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13 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

To make it all even, whatever a player earns needs to be included 100% in a teams cap.

If that means no 3rd party deals then so be it. We’re doing something similar with Trac’s YoPro deal. Just late to the party is all.

Absolutely no way that you can enforce it. That's why minor leagues gave up on salary caps years ago and adopted the points system.

Appears to work very well in my local league (Bellarine).

I can see where the AFL is headed if club spending is not reigned in.

The Premier League currently has no salary cap (they are trying to set one up). The NBA have no salary cap.

The wealthy dominate 

The AFL need to put strict rules in place.

Jack Bowes being paid his $1.6million over 4 years rather than one had he stayed at the Suns. Yeah, OK! 

Bailey Smith only getting paid the amount on the Club's books. Yeah, sure!

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    13 minutes ago, M_9 said:

    The Premier League currently has no salary cap

    It does have one in the sense that you're not allowed to spend more than you earn.

    This is what has got Manchester City in trouble.

    In simple terms the League is saying that the sponsorship fee paid by the Middle East owners is greater than what would be paid by an arms length sponsor.

    (Of course the more powerful/popular the club the higher the justifiable sponsor fee. You could even argue a higher fee on the basis that the recipient club will use it to buy "name players" that will enhance your sponsorship. Clear as mud but perhaps clearer than F1 team spending caps.)

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    21 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    It does have one in the sense that you're not allowed to spend more than you earn.

    This is what has got Manchester City in trouble.

    In simple terms the League is saying that the sponsorship fee paid by the Middle East owners is greater than what would be paid by an arms length sponsor.

    (Of course the more powerful/popular the club the higher the justifiable sponsor fee. You could even argue a higher fee on the basis that the recipient club will use it to buy "name players" that will enhance your sponsorship. Clear as mud but perhaps clearer than F1 team spending caps.)

    that was part of it, Manchester City initiated proceedings in relation to the legality/enforcement of Associated Party Transactions. Funnily enough both sides claimed a 'victory' as such after it was over.

    But they've gotten into trouble for a lot more than that (failure to provide accurate information, failure to comply with requests, breaching PSR, breaching FFP); will be fascinating to see how that case is dealt with and what the punishment will be.

    Feel a bit sorry for some of the smaller clubs that don't have unlimited wealth to delay/obfuscate the proceedings. They all took their punishment and moved on.

     

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    1 hour ago, Adam The God said:

    Judd as a Visy Executive. 🤦

    I don’t think he was hired as an executive.

    I do suspect they had him on ~300K per year to come into the office once or twice a week to play solitaire for an hour.

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    1 hour ago, jaydenh10 said:

    do you really think anything will come out of this? its geelong at the end of the day, also interesting port adl has been thrown into this f them they deserve it aswell

    “The AFL has concluded the audit and can confirm no rules were broken and no further action to be taken as it pertains to Geelong.
     

    Completely unrelated to the audit, we will be making sweeping changes to the salary cap system effective from today.”

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    From the Cat's website

    '...Last year [2023] with the Geelong Cats Foundation, the Club embarked on the most significant campaign in our history. Our Capital Campaign, Advancing the Way We Play, aims to raise $20m to support our future facilities, people and the broader Geelong region...'

    The Costa group promptly stumped up $10m.

    So there you have it.

    GFC players are people and they're being supported. Nothing to see!

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    There once was a club dressed in blue,
    Whose cap tricks were sneaky, it’s true.
    With numbers they played,
    Big contracts delayed,
    Till the AFL said, “We see you!” 😆

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    1 hour ago, Go Ds said:

    Hey! This is a family site! 😂😂😂

    DT is related to which character?
    A. Fox Mulder. 
    B. Richard Nixon.

    It’s never too early for politics. The truth is out there.

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    1 hour ago, Deepfreeze said:

    I don’t think he was hired as an executive.

    I do suspect they had him on ~300K per year to come into the office once or twice a week to play solitaire for an hour.

    Wasn't his title Visy environment ambassador?  Between training sessions he'd rescue sea turtles and recycle cans

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    1 hour ago, DiscoStu17 said:

    DT is related to which character?
    A. Fox Mulder. 
    B. Richard Nixon.

    It’s never too early for politics. The truth is out there.

    I've always FELT it is both.

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    https://www.theroar.com.au/2025/03/19/afl-news-concerns-over-conflict-of-interest-in-cats-audit-tiger-to-cash-in-on-flash-debut-curnow-back-for-blues/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJHYT9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHSa0P9-6Z8qNj3m-8P7xnPdwBp3de__2PTCK9Oubovg09VVGbhBEcQRWhA_aem_8HdL5Z3yW5SEV9si8A5iKQ

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    25 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

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    https://www.theroar.com.au/2025/03/19/afl-news-concerns-over-conflict-of-interest-in-cats-audit-tiger-to-cash-in-on-flash-debut-curnow-back-for-blues/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJHYT9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHSa0P9-6Z8qNj3m-8P7xnPdwBp3de__2PTCK9Oubovg09VVGbhBEcQRWhA_aem_8HdL5Z3yW5SEV9si8A5iKQ

    This is Just a complete farce. The AFL is so far from an even playing field.

    Has the integrity of FIFA

    They're really taking it seriously hey.

     

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    Absolutely wild for the AFL to hire someone from clubland and give them the responsibility of auditing the club you were accountable for.

    That’d be like hiring Carl Williams to be the judge on his own case. 

    Surely this is being reported inaccurately

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    12 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

    Absolutely wild for the AFL to hire someone from clubland and give them the responsibility of auditing the club you were accountable for.

    That’d be like hiring Carl Williams to be the judge on his own case. 

    Surely this is being reported inaccurately

    On the roar and fox footy.

    I don't understand Chris Scott is a very capable advertising executive.

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    1 hour ago, Brownie said:

    This is Just a complete farce. The AFL is so far from an even playing field.

    Has the integrity of FIFA

    They're really taking it seriously hey.

     

    Whenever an organisation investigates itself it will oft result in a dubious finding Brownie.

    No different here i'm guessing

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    2 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

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    https://www.theroar.com.au/2025/03/19/afl-news-concerns-over-conflict-of-interest-in-cats-audit-tiger-to-cash-in-on-flash-debut-curnow-back-for-blues/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJHYT9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHSa0P9-6Z8qNj3m-8P7xnPdwBp3de__2PTCK9Oubovg09VVGbhBEcQRWhA_aem_8HdL5Z3yW5SEV9si8A5iKQ

    Seriously?

    Surely the AFL media is all over this, oh yes, of course, they actually have the conflict.

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    AFL under Vlad, Gil, and presumably Dil had a longstanding mantra - don’t open an investigation into something you don’t already know the answer to

    It’s why Adrian Anderson got sent to Coventry for raising to spectre of ‘tanking’ 

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    Jeeelong being dodgy again??

    Investigating itself…what a suprise. 
    The AFL would never question the One City Club, too much to lose for that, even though Jeeelong’s salary “Cap” (doesn’t actually exist) must be at least 2-3 x higher than the majority of Clubs….

     

    At least this has made the Media, will anyone have the balls to investigate it properly…

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    You reckon Gerard Wheatley will touch this? Josh Jenkins? and all the Geelong supporting journalists?

    No [censored] way this will be all swept under the carpet!

    In exactly the same manner of the Tyson Stengle Disco Fiasco.

    Gets taken away by an ambo and there is nothing to see here!

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    Not that it will matter with the outcome i'm sure, but if everyone on D'land shares the Roar article with one or two mates it might get the algorithm going on the platforms you share it with such as messenger, X etc and it just might gather a bit of steam and head wind within general footy / sports circles.

    There's no way it will go anywhere via the mainstream AFL media as noted above.

    Unlikely but with a few extra clicks from a stack of D'Landers you never know!

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    On 11/03/2025 at 11:26, jaydenh10 said:

    do you really think anything will come out of this? its geelong at the end of the day, also interesting port adl has been thrown into this f them they deserve it aswell

    It will be akin to how hard the AFL went re Maynard/Gus… ie. pizzweak. But there’s no farm, oops I mean harm in trying 😉 

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