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16 minutes ago, Loose Men Everywhere said:

Why would anyone listen to Joe? He fired Neil Balme who went on to have a brilliant career overseeing multiple flags for multiple clubs (not as coach tho). Joe went on as thoroughly discredited businessman. He knows nothing about football. It is bewildering that Brad Green agreed to meet with him.

Neil Balme is apparently a great bloke and a great manager of people. However, his record as a coach was poor, and I am STILL bleeding over his waste of the 1994 talent. Gutnick fired him, we had an interim coach, and then Daniher was appointed and straight away got us to a prelim.

 
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The more we hear about the challenges Goodwin is dealing with in managing key players (Oliver and Petracca in particular), the more respect you have for him as a coach and what he has achieved.

Plus, the soft cap makes it unrealistic to sack a good coach with three years left on his deal. Even West Coast baulked at paying a tax for exceeding the cap and they have $50m in the bank.

 

This is great work by Brad Green

I suggest he talks to Peter Lawrence next. 

amateur hour

We do NOT need another diva around the club, thanks.

Go away, Joe. 


50 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

Neil Balme is apparently a great bloke and a great manager of people. However, his record as a coach was poor, and I am STILL bleeding over his waste of the 1994 talent. Gutnick fired him, we had an interim coach, and then Daniher was appointed and straight away got us to a prelim.

This reads like Gutnick & Daniher ‘lifted us’ to a prelim.
 

We made the prelim in ‘94 under Balme. 

56 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

Neil Balme is apparently a great bloke and a great manager of people. However, his record as a coach was poor, and I am STILL bleeding over his waste of the 1994 talent. Gutnick fired him, we had an interim coach, and then Daniher was appointed and straight away got us to a prelim.

I don't disagree about Neale, I thought he was a fine coach. However as you say Balme was a great manager of people, which I reckon is one of the coach's main functions.

I agree too that 1994 team have gone further after thrashing Carlton and Footscray we lost in Perth to the eventual premiers. 

 
1 hour ago, Loose Men Everywhere said:

Why?

Has failed to deliver in the past 3 years. In fact his coaching performance this year, selections, and match day efforts have been very poor!

11 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Has failed to deliver in the past 3 years. In fact his coaching performance this year, selections, and match day efforts have been very poor!

Thanks, I am not as across the inner workings as you are, but I wouldn't have thought burning the boats and starting again is the best option. Who would you reckon we could replace him with?


On ya, Greeny! 🤦

28 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

This reads like Gutnick & Daniher ‘lifted us’ to a prelim.
 

We made the prelim in ‘94 under Balme. 

With a list that was arguably better than the 21 list. It was a shocking waste, due to overinsistence on handball.

31 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

This reads like Gutnick & Daniher ‘lifted us’ to a prelim.
 

We made the prelim in ‘94 under Balme. 

PS The list in 98 was nowhere near as good. Apart from anything else, both Lyon and Schwarz had both suffered major longterm injuries.

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9 minutes ago, Loose Men Everywhere said:

Thanks, I am not as across the inner workings as you are, but I wouldn't have thought burning the boats and starting again is the best option. Who would you reckon we could replace him with?

Simpson

1 hour ago, BDA said:

This is great work by Brad Green

I suggest he talks to Peter Lawrence next. 

amateur hour

When will he talk to the members I wonder


Joe comes across as a complete nuffy when it comes to our coach's performance in 2024.

Does he know about us losing Gus and JS for the entire season before the first ball was bounced?

Does he know about Clarry's lack of a pre season, his issues during the off season and the injuries he sustained during the year?

Does he know about Tracc's season ending injury on KB?

Does he know about the injuries to key defenders Steven May and Jake Lever and to Spargo and Bowey?

We missed the finals by two games after all that, and also lost to four of this year's finallists by under a goal.

On that evidence Joe can't even explain why he believes Goody should get the flick.

If he feels anything for the club, why run off to a DH like Robbo to spill the beans?

2 minutes ago, Leopold Bloom said:

Joe comes across as a complete nuffy when it comes to our coach's performance in 2024.

Does he know about us losing Gus and JS for the entire season before the first ball was bounced?

Does he know about Clarry's lack of a pre season, his issues during the off season and the injuries he sustained during the year?

Does he know about Tracc's season ending injury on KB?

Does he know about the injuries to key defenders Steven May and Jake Lever and to Spargo and Bowey?

We missed the finals by two games after all that, and also lost to four of this year's finallists by under a goal.

On that evidence Joe can't even explain why he believes Goody should get the flick.

If he feels anything for the club, why run off to a DH like Robbo to spill the beans?

He knows nothing about football, or good business governance. It is bizarre why he is in this conversation, or worse, even being listened to.

19 minutes ago, Kent said:

Simpson

Are you serious? 


4 hours ago, Ollie fan said:

This is true. Everyone can laugh at him now but he did save the club. He also got Neil Balme sacked as coach and replaced by Neale Daniher, with immediate excellent results.

If it wasn't for Diamond Joe, the Dees would no longer be a club, its remnants would be the Melbourne Hawks with some hortibly garish colour scheme and founded in 1996.

Doesn't mean Joe G. Has a role to play at MFC today though, his time has passed. I think its just a clickbait article.

 

2 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

The more we hear about the challenges Goodwin is dealing with in managing key players (Oliver and Petracca in particular), the more respect you have for him as a coach and what he has achieved.

Plus, the soft cap makes it unrealistic to sack a good coach with three years left on his deal. Even West Coast baulked at paying a tax for exceeding the cap and they have $50m in the bank.

Goodwin is signed through to the end of 2026. So he has 2 years left.

He added 2 years to his contract after a tremendous win over Sydney in round 24 last year, and easily one the best periods of his coaching career - round 17 2023 to round 24 2023.

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/1413693/goodwin-signs-on#:~:text=By Melbourne Media&text=MELBOURNE AFL Senior Coach Simon,contract extension with the club.

I agree with you that there's no chance they sack Goodwin prior to next season, but a departure in 12 months would be the equivalent of Simpson being sacked a year before his contract was up.

52 minutes ago, Loose Men Everywhere said:

Thanks, I am not as across the inner workings as you are, but I wouldn't have thought burning the boats and starting again is the best option. Who would you reckon we could replace him with?

Justin Leppitch would be a possibility! And I dont know the inner workings, but IMO I think Goodwins coaching especially on match day has been found wanting, just in my opinion and plenty will differ, some will agree!

 

back to the future and not in a good way.

Why the [censored] would Green even entertain meeting Gutnik? What relationship would they have? So they have a private meeting and the first thing Gutnik does is go to the media. WTF. If this is seriously how the club operates no wonder we are in the [censored], seriously amateur hourimage.png.1c6e86a6d72963638d7a44992acd7098.png

Back in time Sydney wanted to replace Paul Roos as coach. The players staged a revolt. Paul Roos remained coach.

Simon Goodwin is popular with the players.

 


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