On 04/10/2024 at 23:01, dazzledavey36 said:

Yep. 

Here's the crew.

Haha that's the ticket.

 

So I take it that Pert was recieved that well by those in attendance?

  On 05/10/2024 at 00:06, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

So I take it that Pert was recieved that well by those in attendance?

lots of people spoke well of Pert. So im not buying the commentary around him trying to shop Clayton

How is he still CEO

I just don't understand how he isn't being forced out

  On 05/10/2024 at 00:38, seventyfour said:

How is he still CEO

I just don't understand how he isn't being forced out

will find out soon enough i guess. but lots of people spoke glowingly of him last night

  On 04/10/2024 at 22:58, FreedFromDesire said:

I'm in favour of Pert going, and I think he will by the start of our 2025 season, but to be fair here - Pert was given permission by list management to sound it out, then the board had a vote about trading Oliver some time later and the idea was voted against.

I wonder who "voted". The new doctor replaced Janette Kendall on 30 September. Was the vote after that? Did she vote - interesting first decision to make - with 7 members, she may even have had the casting vote.....

  On 04/10/2024 at 22:58, FreedFromDesire said:

I'm in favour of Pert going, and I think he will by the start of our 2025 season, but to be fair here - Pert was given permission by list management to sound it out, then the board had a vote about trading Oliver some time later and the idea was voted against.

Are you sure about that?

i have heard differently….

  On 05/10/2024 at 02:05, FreedFromDesire said:

Which part Sir? The parts I have heard as, reasonably informed, gossip are Pert is a fair chance to depart and the board voted down the Oliver trade. Pert sounding out the list management team was reported in the media, so perhaps that is the part you may know better on? I would take your word for it if so.

Initially Pert was flying solo, i was very surprised ro see him take the stage last night 

Should be cleaning out the Desk today 

Edited October 5, 2024Oct 5 by Sir Why You Little

  On 04/10/2024 at 23:33, Dee Viney Intervention said:

Modern journalism is more about opinion than fact. That’s a fact!!!!!

Most of the so called journalists are commentators. They would not know journalism if it bit them on the [censored]!

 

Edited October 5, 2024Oct 5 by old dee

The only way the club moves forward is if Gary Pert is removed as soon as possible. Brad Green and the board need to grow a back bone and end his tenure. 

  On 05/10/2024 at 01:09, FreedFromDesire said:

You know I've said multiple times that I think your friend Mr Lawrence has done some good throughout his crusade, but this is completely tiresome now when you make every single matter about your narrative. It does your cause no good.

There was no intention in my original post of crusading FFD. You mentioned the Board has "voted". If indeed it came to a vote I would be interested to know when that vote took place and who made it? It's a pretty big decision - right? Kate departed on 6 Sep and Janette left on 30 Sep (replaced by Angela). So we now have a Board of 7 at a time when the Board is itself, being reviewed externally. Critical decisions and complex timing. If this review is happening in October will the review examine the decision you say has just been voted on by the Board? Any light you may be able to shed would be appreciated.

  On 05/10/2024 at 01:09, FreedFromDesire said:

You know I've said multiple times that I think your friend Mr Lawrence has done some good throughout his crusade, but this is completely tiresome now when you make every single matter about your narrative. It does your cause no good.

And this from a person who runs a communications company.

  On 05/10/2024 at 02:05, FreedFromDesire said:

Which part Sir? The parts I have heard as, reasonably informed, gossip are Pert is a fair chance to depart and the board voted down the Oliver trade. Pert sounding out the list management team was reported in the media, so perhaps that is the part you may know better on? I would take your word for it if so.

Gossip, gossip, gossip ever heard the saying “Loose Lips Sink Ships” and undermine the fabric of the club based on nothing concrete at all. Pert spoke well at the B& F his only Blunder was saying No. 38 instead of Benny Brown’s No. 50, hardly a hanging offence. The club is in the middle of two Reviews where everyone will be scrutinised so I would imagine that he has been asking and answering some very intimate and harsh questions. So despite what accusations are being hurled around by those “in the know”, I thought that he handles himself quite dignified.

I should mention that I don't have "the knives out" for Gary Pert. Up until recently I thought he has done an excellent job as CEO of the Melbourne Demons.

I just wanted to keep Clayton Oliver at the Demons. Interim President Brad Green has said that Clayton Oliver isn't going anywhere, so I am relieved.

 

However, this news article (if true) does have me greatly concerned: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2024-tensions-between-melbourne-ceo-gary-pert-key-club-officials-coach-simon-goodwin-future-questioned-alan-richardson-problems-at-demons/news-story/464bd24e03de5dbad68e6920037dff36

 the board should do a Pert and give him permission to "explore his options" elsewhere I wonder how many takers there would be?

  On 05/10/2024 at 04:48, Supreme_Demon said:

I should mention that I don't have "the knives out" for Gary Pert. Up until recently I thought he has done an excellent job as CEO of the Melbourne Demons.

I just wanted to keep Clayton Oliver at the Demons. Interim President Brad Green has said that Clayton Oliver isn't going anywhere, so I am relieved.

 

However, this news article (if true) does have me greatly concerned: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2024-tensions-between-melbourne-ceo-gary-pert-key-club-officials-coach-simon-goodwin-future-questioned-alan-richardson-problems-at-demons/news-story/464bd24e03de5dbad68e6920037dff36

Well Sam McLure has been mentioned again about July concerns but it was just a repeat of his usual statements trying to stir up trouble. 

As for the action of approaching other Clubs  the Board and other personnel may not always agree but that doesn’t mean it’s wrong if agreed by the relevant committee/officers involved.

Plus last nights statement from President Brad Green indicates that a decision on Clarry has been made and he will not be cleared. Deep down I believe he is happy with that show of support and I have no doubt that with his strong mind once training commences he will get to work.  
When Clarry commits it’s a 100% all in and I see no reason for that to alter now that a decision has been made. 

The Board cannot pre determine findings in the Reviews and the staff and other stakeholders would be well served having the same attitude. After all that’s what you have a review isn’t it? 

  On 04/10/2024 at 23:01, dazzledavey36 said:

Yep. 

Here's the crew.

It's great to see gif's being used more. They say so much so simply.

  On 05/10/2024 at 01:09, FreedFromDesire said:

You know I've said multiple times that I think your friend Mr Lawrence has done some good throughout his crusade, but this is completely tiresome now when you make every single matter about your narrative. It does your cause no good.

To be fair it appears Pert's Oliver fiasco was shut down by a board that perhaps in future could of made that decision prior to the fiasco beginning. We seem quite disjointed as a club and the leaking is hurting everyone.

Did Pert do a speech cant find it anywhere ?

  On 05/10/2024 at 10:56, Rednblueriseing said:

Did Pert do a speech cant find it anywhere ?

Pert was not listed on the program in the same way as Brad Green was specifically listed to do the President's Address. Nor was Kate Roffey listed, but she spoke immediately after Brad. Pert was then introduced to handle the Retiree and Life Memberships Presentations. There was not a CEO's address as such.

Edited October 5, 2024Oct 5 by Hawk the Demon
Typo

  On 05/10/2024 at 04:48, Supreme_Demon said:

I should mention that I don't have "the knives out" for Gary Pert. Up until recently I thought he has done an excellent job as CEO of the Melbourne Demons.

I just wanted to keep Clayton Oliver at the Demons. Interim President Brad Green has said that Clayton Oliver isn't going anywhere, so I am relieved.

 

However, this news article (if true) does have me greatly concerned: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2024-tensions-between-melbourne-ceo-gary-pert-key-club-officials-coach-simon-goodwin-future-questioned-alan-richardson-problems-at-demons/news-story/464bd24e03de5dbad68e6920037dff36

After the year we have had & rumours around Trac, Clarry & Kosi anyone who didn't understand that we needed stability with our gun players is a moron & should not be at the Club.

Shopping Clarry around was the absolute last thing the Club & its supporters needed this week.

  On 04/10/2024 at 02:46, layzie said:

Do we know who is officially on that committee?

The only actual info out there is that it's Taylor (on his Linked in Profile) and presumably Lamb as he's the List manager. In other clubs it includes the coach, so probably Goodwin. And you would imagine head of the FD, Richardson. But other than that ... who knows.

I took it that when Gawn mentioned 10 people there was a touch of hyperbole - no committee of this sort would have 10 people and it's hard to imagine even who they could all be.

 

  On 05/10/2024 at 20:50, bing181 said:

The only actual info out there is that it's Taylor (on his Linked in Profile) and presumably Lamb as he's the List manager. In other clubs it includes the coach, so probably Goodwin. And you would imagine head of the FD, Richardson. But other than that ... who knows.

I took it that when Gawn mentioned 10 people there was a touch of hyperbole - no committee of this sort would have 10 people and it's hard to imagine even who they could all be.

 

I agree re the hyperbole. Todd Patterson would also be in the group - reckon he is doing a solid apprenticeship for either of Jason or Tim's roles down the track.

  On 06/10/2024 at 03:36, Hawk the Demon said:

I agree re the hyperbole. Todd Patterson would also be in the group - reckon he is doing a solid apprenticeship for either of Jason or Tim's roles down the track.

Kelly O'Donnell as well.