repeatedly talks about the problem and they are working on it, then they showed about 5 of Max’s set shot misses. As I suspected, every miss is the same, the ball trajectory starts straight then veers off to the left. Why hasn’t this been addressed, seriously? It’s like having a golf swing that always veers off in the same direction, it’s more fixable than if you just always spray balls randomly. Matthew Lloyd was of a similar opinion and wondered why Max hasn’t changed how he holds the ball. He also was critical of Petracca’s high ball drop. Demonlanders have been screaming about these things for ages but nothing has been done. And the FC panel said this chronic inaccuracy keeps costing us games and finals.

    It is just another one of those mind boggling, reoccurring problems (like the poor midfield to forward connection) that seem to be fixable but keeps costing us games, year after year!

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    2 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

    It is just another one of those mind boggling, reoccurring problems (like the poor midfield to forward connection) that seem to be fixable

    Perhaps not as fixable as one might imagine?

    Also missing from the analysis was any recognition that these things can be as much between the ears. As Goodwin pointed out in the press conference, it's contagious. I can't imagine how much Xavier Lindsay must be dreading shots on goal given that he's missed every one he's taken so far.

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    47 minutes ago, bing181 said:

    Perhaps not as fixable as one might imagine?

    Also missing from the analysis was any recognition that these things can be as much between the ears. As Goodwin pointed out in the press conference, it's contagious. I can't imagine how much Xavier Lindsay must be dreading shots on goal given that he's missed every one he's taken so far.

    It’s technique and old-fashioned yips. And often a tawdry combination of both.

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