The Wade Derksen Thread

[Ugottobekidding 1,090]

16 hours ago, SthSea22 said:

We didn't have a back up for Max

Fullerton is not a ruck

Verrall is still raw

Verrall has been on the list for two years, that would suggest we have failed in the necessary development phase. Casey is a bit of joke at the moment.

[BAMF 4,192]

1 hour ago, Ugottobekidding said:

Verrall has been on the list for two years, that would suggest we have failed in the necessary development phase. Casey is a bit of joke at the moment.

Max Gawn was drafted in 2009. 

2010 = 0 games

2011 = 4 games

2012 = 0 games.

4 games in three years before he went on to develop into one of the best ruckman of all time.

Rucks take longer.

[mo64 5,658]

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

Can someone explain exactly WHY we ever got Fullarton??? Rucks at Casey, but not a forward! Whoever decided he was worth a list spot should be shown the door!

It's the same person/people who re-signed Schache for another year. However, according to many on here the decisions were justifiable because Fullarton and Schache were cheap depth, lol.

Hopefully the football department review weeds out the incompetent decision makers from the past 3 years.

[Demons1858 1,733]

Alot of drama is being made of late picks used on depth players, yes they have failed, but l am more focussed on getting and using our top picks such as windsor and kolt. houston is overpriced in my view also

[mo64 5,658]

17 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

Alot of drama is being made of late picks used on depth players, yes they have failed, but l am more focussed on getting and using our top picks such as windsor and kolt. houston is overpriced in my view also

They are not depth players if they can't play a role at AFL level, or aren't good enough to be selected. Meanwhile other clubs are picking up quality kids with equivalent picks, or recruiting players that fulfill a need.

[BW511 2,603]

When we played our best football, our Casey side was just as strong as our AFL one.

Tom Campbell shouldn’t make our AFL side better but having the best VFL ruck on our list certainly helps our Casey squad and fringe mids.

The strength of the entire squad is just as important as the AFL

[DubDee 24,852]

1 hour ago, BAMF said:

Max Gawn was drafted in 2009. 

2010 = 0 games

2011 = 4 games

2012 = 0 games.

4 games in three years before he went on to develop into one of the best ruckman of all time.

Rucks take longer.

Plus most of those 3 years were spent trying to give up the darts

[mo64 5,658]

13 minutes ago, BW511 said:

When we played our best football, our Casey side was just as strong as our AFL one.

Tom Campbell shouldn’t make our AFL side better but having the best VFL ruck on our list certainly helps our Casey squad and fringe mids.

The strength of the entire squad is just as important as the AFL

We had a strong Casey side with experienced Casey affiliated players and developing young Melbourne players. Those Casey players are leaving the club, and we are left with rejects from other clubs who didn't see themselves as VFL players when we courted them.

I'm sure Tom Campbell will be good at Casey, but why not go for a mature aged state league ruckman with 5-7 years ahead of him, and a hunger to become an AFL player.

[Tarax Club 3,814]

21 hours ago, SthSea22 said:

#24 Joel Jeffrey - Suns playing for Wanderers

#9 Wade Derksen - Nightcliff

#29 AMW - Nightcliff

 

For all those south of the Berrimah line. Nightcliff ‘Tigers’ in traditional yellow and black. Wanderers in the non-descript blue and yellow.

Edited Monday at 22:29 by Tarax Club

[picket fence 16,819]

3 hours ago, Ugottobekidding said:

Verrall has been on the list for two years, that would suggest we have failed in the necessary development phase. Casey is a bit of joke at the moment.

Second only to the galoots that run this basket case of a competition🤮

[Tarax Club 3,814]

18 hours ago, Demonstone said:

Trade period runs for ten days.  Let's not lose our lunch on the morning of day one.

[BScotti 177]

1 hour ago, mo64 said:

It's the same person/people who re-signed Schache for another year. However, according to many on here the decisions were justifiable because Fullarton and Schache were cheap depth, lol.

Hopefully the football department review weeds out the incompetent decision makers from the past 3 years.

i think there is a complete disconnect between list management team and coaching.  why bring someone to the club and never play them in the role in which they were brought in for....so many examples of this over last few years.

[Sydee 4,274]

4 hours ago, picket fence said:

Can someone explain exactly WHY we ever got Fullarton??? Rucks at Casey, but not a forward! Whoever decided he was worth a list spot should be shown the door!

Fullerton is not a ruckman and never will be - he should be told that if he is to remain on the list he needs to focus on becoming a KPF or KPD

Its really that simple - his 2024 was ruined by injury and not being played in the positions he is most suited to 

I’m prepared to reserve judgement on Tom until the end of next season hopefully he gets a good run with injury and they abandon the ruck experiment now Campbell is on the list 

[KozzyCan 634]

4 hours ago, Ugottobekidding said:

Verrall has been on the list for two years, that would suggest we have failed in the necessary development phase. Casey is a bit of joke at the moment.

Most ruckmen are pretty useless until their body fills out. Gotta give them 4-5 years before they're really ready.

[Ugottobekidding 1,090]

4 hours ago, BAMF said:

Max Gawn was drafted in 2009. 

2010 = 0 games

2011 = 4 games

2012 = 0 games.

4 games in three years before he went on to develop into one of the best ruckman of all time.

Rucks take longer.

I was more of the opinion that Verrall was sitting on the bench while Fullarton was getting more time in the ruck. Similar to Jefferson whose first year was basically playing second fiddle to Brown and Schace

[Sydee 4,274]

1 hour ago, KozzyCan said:

Most ruckmen are pretty useless until their body fills out. Gotta give them 4-5 years before they're really ready.

Luke Jackson says hi 👋 

[KozzyCan 634]

22 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Luke Jackson says hi 👋 

The key word being most.

[FreedFromDesire 784]

5 hours ago, BAMF said:

Max Gawn was drafted in 2009. 

2010 = 0 games

2011 = 4 games

2012 = 0 games.

4 games in three years before he went on to develop into one of the best ruckman of all time.

Rucks take longer.

Rucks definitely do take longer, but for context here Gawn missed most of 2010 with an ACL injury, and missed the entire 2012 season with another ACL. In 2011 he was primarily tried as a forward behind 2010 All-Australian Mark Jamar.

[rjay 24,689]

4 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

Rucks definitely do take longer, but for context here Gawn missed most of 2010 with an ACL injury, and missed the entire 2012 season with another ACL. In 2011 he was primarily tried as a forward behind 2010 All-Australian Mark Jamar.

They were also using Spencer ahead of him in the ruck at Casey...

[Demonland 70,664]

 

[Little Richard 6,219]

2 hours ago, Sydee said:

Luke Jackson says hi 👋 

Jackson was an anomaly. How many other rucks over the past 10-20 years were virtually ready to go like he was? It's no secret the majority take much longer to develop.

[samcantstandya 1,035]

21 hours ago, godees said:

Pretty pathetic by GWS not to consider a trade. They have heaps of depth in KP players, he has family reasons to want to be in Melbourne and they haven’t given him a game. Hardly a player to really put your foot down on. I hope he leaves next year for nothing.

We granted Neal-Bullen's request but GWS didn't. We are a compassionate club.

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,635]

He's got buckley's chance of getting a game in 2025 for BWS with the key backs and forwards in their arsenal.

Holding him for depth, please!!!

Let the fella go play, how selfish do you want to be.

[DemonWheels 1,014]

Hopefully if GWS manage to get Stringer to head up to them it will allow Derksen to move. Stringer would be yet another player ahead of Derksen in that GWS forward line

[DubDee 24,852]

Bloke is 23yo and has 3 kids?!

Clearly Can hit a target and can kick a goal