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big changes are needed. if we go into next year with both Trac and clarry on the list it means we've only tinkered with the list

we need major surgery. a big player or 2 will need to be sacrificed

 

I've thought about this for a while, and I reckon we trade Trac and keep Oliver. Petracca has a lot of value still, but he is a prime offender in poor disposal inside 50. I think Oliver has other strengths (in and under, contested disposal, etc).

We can use Oliver as an inside mid, but Petracca's class comes from his explosiveness, but unfortunately in our side with so few good ball users we can't carry his rainmaker kicks inside 50.

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Just now, Chook said:

I've thought about this for a while, and I reckon we trade Trac and keep Oliver. Petracca has a lot of value still, but he is a prime offender in poor disposal inside 50. I think Oliver has other strengths (in and under, contested disposal, etc).

Trac can go forward though, Oliver is midfield or bust.

I think we keep Trac and move on Oliver. For me it's either Oliver or Viney and the club does not seem willing to move on from Viney despite being older and more injury prone.

 
1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Trac can go forward though, Oliver is midfield or bust.

I think we keep Trac and move on Oliver. For me it's either Oliver or Viney and the club does not seem willing to move on from Viney despite being older and more injury prone.

The issue is I don't think Oliver has any real trade value. He's much more valuable to us than any other club would give for him (specially Geelong). Petracca can go forward, and if we played him as a forward more that might be ok. But we play him too often as a midfielder, and that just kills us.

Viney will be retiring soon, so I wouldn't think we'd get anything for him. I also really want to avoid repeating the mistakes of the past, trading out Viney like we got rid of James McDonald.

4 minutes ago, Chook said:

The issue is I don't think Oliver has any real trade value. He's much more valuable to us than any other club would give for him (specially Geelong). Petracca can go forward, and if we played him as a forward more that might be ok. But we play him too often as a midfielder, and that just kills us.

Viney will be retiring soon, so I wouldn't think we'd get anything for him. I also really want to avoid repeating the mistakes of the past, trading out Viney like we got rid of James McDonald.

Oliver's value is in freeing up cap space. Even if we move him on as a salary dump that gives us cash to look at luring a free agent over at the end of next year. We also rid ourselves of some of the off field baggage that comes with Oliver and the unreliability of not knowing whether he'll go off the rails again.

Viney may be retiring but not too soon. He has another 3 years on his contract. The club blinked offering him that contract, should have been a year by year extension and put the ball in his court. Hopefully he can continue delivering.


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