2 hours ago, Elwood 3184 said:

In Mentha’s case, he counts as a Cat B because he was an NGA player who nominated for the National Draft but was not drafted in the main draft. Tyntynder is not in any district associated with Melbourne, so how can he be rookied as a Category B?

Yeah, I was answering Dazzle's statement about Mentha

1 hour ago, ChaserJ said:

Looks pretty handy:

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/14831560/5f71d4d6041f0c0b84297b16

Agree - until he kicks it - they can literally go anywhere 

I thought he did ok in his cameo with Casey but he is a rough diamond that will need a bit of polishing and commitment from him to stay on course 

Does have some raw ability that’s a fact 

I don't know how the Demons can get him as a Category B rookie, especially due to the rules.

But perhaps, we can apply for a special exemption if we ask the AFL "really" nicely? 🤷🏼‍♂️

The lack of Indigenous players in the AFL currently and the fact that we missed out on Mac Andrew and seem to be unfortunately (unfairly) missing out on Tairon Ah-Mu may give us some sympathy from the AFL?

8 hours ago, Supreme_Demon said:

I don't know how the Demons can get him as a Category B rookie, especially due to the rules.

But perhaps, we can apply for a special exemption if we ask the AFL "really" nicely? 🤷🏼‍♂️

The lack of Indigenous players in the AFL currently and the fact that we missed out on Mac Andrew and seem to be unfortunately (unfairly) missing out on Tairon Ah-Mu may give us some sympathy from the AFL?

LOL 😂 sympathy from the AFL for the MFC 

More chance of Joe Biden winning the next US election 

Watched one of his Casey games this year (how many did he play?), and the kid was simply electric - all the skills you can’t teach - whilst seemingly having none of the learned ‘system’ traits. The commentators were beside themselves, so I don’t know how he would’ve have escaped other clubs attention. If he can be taught, and fit in/improve to elite levels, wow! 

13 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

Looks pretty handy:

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/14831560/5f71d4d6041f0c0b84297b16

Well, that was enormously fun to watch. 

I've seen him play a few games at Tyntynder after finishing up my time there a couple years back.

Very exciting to watch and seems to just make the players around him stand still whilst he zigs and zags between.

I actually don't think he is as good as Kayle Kirby who came from the club a few years before.  Kayle played some wonderful footy in the VFL before getting a game with the pies. 

Kayle was a better kick and only just made it where as Roy is far more professional and more likely to get the best out of himself.

He's a ripping kid, full of life and laughs to make himself known and enough dedication on and off the track to give it a crack.

 

39 minutes ago, Deeko2 said:

I've seen him play a few games at Tyntynder after finishing up my time there a couple years back.

Very exciting to watch and seems to just make the players around him stand still whilst he zigs and zags between.

I actually don't think he is as good as Kayle Kirby who came from the club a few years before.  Kayle played some wonderful footy in the VFL before getting a game with the pies. 

Kayle was a better kick and only just made it where as Roy is far more professional and more likely to get the best out of himself.

He's a ripping kid, full of life and laughs to make himself known and enough dedication on and off the track to give it a crack.

 

I’ve got a personal connection to Roy as well and that’s the common theme - he’s a top guy who is jovial and engaging but willing to work super hard. 

Comes from a broader friendship group of Kozzy which can only be a good thing them both having Roy at the club currently. 

Edited December 2, 2024Dec 2 by Dannyz

42 minutes ago, Deeko2 said:

I've seen him play a few games at Tyntynder after finishing up my time there a couple years back.

Very exciting to watch and seems to just make the players around him stand still whilst he zigs and zags between.

I actually don't think he is as good as Kayle Kirby who came from the club a few years before.  Kayle played some wonderful footy in the VFL before getting a game with the pies. 

Kayle was a better kick and only just made it where as Roy is far more professional and more likely to get the best out of himself.

He's a ripping kid, full of life and laughs to make himself known and enough dedication on and off the track to give it a crack.

 

Played against this bloke years ago just after he left Collingwood. Without doubt one of the most naturally gifted players I've come across at country league level.

Really sad that he had to retire from AFL level with his heart condition. 

If we want him do we have the pick?

I going to call him the chameleon

 

AS in Karma, karma, karma, karma, karma chameleon

3 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

If we want him do we have the pick?

We have one Category B rookie spot left.

He clearly qualifies as a Cat. B rookie otherwise Richo wouldn’t be talking about “getting the paperwork finalised” and JT wouldn’t have said “We’ve invited him to train this week. But nothing’s sorted yet.”

Roy was at Casey for a few games last year. He kicked a few goals against Williamstown and looked quite spectacular at times  but ran out of puff. He played a few more games during the remainder of the season and was billed as Kozzy's uncle but I'm not sure if that's the case or whether they are bound together in some way that allows him to be described that way. They certainly had some affinity to one another and if he trains with the club on a regular basis, who knows?

I think however, it might be a stretch to claim him as a Category B player. Surely, it would be sufficient at this stage for him to be on the Casey list with the opportunity to be taken in the next midseason draft if a list vacancy arises.

 

14 minutes ago, KC from Casey said:

Roy was at Casey for a few games last year. He kicked a few goals against Williamstown and looked quite spectacular at times  but ran out of puff. He played a few more games during the remainder of the season and was billed as Kozzy's uncle but I'm not sure if that's the case or whether they are bound together in some way that allows him to be described that way. They certainly had some affinity to one another and if he trains with the club on a regular basis, who knows?

I think however, it might be a stretch to claim him as a Category B player. Surely, it would be sufficient at this stage for him to be on the Casey list with the opportunity to be taken in the next midseason draft if a list vacancy arises.

 

That seems to go against what Ghostwriter was saying.

If you are correct and he is only on the Casey list and he plays well, we can say goodbye to him, as he will go before our pick.

There must be more to this if Richo is doing the paperwork and not the Casey footy admin.

It is still not 100% certain if we have an A or a B rookie spot.

As I understand the rules he is more likely to qualify as an A-rookie having nominated for but not selected in a National draft.  This would enable us to take him as a 'train-on' player and contract him under the SSP rules.  afaik the SSP rules don't allow for contracting a B-rookie ...

... the AFL is forever messing with the rules (and not communicating them clearly) and is good at 'exceptions' so who knows 🤷‍♀️

Edited December 3, 2024Dec 3 by Lucifers Hero

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Played against this bloke years ago just after he left Collingwood. Without doubt one of the most naturally gifted players I've come across at country league level.

Really sad that he had to retire from AFL level with his heart condition. 

I have no doubt the heart condition was one thing but I'm not sure he was doing that well transitioning to the full time commitment.  Note - that's just my opinion and I don't really have anything to back that up other then seeing him as a chilled out kid who didn't quite have the drive.

It's interesting that he has still been playing since and still going wonderfully showing off his talents.

25 minutes ago, KC from Casey said:

Roy was at Casey for a few games last year. He kicked a few goals against Williamstown and looked quite spectacular at times  but ran out of puff. He played a few more games during the remainder of the season and was billed as Kozzy's uncle but I'm not sure if that's the case or whether they are bound together in some way that allows him to be described that way. They certainly had some affinity to one another and if he trains with the club on a regular basis, who knows?

I think however, it might be a stretch to claim him as a Category B player. Surely, it would be sufficient at this stage for him to be on the Casey list with the opportunity to be taken in the next midseason draft if a list vacancy arises.

 

I believe he is the nephew of everyone's favourite back pocket Neville Jetta.  

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

That seems to go against what Ghostwriter was saying.

If you are correct and he is only on the Casey list and he plays well, we can say goodbye to him, as he will go before our pick.

There must be more to this if Richo is doing the paperwork and not the Casey footy admin.

I’ve met Roy before. Twice interstate at the airport, both times he was with Kozzie. Yesterday I didn’t recognise him so when he came over to say hello he reminded me that we’ve met before. Therefore I just thought he was that goofy cheeky friend of Kozzie’s. I didn’t know he was a player himself. Richo came over and shook his hand and said “all good for this week?” They chatted for a minute then Richo said, “ we’ve just gotta finalise the paperwork and that.”

Richo walked away and Roy looked at me with that raised eyebrows look that says it’s all happening. I said “is Richo adopting you? Is he gonna be your Dad?” We laughed and that’s when he explained the situation.

There definitely wasn’t any ‘Casey vibes’ about it. 

Brilliant news Dazzle!!!

 

Was researching feverishly last night to figure out if he qualified —  So I’m stoked to learn he does 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

16 hours ago, Adam The God said:

Slightly unique ball drop, but love how strong he appears in the hips, and that explosive pace is 🤩

I thought the same thing about his kicking action. 

15 hours ago, Sydee said:

Agree - until he kicks it - they can literally go anywhere 

I thought he did ok in his cameo with Casey but he is a rough diamond that will need a bit of polishing and commitment from him to stay on course 

Does have some raw ability that’s a fact 

Worth a punt as a Cat B for SURE!!! Massive X-Factor and if he could be anything either side of ledger but saw him at Casey LY & recall my notes “wish this kid was on senior list, AFL lvl traits” so I’m glad, it’s a free but being Cat B so smart by list team and gives Kos another close acquaintance to feel even more comfortable as well.

19 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I'm making this assumption based on zero information.

But I think we actually 'hid' George this year.

I think we invited him down to Casey to get some exposure and see how he'd go, then realise soon enough in his performances that he had AFL traits immediately which meant we then had to hide him again. If some remember he played a couple of earlier games then completely vanished without any fuss.

We've then told him not to nominate for the draft as that would have increased the risk of him being picked up by anyone in an open draft with the promise that we would be inviting him down to trial for us.

It now makes sense why we chose not match the bid on Riak Andrew and I have absolutely no doubt that we still wouldnt have selected Andrew even if he had gotten through to the rookie draft.

We deliberately kept that Category B spot open with the thought all this time that we would be inviting George down to then trial and have fitst dibs on him.

This is all guesswork on my behalf.

About time we kept things close to our chests (hidden intents).

16 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

About time we kept things close to our chests (hidden intents).

TBF we've been pretty good at that the last decade... 

2 hours ago, Tolstoys Nudge said:

Brilliant news Dazzle!!!

 

Was researching feverishly last night to figure out if he qualified —  So I’m stoked to learn he does 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

I have just quickly scanned the AFL rules and I think he may possibly qualify as an over age NGA or Academy Player or former Academy Player or even by decision of the AFL General Counsel on discretionary grounds looking at all the circumstances.

I guess we will know in the near future.

Don't quote me on the above, as it was a mere quick scan of some of the Rules on Rookies.

Edited December 3, 2024Dec 3 by Redleg

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

I have just quickly scanned the AFL rules and I think he may possibly qualify as an over age NGA or Academy Player or former Academy Player or even by decision of the AFL General Counsel on discretionary grounds looking at all the circumstances.

I guess we will know in the near future.

Don't quote me on the above, as it was a mere quick scan of some of the Rules on Rookies.

Could be the AFL’s payback over the Mac Andrew fiasco but that wasn’t really the AFL’s fault. The public was calling for change after the Bulldogs got JUH on the cheap.

 

13 minutes ago, The Great Pretender said:

Could be the AFL’s payback over the Mac Andrew fiasco but that wasn’t really the AFL’s fault. The public was calling for change after the Bulldogs got JUH on the cheap.

 

Don't think it's payback, as the rules are there for every team.

It's whether he fits the criteria or not.

Edited December 3, 2024Dec 3 by Redleg