14 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

The online edition of the Herald Sun is carrying an article by Mark Robinson in which Gary Pert explains that controversial comment about the club’s culture ~

"My point, that was taken out of context - I was saying we are dealing with player behaviour issues and I don't want the entire club being tarnished by that," he said.

"When I made the comment, we had won more games of footy in the past three years than any other team (in the league) and had recently won a premiership, and that we were doing a lot of great things. I was saying, the player behaviour issues had to be dealt with in that regard and not discredit the Max Gawns, Jack Vineys and Kate Hores ... I didn't want the whole football club being tarnished by a couple of people."

In what was a complex situation, Melbourne had to carry the can for its players being in the controversial and secretive AFL drugs program, which meant the club wasn't fully across all the information - and still isn't. It's frustrating, but it's reality.

"I did take offence, and maybe got a bit emotional, but I did take offence to a couple of players' behaviour tarnishing what I think is a club full of magnificent people," Pert said.

I’m sure this won’t satisfy everyone but it’s logical and consistent with the views expressed to me in recent months by some of the senior group of players.

In that article, Robbo makes this extraordinary comment:-

1. I don’t believe this accurately reflects the situation.

2. The comment more accurately describes public reaction to Robbo’s dismissal from AFL360.

10 minutes ago, layzie said:

It's a shame, I was really starting to use it.

it’s an effort to cut down on thinking around here

working a treat so far

This thread has gone berserk so I'm sure any comment I make will be three pages back within minutes and never seen again, but I'm going to go on record with my feeling about Pert.

1. Extremely capable and driven. Had clear visions for change to bring about success as a club at both Collingwood and Melbourne, and personally committed to making it happen. Surging financial positions and on field success came to both clubs under his leadership.

2. An 'excess of awareness of own abilities' (I am so polite) led him to not respect role boundaries and the decisions made by others, at both Collingwood and Melbourne, leading to a continuously accumulating breakdown of role definitions and an undermining of the crucial need for unity of purpose once decisions and plans had been set. I suspect he may even be addicted to creating change. This appeared to particularly affect the football side of things with both clubs experiencing unexpected and not fully justifiable slides after their premiership peaks.

 

As Sun Tzu said, to understand the weaknesses of anyone you must study their strengths.

7 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

This thread has gone berserk so I'm sure any comment I make will be three pages back within minutes and never seen again, but I'm going to go on record with my feeling about Pert.

1. Extremely capable and driven. Had clear visions for change to bring about success as a club at both Collingwood and Melbourne, and personally committed to making it happen. Surging financial positions and on field success came to both clubs under his leadership.

2. An 'excess of awareness of own abilities' (I am so polite) led him to not respect role boundaries and the decisions made by others, at both Collingwood and Melbourne, leading to a continuously accumulating breakdown of role definitions and an undermining of the crucial need for unity of purpose once decisions and plans had been set. I suspect he may even be addicted to creating change. This appeared to particularly affect the football side of things with both clubs experiencing unexpected and not fully justifiable slides after their premiership peaks.

 

As Sun Tzu said, to understand the weaknesses of anyone you must study their strengths.

Also, always attack a man/woman's strengths. No-one expects you to go for the strongest part of the fort.

Up the middle, that's where the action is, grab life by its little bunny ears and get in its face because that my friend, is living!

Edited October 31, 2024Oct 31 by layzie

Imagine supporting a boring club, at least there’s something always happening at the MFC to get us through the off season.

Edited October 31, 2024Oct 31 by Bombay Airconditioning

1 hour ago, demon3165 said:

Try again, can you show the article where Pert shopped Oliver around behind the football departments back?

Where did he say being the football departments back?

I held the view that the moment Pert started calling clubs directly to shop Oliver following Goody and Gawn speaking about how they love him and back him, a divide was created that could only end with one of Pert or Goodwin leaving the club. 

The caulfield race course fb group are happy

50 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

What a day huh.. anyone check in on @drysdale demon and @Satyriconhome...

Poor loves must be beside themselves that it's all just a media agenda once again.

Anyhow, it needed to happen. Thank you and goodbye.

Oh dear, had to make it personal again Daz, disappointed he' s gone, did some great things for club, thought it may be inevitable, give the club some clear air.

Glad he will be still involved with Caulfield 

Of course something more disappointing and inevitable is some of the ungracious [censored] posted by some.

 

6 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

I held the view that the moment Pert started calling clubs directly to shop Oliver following Goody and Gawn speaking about how they love him and back him, a divide was created that could only end with one of Pert or Goodwin leaving the club. 

Proof?

Just now, Satyriconhome said:

Oh dear, had to make it personal again Daz, disappointed he' s gone, did some great things for club, thought it may be inevitable, give the club some clear air.

Glad he will be still involved with Caulfield 

Of course something more disappointing and inevitable is some of the ungracious [censored] posted by some.

Nothing personal when I'm only checking in on my fellow compadre..

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

But did he actually say that, or journalistic license?

1 minute ago, Satyriconhome said:

Proof?

It's been very widely reported Saty, I know you're allergic to anything negative being said about the club, but even you have to admit this has been a mess. 

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Nothing personal when I'm only checking in on my fellow compadre..

I know it is Halloween, but smacks of Dracula checking in on the haemophiliac 

3 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Proof?

You want proof for an explicit opinion?  Or are you seeking proof for a matter which is not contested? 

5 hours ago, Storm Boy said:

I don't have any inside information but I believe the Melbourne Football Club will promote George de Crespigny to the CEO position. George is currently the Chief Commercial Officer. 

George has been working with the Melbourne Football Club for 11 years. George previously worked at the AFL for 8 years and the ACT Brumbies. 

George was a great Footballer for the University Blues Football Club. 

I'd like this. George was one of the candidates that PJ put forward initially...

A number of people in this thread with the false bravado of someone who thinks and sees the world in black and white.

I am glad for the decision that Gary seems to have made because it seems to have been made in the best interests of himself, the staff, and the best interests of the future of the club.

We couldn’t afford to wring change without that best interest and willing self-sacrifice. 

Not every tenure is holistically bad or good and those of you harbouring misgivings over half a decade are just as ridiculous as those believing ‘reports’ of his executive malfeasance. 

Life is more humdrum than some think it is, it is less sensational than Tom or Sam accuses it of being, and it comes full of good people trying to do their best. 

And with that, I say thanks to Gary and look to the future, and the next executive on a hiding to nothing in some eyes.

6 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

But did he actually say that, or journalistic license?

“And some of the others, like Christian and Clayton, were badly handled.”

Steven Smith. 

 

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

“And some of the others, like Christian and Clayton, were badly handled.”

Steven Smith. 

 

Saty thinking we're fine at the same time as the President and CEO are both gone, our two best players seriously considered leaving and we finished 14th. Nothing has changed in the last 15 years haha 

Are Sally and Angela long term supporters of the Dees if not what are they doing here?

Surprised it's been announced this way, rather than through the club.  9 hours behind so I have not read all reports etc.

But it's not an easy job, did most things pretty well, not everyone will agree.

A clean sweep at the top probably a good thing.

The inability of the club to show outrage over the Gus hit and ludicrous result, and then to have the players, shake that eff in C's hand. Made my blood boil still does thinking about it.

And then the debacle or failure to least to put a stop to the Petracca and Oliver trade rumours,  3 errors.  It's time.

Look forward people, 

Go Dee's 

23 minutes ago, TheWiz said:

Where did he say being the football departments back?

You could feel it coming from the moment he reportedly shopped Oliver around.

that implies he shopped him around, so that also implies he did that behind the football departments back.

Just now, Ted Lasso said:

Saty thinking we're fine at the same time as the President and CEO are both gone, our two best players seriously considered leaving and we finished 14th. Nothing has changed in the last 15 years haha 

The guy is delusional. 

I still remember him carrying on like he is now a week before Mark Neeld was sacked stomping his foot around telling everyone what a great coach Neeld was, and was openly critical of anyone here who said otherwise.

This is Saty at his absolute element. 

8 minutes ago, BLWNBA said:

You want proof for an explicit opinion?  Or are you seeking proof for a matter which is not contested? 

It is a quote, maybe he said they could have been handled better, didn't, say by whom,  slightly different, but doesn't attract the same number of clicks