The Draft Pick Upgrade Thread

[Pulp Fritschon 702]

Bombers would have to push bk to save burning 9 on Kako you would think. I guess they can keep it until draft night and if a bid comes for Kako they can live trade 9 then. 
 

Imagine we bid on Kako at #5, and they still hold 9. Before they match the bid they live trade pick 9 to us for a F1 and 28. 

[DeeSpencer 24,996]

8 minutes ago, Mickey said:

 

So this was the start of that info about essendon trading 9.

"Essendon will look at ways to push up the board from their No.9 spot to get ahead of a bid on Next Generation Academy talent Isaac Kako, but will also consider pushing back down the order or shifting picks into next year."

Trading up will be their priority but if we are a serious threat it gets very hard for them.

Richmond aren’t going to 9. North, I suspect they want the best tall and aren’t going that far down. Eagles tried the trade back thing a couple of years ago, I bet they want another gun mid. Crows tried it with Fish McAsey, doubt they do it again, maybe if they are certain Draper is available, otherwise unlikely. 

[Clintosaurus 7,724]

Think the bid for Kako will be the Saints. Tom Morris mentioned it on SEN this morning.

[demoncat 1,073]

4 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Think the bid for Kako will be the Saints. Tom Morris mentioned it on SEN this morning.

I saw that too, but it was also reported in The Age that we’re big into Kako with our pick 

I don’t think we’d actually want to take him with 5 but hopefully Essendon do 👀

[Travy14 1,879]

5 hours ago, BangBnagBang said:

Didnt Tommo come to us a free agent. isnt the rule, once a free agent your a free agents for life????

Yeh, i changed my post as I realised as soon as I wrote it.  But more so we won't get anything for him as he is to old and the contract he gets won't warrant anything

[2021 160]

Would we be likely to actually bid on Kako, on draft night?

[DeeSpencer 24,996]

2 hours ago, 2021 said:

Would we be likely to actually bid on Kako, on draft night?

The age report the other day seems to think so. I'm not as high on a few of the top mids as soon people are. We are desperate for forward talent no matter the size and shape and Kako has power, aggression, class and is a good ball winner up the ground.

I think he'd be in the frame

[bing181 9,155]

13 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

We are desperate for forward talent no matter the size and shape

I think you'll find the club disagrees with you. JVR, Petty, Turner, then add Fritsch, Kozzie and a couple of smalls plus Jefferson coming through ... workable, and they're all still young, or young enough.

Mids would be the priority I would imagine, if not KP defenders for the longer term (May, McDonald, Thomlinson will need replacing over the next year or two).

[Sydee 4,274]

10 hours ago, 2021 said:

Would we be likely to actually bid on Kako, on draft night?

I certainly hope that if Lalor or Tauru is still available at our pick/s we don’t end up with Kako 

[deelusions from afar 1,725]

Essendon don't have a competent small forward - they need Kako really badly.  Someone (us / Saints) could have them over a barrel if cards are played right.  Unlikely for anything to happen until draft night.

I imagine we'll want it known that we're keen on Kako and open to picking him but also looking at others (eg midfielders) at 5.

Will actually be an exciting draft!

[Davos 819]

6 hours ago, bing181 said:

I think you'll find the club disagrees with you. JVR, Petty, Turner, then add Fritsch, Kozzie and a couple of smalls plus Jefferson coming through ... workable, and they're all still young, or young enough.

Mids would be the priority I would imagine, if not KP defenders for the longer term (May, McDonald, Thomlinson will need replacing over the next year or two).

If the reported interest in Kako is true, it seems the club agrees with DS. 

I've floated it before, but I won't be surprised if Hannaford is picked if we managed to obtain another first round selection.

[adonski 11,085]

Our smalls excluding Pickett are very ordinary

[Lord Travis 10,553]

45 minutes ago, adonski said:

Our smalls excluding Pickett are very ordinary

Agreed. Small forwards a such an important part of the modern game too. Look at Brisbane in the GF with Lohmann, Ah Chee, Cameron and Bailey as rotating smalls. Bobby Hill the year before. Hawks had Watson fire during finals too. We need more small firepower up forward and it's a clear list gap for mine, especially if Kozzie ever leaves. Outside of Kozzie, we're limp. Guys like Chandler and Spargo don't hit the scoreboard anywhere near often enough. 

Not saying we chase Kako, but if there are any decent options with other picks in the teens and 20s then we should consider it.

[demoncat 1,073]

6 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Agreed. Small forwards a such an important part of the modern game too. Look at Brisbane in the GF with Lohmann, Ah Chee, Cameron and Bailey as rotating smalls. Bobby Hill the year before. Hawks had Watson fire during finals too. We need more small firepower up forward and it's a clear list gap for mine, especially if Kozzie ever leaves. Outside of Kozzie, we're limp. Guys like Chandler and Spargo don't hit the scoreboard anywhere near often enough. 

Not saying we chase Kako, but if there are any decent options with other picks in the teens and 20s then we should consider it.

Joe Berry looks a treat - would be a good get with a late first round or our second round pick 

[DeeSpencer 24,996]

8 hours ago, bing181 said:

I think you'll find the club disagrees with you. JVR, Petty, Turner, then add Fritsch, Kozzie and a couple of smalls plus Jefferson coming through ... workable, and they're all still young, or young enough.

Mids would be the priority I would imagine, if not KP defenders for the longer term (May, McDonald, Thomlinson will need replacing over the next year or two).

Kozzie’s the only high quality forward on that list and he’s pretty keen to get out of Melbourne.

We need to add a mature mid and draft another one with a decent pick at least, but forward talent is just as important.

[Moonshadow 17,620]

14 hours ago, Pulp Fritschon said:

Imagine we bid on Kako at #5, and they still hold 9. Before they match the bid they live trade pick 9 to us for a F1 and 28. 

Can they live trade to avoid burning 9 after the bid has been made by us or saints?

Is this rule different from last year?

I'm not up to speed with this. TIA

[old dee 23,561]

9 hours ago, bing181 said:

I think you'll find the club disagrees with you. JVR, Petty, Turner, then add Fritsch, Kozzie and a couple of smalls plus Jefferson coming through ... workable, and they're all still young, or young enough.

Mids would be the priority I would imagine, if not KP defenders for the longer term (May, McDonald, Thomlinson will need replacing over the next year or two).

Hmm I don’t share your enthusiasm for our forward line. One is an average KPF, 2 are backmen and Jefferson is still a long way off joining the senior side. I might add with the exception of Jefferson that lot didn’t produce a finals appearance this year. Where will the big change come from? 

[Roost it far 7,797]

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

Kozzie’s the only high quality forward on that list and he’s pretty keen to get out of Melbourne.

We need to add a mature mid and draft another one with a decent pick at least, but forward talent is just as important.

Hence we need 3 top 20 picks, 2 mids and the best forward available, whether that is big or small depends on the available talent. 

[Pulp Fritschon 702]

23 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Can they live trade to avoid burning 9 after the bid has been made by us or saints?

Is this rule different from last year?

I'm not up to speed with this. TIA

I am not sure of any rules changes. I know live trading happened on picks when clubs needed to match f/s in the past. Ie when we bid on Ryley West the WB shuffled their picks before matching. 
 
Would be good to know. 

[Young Angus 739]

Awesome mids please draft pick

[Moonshadow 17,620]

Or....

We bid on Kako, Essendon swap our 5 for their 9 + their 2025 F1. Maybe a swap of later picks in there too

We get 9 and have 2 x 1sts next year. Could use one to get back into this year's 1st round again

Just throwing it around for thought 🤔

[Oxdee 303]

11 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

The age report the other day seems to think so. I'm not as high on a few of the top mids as soon people are. We are desperate for forward talent no matter the size and shape and Kako has power, aggression, class and is a good ball winner up the ground.

I think he'd be in the frame

We are desperate for forward talent???? JVR, Petty, Turner and Jefferson. Please tell me where you see another tall forward sitting? 

[DeeSpencer 24,996]

2 minutes ago, Oxdee said:

We are desperate for forward talent???? JVR, Petty, Turner and Jefferson. Please tell me where you see another tall forward sitting? 

Please google Isaac Kako and get back to me 

[58er 6,106]

2 hours ago, old dee said:

Hmm I don’t share your enthusiasm for our forward line. One is an average KPF, 2 are backmen and Jefferson is still a long way off joining the senior side. I might add with the exception of Jefferson that lot didn’t produce a finals appearance this year. Where will the big change come from? 

OD you are not listening. You can’t produce a forward line in 5 minutes! 
2024 was an exploratory year and not the finished product by a long shot. 

You say you are not impressed yes 2024 was not great but another year on could be completely different and others with vision believe there is a good possibility that all being young and Harry not fit properly plus Jeffo Kossie Fritta Chandler maybe McAdam gets properly fit that it will be a big improvement next season. 
Too many Dees fans inc. D/Lers have no patience or vision. 

Each season is different and pre seasons etc. man e difference. You always have a glass empty I prefer to look at a half glass full and believe that that may be the outcome. 

U have a felling that 2024 will turn out to be like 2020 most Dees fans thought it was a waste. We put our bricks on our defence that year. I believe we will have our mids and forwards much more organised and the game plan with 2 new Assistants will be a positive. 

That’s why I expect us to bounce back wit much improved unity culture team spirit and game plans plus more advanced mids and forwards with their true ability to shine at this stage in their careers.  

[old55 23,086]

3 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Kozzie’s the only high quality forward on that list and he’s pretty keen to get out of Melbourne.

We need to add a mature mid and draft another one with a decent pick at least, but forward talent is just as important.

Maybe Jacob Konstanty could be a viable DFA option?