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  On 01/04/2025 at 23:22, dazzledavey36 said:

Hawks and Mitchell in particular seem so ahead of the curve on everything. Saw where the game was going so built a gameplan to exploit it. Taking their recruitment methods to a whole new level. Meanwhile we're four years behind with our gameplan and are desperately struggling to keep our own players happy.

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    Just said, he would only go to a premiership favorites...Hawthorn or Brisbane.

    Hawks i can understand - no issue when we were in a similar position, we were able to attract BBB, Hibberd, May and Lever, which were all instrumental in our tilt at the flag. So far they are mimicking our moves to a tee.

    But Brisbane just lost Daniher to retirement, were gifted a bunch of Top 3 draft picks and academy players in the past couple of years and now can essentially plug their only list hole in 1 season.

    I hate harping on about inequity but we have such a retched run with our list it just aint funny. Some in control, some out of control.

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      On 01/04/2025 at 23:36, GS_1905 said:

    Just said, he would only go to a premiership favorites...Hawthorn or Brisbane.

    Hawks i can understand - no issue when we were in a similar position, we were able to attract BBB, Hibberd, May and Lever, which were all instrumental in our tilt at the flag. So far they are mimicking our moves to a tee.

    But Brisbane just lost Daniher to retirement, were gifted a bunch of Top 3 draft picks and academy players in the past couple of years and now can essentially plug their only list hole in 1 season.

    I hate harping on about inequity but we have such a retched run with our list it just aint funny. Some in control, some out of control.

    I find it odd that Brisbane don't cop the same sort of scrutiny as the cats with their salary cap.

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    Zero chance we land him now

    I'd be going all in on Jackosn with Kozzy the carrot

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    Media doing their usual thing of getting all the good players on the move to 2 or 3 clubs, always those near the top of the ladder.

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      On 01/04/2025 at 23:40, The Taciturn Demon said:

    Isn't Allen's knee more buggered than Ben Brown's was?

    Yep, I wouldn’t be shocked if he plays more than 40-50 games for whoever he goes to. His knees are absolutely cooked.

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    The other part of this story is this will more than likely net them a 1st round compo pick which could see them holding 2 x top 5 picks.

    Might be a more attractive trading partner for Kozzie if freo get into gear and push into the 8. Presuming Jackson or any of their young stars are off the table.

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      On 02/04/2025 at 00:02, Random Task said:

    The other part of this story is this will more than likely net them a 1st round compo pick which could see them holding 2 x top 5 picks.

    Might be a more attractive trading partner for Kozzie if freo get into gear and push into the 8. Presuming Jackson or any of their young stars are off the table.

    Still curious if theyd consider M.Reid and a nice Pick for Kozzie.

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      On 01/04/2025 at 23:36, GS_1905 said:

    Just said, he would only go to a premiership

    I hate harping on about inequity but we have such a retched run with our list it just aint funny. Some in control, some out of control.

    It certainly makes me spew

    Even worse is we seem to sit by and just cop it

    Mac Andrew then the rule change back?

    Week in week out treatment of max

    Maynard off Scott free along with pickett’s treatment vs afl faves like Dangerfield

    The wretched treatment is retch inducing!

    🤮

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      On 02/04/2025 at 00:00, Clintosaurus said:

    Media doing their usual thing of getting all the good players on the move to 2 or 3 clubs, always those near the top of the ladder.

    What? Do you actually think Allen is going to move his family to the other side of the country because the media reported on the meeting Sam Mitchell had with him?

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      On 02/04/2025 at 00:34, KozzyCan said:

    What? Do you actually think Allen is going to move his family to the other side of the country because the media reported on the meeting Sam Mitchell had with him?

    The media engage with the agents, Allen is coming out of contract, has bad knees like Viney has a body with wear and tear beyond his age. Build a story meet Mitchell in a very public place and get a contract in terms of years that are generous that’s what’s at play here.

    However after being burnt by Nic Nat and Yeo in recent times we saw it with Barrass I think in full rebuild mode the Eagles will happily take the first round compensation to go with the Harley Picks and load up at the draft over the next 2 years

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      On 02/04/2025 at 00:37, KozzyCan said:

    With Hawks on the hunt for Allen is there any chance Mitch Lewis is gettable?

    My first thought as well 🤔

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    Red herring, this bloke ain't worth it.

    Cant stay fit, baaaad knees, and a bad look meeting with opposition coaches early in the season.

    Unfortunately he's probably the only decent KPF on the market.

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      On 02/04/2025 at 00:40, Pennant St Dee said:

    The media engage with the agents, Allen is coming out of contract, has bad knees like Viney has a body with wear and tear beyond his age. Build a story meet Mitchell in a very public place and get a contract in terms of years that are generous that’s what’s at play here.

    However after being burnt by Nic Nat and Yeo in recent times we saw it with Barrass I think in full rebuild mode the Eagles will happily take the first round compensation to go with the Harley Picks and load up at the draft over the next 2 years

    Media just report on what they are told. A juicy meeting between a teams captain and a rival coach is great fodder for them. Probably the Hawks themselves letting this bit of info out.

    I agree, Eagles will be wanting to keep Allen in the same way North wanted to keep Mckay and we wanted to keep Frawley.

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      On 02/04/2025 at 00:34, KozzyCan said:

    What? Do you actually think Allen is going to move his family to the other side of the country because the media reported on the meeting Sam Mitchell had with him?

    Well, no, but they do act as unofficial recruiters for certain clubs. Not us, as it showed with Houston last year.

    Wait until the AFL allow the Pies to trade more first round picks despite that putting them in breach of the trading rules.

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    How is this for some conspiracy theory.

    1. Mitchell meets with Oscar with no intent to recruit him.

    2. Leak the meeting to the media

    3. Oscar steps down from captaincy and creates a real icy environment for all players

    4. Harley already unsettled, final nail in the coffin

    5. Harley has already been ptiched by the Hawks

    6. Harley seeks trade at end of year.

    Mitchell the ultimate strategist wins again.

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      On 02/04/2025 at 00:00, Clintosaurus said:

    Media doing their usual thing of getting all the good players on the move to 2 or 3 clubs, always those near the top of the ladder.

    This is hilarious. We were at the top of the ladder not so long ago and only managed to attract discards like Dunstan, Grundy, Hunter, Billings, Schache, Fullarton, etc.

    And yet when the Hawks were down the bottom, they were able to attract players who are in their best 22 like Amon, Chol, Impey, Meek, D'Ambrosia, Ginnivan, Scrimshaw.

    Our list managment since winning the flag has been embarrassing. But let's blame it on the media.

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