Trac hasn’t commented as far as I can see or put up anything re Viney Winning ..is to avoid any backlash from not attending? This is the issue with social media that it just can’t be a one way street to build/push your own brand. Understanding the reasons for his silence also disappointing 

As an aside, congrats to Jessie Hogan on winning the GWS B&F. If you get a chance, watch his acceptance speech - it’s great.

  On 05/10/2024 at 02:54, Demon17 said:

Me too.

A senior afl staffers a friend was saying how the league are worried they're not growing the game at junior levels . Fewer kids becoming rusted on fans. Why he asked me?.

I said night games. Kids don't go like we all did growing up to 2.10 games every week.

Real issue for them apparently 

This is huge for the game. My son played in a under 14s team this year. Of 24 kids in the team, most who have been playing for 6-7 years, I reckon less than 5 would attend games regularly despite loving the game. We have to accept that this is an entertainment issue, not a sport issue, and these kids get more enjoyment from doing than watching, even if it is sitting playing video games. That said, I would much prefer afternoon games to night games.

  On 05/10/2024 at 23:31, demoncat said:

I believe he said “we don’t boo at Collingwood” when the crowd started booing in response to another club being mentioned 

The irony 

It was in relation to Daicos getting 38 brownlow votes and not winning. He then went on to say they Congratulate Pat Cripps for winning.

It was a good moment from him, but unlikely to change Collingwood fan behaviour.

  On 06/10/2024 at 00:54, Demonsone said:

Trac hasn’t commented as far as I can see or put up anything re Viney Winning ..is to avoid any backlash from not attending? This is the issue with social media that it just can’t be a one way street to build/push your own brand. Understanding the reasons for his silence also disappointing 

Yeah but… “apparently” is working out with a Red Bull in his hand. Too busy to flick through his phone on MFC’s biggest night of the year.

 

Regarding Brad Green’s speech mentioning the midfield at the first bounce of 2025. I’m certain, someone like Rivers would be feeling a bit miffed. Hopefully he will use that as motivation. A leader who supports the club.

Edited October 6, 2024Oct 6 by H_T

  On 05/10/2024 at 13:07, goodwindees said:

I can tell you, that very question of, “why do the players love Goody so much” is definitely included in the review. 

Does anyone get the feeling that Goody's tenure is on shaky ground? I like Goody and believe he is a very good coach, but this is the first time I feel edgy about whether he will survive the review. Maybe he will see out his contract next year if we are travelling well and we make finals.

  On 05/10/2024 at 23:39, homsar said:

I don’t see the irony. The man is trying to change the culture of a fanbase. That’s admirable. Don’t think he’ll be successful though, that fan base has been full of bad eggs forever. 

He banged on about the 23rd man all last year. He loves it.

  On 05/10/2024 at 13:33, Hopeful Demon said:

The last two pages of this thread have [censored] me off for a number of reasons. I agree that it's pathetic to hang [censored] on the club at every opportunity but it's also pathetic to get on your high horse and tell someone that they're not a supporter when they critique the club's performances. We've seen the worst of these two extremes in this thread alone. 

Fwiw, the vast majority of my posts are positive but this is a football forum ffs.

There is difference between making a constructive criticism or critique and backing it up, rather than just whining and saying everybody who doesn't agree with me is delusional.

Agree it is forum where all opinions should be respected, sadly on here that is not the case.

My definition of a supporter, if you have an issue, stand up at the AGM or speak to the person face to face, not hide behind a nickname.

I spoke to Goody just before his speech he was definitely not slurring, but if it persists on here, one of the so-called media will pick it up and......of course give the whiners something else to whine about.

I know drunk people, I see them getting up and down constantly at the game,  off for a [censored] or another beer whilst checking their multi....true supporters.

 

  On 04/10/2024 at 22:39, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I think the AFL’s way of shafting us from a fixture perspective will actually please our fans.

Plenty of Sunday 1:10 and Saturday 1:45 games next year will actually suit our supporter profile more than your night games that we essentially had for almost the entire second half of the season.

Won’t help finances at all. We need prime time and marquee games still to keep financial credibility. 

  On 05/10/2024 at 23:16, dees189227 said:

Did I hear right. Did McCrae say at the fllth b&f that he is glad his supporters don't boo. Is he deaf?

The filth supporters are disgusting. They boo all the time ... and yell "ball" every few seconds.

  On 05/10/2024 at 10:13, Satyriconhome said:

Wrong, I ask them to back up their opinion, which they are entitled to, but most don't as they find it easier to incessantly whine, demanding others follow their opinion, because that is the only one that is right.

If other posters disagree they are told they are delusional, looking through rose coloured glasses etc.

Forums are for discussion, except for Demonland of course, home of the disgruntled supporter who craves agreement to their opinion

Opinion which is usually based on what some highly paid click baiter has written, and we must agree mustn't we, don't want to be seen as a nuffy.

 

In this thread alone you've told supporters to go support another team and told fans how to support and judging people who don't support the way you think is the right way

Maybe just let people have their own approach to following the Demons and you have yours

I understand the constant negativity is draining so I'm with you on that

  On 07/10/2024 at 01:35, DubDee said:

In this thread alone you've told supporters to go support another team and told fans how to support and judging people who don't support the way you think is the right way

Maybe just let people have their own approach to following the Demons and you have yours

I understand the constant negativity is draining so I'm with you on that

You mean the 2 line whiner, the whole time I have been on this board, that particular poster has never had anything positive to say about the club, hence my comment.

True, you can support in many ways, but it is all mouth and trousers on here, to use an English vernacular, never hear the  voices at the AGM or face to face when they have the opportunity.

If posters backed up some of their more expansive views, I wouldn't mind, but when you ask them to, the silence is deafening.

  On 06/10/2024 at 02:27, Mickey said:

It was in relation to Daicos getting 38 brownlow votes and not winning. He then went on to say they Congratulate Pat Cripps for winning.

It was a good moment from him, but unlikely to change Collingwood fan behaviour.

Knowing Collingwood fans' collective mentality, I suspect some will "boo" Crips next year because he stole Daicos' Downlow Medal.

 

  On 07/10/2024 at 08:50, Demonland said:

 

Rivers. McVee.  Chandler.  6th. 7th. 8th. A few votes only lower than Ed.  Add them into the mix and our average drops !!! This top 5 average age is not a damning stat for MFC. 

Last 9 years. The four musketeers have dominated our B&F. 

Clarry x4 

Gawn x 2

Petracca x 2 

Viney x 2 

(Gawn and Oliver tied in 2019) 

they are surely all going to be listed amongst our very best players ever 

hope we can resolve the issues with Clarry and Trac over the next 12 months 

  On 05/10/2024 at 20:34, The Jackson FIX said:

I know of a premiership coach (within the last decade) who shared privately (not to me, admittedly) that he was astonished Goody had kept his job, something along the lines of ‘he’s just too close to his players’… whilst he didn’t elaborate, the feeling was he was saying ‘fun guy’ who doesn’t know the line between coach/boss and friend.

Separately, I have heard from a player (directly) that goody is only the ‘much-loved coach’ to select players. If you’re a fringe player, you’re probably not one of goody’s ‘favs’ and you also then end up on the outer socially with him.

I respect what you’re saying, but there’s some critical issues with the above:

- the opinion of a premiership coach from the outside was that he was astonished. I’d say he hasn’t elaborated because it’s an opinion formed at long distance without a lot of internal insight. Doesn’t mean it’s not accurate, but it is less likely to be.

- I think the “fringe player’s lament” is a fairly common sentiment and present at all clubs to differing degrees. Dare I bring it up again, but I recall being at the home of a number of Geelong players watching their teammates play in a final & openly barracking for them to lose & get knocked out.

Edited October 8, 2024Oct 8 by Mach5

  On 08/10/2024 at 02:56, Mach5 said:

I respect what you’re saying, but there’s some critical issues with the above:

- the opinion of a premiership coach from the outside was that he was astonished. I’d say he hasn’t elaborated because it’s an opinion formed at long distance without a lot of internal insight. Doesn’t mean it’s not accurate, but it is less likely to be.

- I think the “fringe player’s lament” is a fairly common sentiment and present at all clubs to differing degrees. Dare I bring it up again, but I recall being at the home of a number of Geelong players watching their teammates play in a final & openly barracking for them to lose & get knocked out.

Don’t disagree with either comment.
 

What I wrote is by no means statistically significant, but interesting nonetheless in the context of @goodwindees comment about the scope of the internal review.

  On 08/10/2024 at 04:35, The Jackson FIX said:

Don’t disagree with either comment.
 

What I wrote is by no means statistically significant, but interesting nonetheless in the context of @goodwindees comment about the scope of the internal review.

Fair enough. It seems a strange thing to criticise a coach for - being close to his players. Particularly when that approach worked to the point where we won a flag.

Can’t help but feel Goodwin is in the gun and Lamb is in the gun; both appear to be carrying the stress of those under heavy scrutiny. But somehow our CEO escapes the microscope? When he’s chiefly to blame in my view, and continues to demonstrate such. I’m dumbfounded.

  On 07/10/2024 at 03:15, monoccular said:

Knowing Collingwood fans' collective mentality, I suspect some will "boo" Crips next year because he stole Daicos' Downlow Medal.

Well they booed Dom sheed. Yep agree, they'll boo cripps

  On 08/10/2024 at 05:17, Mach5 said:

It seems a strange thing to criticise a coach for - being close to his players

it would be professionally irresponsible not to dig a bit deeper in light of some of the stuff that has reportedly gone down.

  On 08/10/2024 at 05:17, Mach5 said:

. But somehow our CEO escapes the microscope?

His time will come. President and CEO going at once creates a huge hole in leadership capability and experience. Sponsors wouldn’t want that, the board wouldn’t want that, the AFL wouldn’t want that. Like him or hate him, he is important to us right now.

  On 08/10/2024 at 05:17, Mach5 said:

and Lamb is in the gun

We finished 10th and he has a growing list of ‘misses’.  Not unreasonable for him to be under pressure.

Our COO has been there for a hundred years - no immediate problem if the CEO has to toddle off.

  On 08/10/2024 at 01:42, spirit of norm smith said:

hope we can resolve the issues with Clarry and Trac over the next 12 months HOURS, OR DAYS

corrected time frame

 

Just smile and enjoy 

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