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Roosy warned Melbourne against getting Gary Pert into the club. 
 

Gary Pert and Kate Roffey are two of the worst things to ever happen to the football club and anyone who doesn’t agree with that has their head in the sand. 

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41 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

The way we went silent on the Maynard incident at very high levels was incredibly disappointing.

From Gleeson’s “I’m concerned he’ll miss finals” comment, the victim blaming by Collingwood, allowing McGuire’s comments to go unchallenged, the lack of public statement at the highest levels - big let down.

someone made a comment earlier that they’d prefer the board/exec work behind the scenes - sure, but they can do both. Working behind the scenes isn’t helping the MFC achieve all that much

the AFL not having counter experts (biomechanics, sports movement etc) to me displayed incredible ineptitude or a lack of desire to properly prosecute the case - either way our club should have been decrying that prosecution very clearly

we’ve been the good corporate citizen for a long period now - moments like that demand stronger action

it has left a very bad taste in my mouth that episode 

Can't agree more SU.  I also felt ill with the lack of public fight on this.

The MFC to often takes the softly softly route.  Certainly didn't work on this occasion.  Need to be more proactive and aggressive where needed.

The Pies & the AFL, lead by their outsourced (tied) media circus, were all out to get their mate Bruzz into the prelim and a GF.  They got everything they wanted and more!  Job done.

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21 minutes ago, 12345_54321 said:

Roosy warned Melbourne against getting Gary Pert into the club. 
 

Gary Pert and Kate Roffey are two of the worst things to ever happen to the football club and anyone who doesn’t agree with that has their head in the sand. 

Let’s take each person one by one. Each are entitled to be judged as individuals. Not a couple. 

Perty gets a good tick All that he has said ( except the base and we know the progress on that is not our fault. )

The flag and 5 plus seasons of improvement and consolidation, our membership plus the financial situation never been near what we are in finances are pluses. 

Kate has seemed of the last 1/2/3 years to be accepting of our fall backwards on the field and is unabashedly a Goody supporter. 
This is now a true test for her and the FD plus coaches plus Board on how they handle the strategy of our present situation. 
Action and leadership is needed to stir the pot and revive our on field game plans and refresh the staleness in many on our list. 

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On 13/08/2024 at 09:00, FearTheBeard said:

To sum her up, I was at the King's Birthday awards ceremony last year where she received an award. Everyone is very humble and happy to be there and dressed in black tie for the governor. She struts in, in a bright red suit like she was the best thing on the planet. I just reckon that says a lot about a person and who they actually are as a leader.

The Japanese have a great expression “Deru kugi wa utareru” that translates as “The nail that sticks out, gets hammered down”. It’s probably best to judge her on her actual ability.

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2 minutes ago, hardtack said:

The Japanese have a great expression “Deru kugi wa utareru” that translates as “The nail that sticks out, gets hammered down”. It’s probably best to judge her on her actual ability.

Based on the last 2 years her ability is clearly lacking.

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Just now, FearTheBeard said:

Based on the last 2 years her ability is clearly lacking.

Then that’s all that needs to be mentioned. Judging her on how she carries herself, is irrelevant.

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19 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

It's literally like 2 players who live out there lol Gawn and Lever. 

Then you have someone like Ben Brown who's all the way out at Moonee Ponds, Ed Langdon in Fitzroy. That's a hike for these guys especially. 

Majority of the playing list are based around bayside and East Melbourne area.

“ bayside “ is nearer Cranbourne and to say Fitzroy or Moonee Ponds are “ all the way out” is as ridiculous as calling it a “hike”.
Both those players  have been recruited to the Club and won a flag so their domestic location is not the Clubs  fault but their choice as we had Casey set up already. 

We all know that not all employees live adjacent to their work premises so let’s  not overplay this. 

BTW do you think all the Hawks players are going to live in Dingley  now once their cathedral is built. Not likely. 

We all know WCW and her views on Casey so she’ll always add her thrippence worth to this argument.  
Notice deafening silence also on this post other than Casey views!!  
Interesting !! 

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27 minutes ago, hardtack said:

Then that’s all that needs to be mentioned. Judging her on how she carries herself, is irrelevant.

lol never heard a more incorrect opinion in my life.

You are basically saying that it’s ok if the club financials are doing well but everyone in the club hates eachother and are sick of all the off field leaders 

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51 minutes ago, FearTheBeard said:

lol never heard a more incorrect opinion in my life.

You are basically saying that it’s ok if the club financials are doing well but everyone in the club hates eachother and are sick of all the off field leaders 

RUOK?

Where did I say anything that even slightly alludes to what you said?? I’m basically saying that how she dresses at any function has absolutely no relationship to how she might or might not perform her duties at the Dees. I was saying that you did not need to make mention of that… just discuss the actual topic which is about her performance at the club.

I’m not saying anything is ok. I know there are obviously issues at the club that MUST be addressed, but I’m not engaging in hyperbole that is based on rumours (everyone hating each other etc).

 

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Just be nice to have a president like Eddie McGuire who is happy to front up to the media.

Post 2021 grand final and pre season 2022, Kate was out and about singing the clubs praises. In the darkest moment the club has been in for quite a while now...Radio silence.

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1 hour ago, hardtack said:

RUOK?

Where did I say anything that even slightly alludes to what you said?? I’m basically saying that how she dresses at any function has absolutely no relationship to how she might or might not perform her duties at the Dees. I was saying that you did not need to make mention of that… just discuss the actual topic which is about her performance at the club.

I’m not saying anything is ok. I know there are obviously issues at the club that MUST be addressed, but I’m not engaging in hyperbole that is based on rumours (everyone hating each other etc).

 

You have stated "Judging her on how she carries herself is irrelevant"

I can't be bothered arguing with you if you can't comprehend how ridiculous a comment that is.

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4 hours ago, 12345_54321 said:

Roosy warned Melbourne against getting Gary Pert into the club. 
 

Gary Pert and Kate Roffey are two of the worst things to ever happen to the football club and anyone who doesn’t agree with that has their head in the sand. 

I’d rather my head was in the sand than up my own a***
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3 hours ago, 58er said:

We all know WCW and her views on Casey so she’ll always add her thrippence worth to this argument.  

Notice deafening silence also on this post other than Casey views!!  
Interesting !! 

Please explain. On second thoughts, don’t. 

And if you’re going to state something about me that “we all know” please @ reply so as I’m notified. I wouldn’t have seen this only I was in the mood for reading ridiculous posts. I almost missed this one!

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4 hours ago, FearTheBeard said:

You have stated "Judging her on how she carries herself is irrelevant"

I can't be bothered arguing with you if you can't comprehend how ridiculous a comment that is.

Do you even understand what “how she carries herself” means… it’s a reference to your “red dress” comment. I think it might be you that has the comprehension issue.

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My 2 cents on Pert and Roffey.

  • Pert: Never liked him. When he talks i feel he goes round and round in circles and doesn't bring anything to the table (like a Goody press conference). He's a CEO for hire not a Melbourne person. 
  • Roffey: Gees she was all up and about when we were up and about...fast forward to now and does any one know where she is? She's gone to radio silence. 

The issue I have with these two is that they will back Goody to the hilt because if Goody goes down with the ship, they have to go down with him. They three and linked together so tightly that they would rather move on other staff that aren't aligned to Planet Goodwin so the three of them are always protected. 

Could you ever see a time where Goody moves on from the club but Pert and Roffey stay? Not in a million years.

As for the home base...until I see something concrete i'm not listening to 1 word from out of Pert or Roffey's mouth on "there are so many parties and its a delicate process...as soon as we have an update you'll be the first to know" 

For all the talk of Western United's new stadium...sure ain't much going on out there...and it's 4 years overdue. 

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On 13/08/2024 at 14:55, DeelightfulPlay said:

Wow, y'all would hate Sydney.  I live in one of the nicer suburbs over SCG way and regularly see rats and cockroaches... I'm always impressed by how clean Melbourne is whenever I visit 😂

Jeez… is there anything that Sydneysiders can’t beat Melbourne at? Even have to claim the mantle for filthiest city! 

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On 14/08/2024 at 10:34, FearTheBeard said:

Based on the last 2 years her ability is clearly lacking.

In what way, I don't remember her lining up in the forward 50 for any games we have lost, you post without backing it up......and cue...

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On 14/08/2024 at 13:17, FearTheBeard said:

You have stated "Judging her on how she carries herself is irrelevant"

I can't be bothered arguing with you if you can't comprehend how ridiculous a comment that is.

You never debate, you post your opinion and never allow others theirs. As we used to say back in good ol blighty...all mouth and trousers.

Personally I don't want to hear from the Chairman unless there is something important to say. Same with Pert, off the field is just that.

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FWIW I have just emailed the following to the president, most likely it will have no impact but I felt I had to send it because i have had a gutful of this 

Hi Kate

I have never written a letter to the football club before but felt compelled to due to the current noise and rumours surrounding the club and I believe it is time to request some sort of response from the president and not just be content with the well written but standard company line message from the CEO Gary Pert. I have been a supporter of the MFC for 56 years and a member since 2002 despite not living in Melbourne since 1992. I was like all of our long-suffering supporters delighted that were finally able to break the premiership drought in 2021 and been delighted with the club's progress over the last few years. It is expected that the that level of performance cannot continue for ever and eventually there had to be a decline in form but what we are currently experiencing as supporters should not have been expected. The perception of a club in decline both on and off the field with ongoing concerns regarding key players and continual concerns around culture is something supporters shouldn't been expecting so soon after reaching the pinnacle of success.  The thought of our only ever Norm Smith Medalist wanting to leave the club and this being leaked to the media could be the final straw for many supporters and destroy the momentum the MFC was in becoming and remaining a respected club.  Watching Simon Goodwin having to respond to all this noise during his pre-game press conference was unfair and he did a sterling job but really the club should be doing a hell of a lot more to defuse this noise and provide the supporter base with the confidence that the club is united and in control and strong enough to not only survive this current mess but to actually go on the offensive and show the world that the MFC isn't the meek victim it has shown itself to be for the majority of my life.  I will continue to pay my family membership regardless but my fear is the next generation that we finally were getting on board will be lost forever.

 

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On 14/08/2024 at 09:46, 12345_54321 said:

Roosy warned Melbourne against getting Gary Pert into the club. 
 

Gary Pert and Kate Roffey are two of the worst things to ever happen to the football club and anyone who doesn’t agree with that has their head in the sand. 

Didn't Peter Jackson want Josh Mahoney to replace him but got vetoed by the AFL who installed Pert?

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1 hour ago, reynolds46 said:

FWIW I have just emailed the following to the president, most likely it will have no impact but I felt I had to send it because i have had a gutful of this 

Hi Kate

I have never written a letter to the football club before but felt compelled to due to the current noise and rumours surrounding the club and I believe it is time to request some sort of response from the president and not just be content with the well written but standard company line message from the CEO Gary Pert. I have been a supporter of the MFC for 56 years and a member since 2002 despite not living in Melbourne since 1992. I was like all of our long-suffering supporters delighted that were finally able to break the premiership drought in 2021 and been delighted with the club's progress over the last few years. It is expected that the that level of performance cannot continue for ever and eventually there had to be a decline in form but what we are currently experiencing as supporters should not have been expected. The perception of a club in decline both on and off the field with ongoing concerns regarding key players and continual concerns around culture is something supporters shouldn't been expecting so soon after reaching the pinnacle of success.  The thought of our only ever Norm Smith Medalist wanting to leave the club and this being leaked to the media could be the final straw for many supporters and destroy the momentum the MFC was in becoming and remaining a respected club.  Watching Simon Goodwin having to respond to all this noise during his pre-game press conference was unfair and he did a sterling job but really the club should be doing a hell of a lot more to defuse this noise and provide the supporter base with the confidence that the club is united and in control and strong enough to not only survive this current mess but to actually go on the offensive and show the world that the MFC isn't the meek victim it has shown itself to be for the majority of my life.  I will continue to pay my family membership regardless but my fear is the next generation that we finally were getting on board will be lost forever.

 

Good luck

i wrote a constructive but plaintiff letter after the finals - highlighting how we responded to Maynard - nothing. I know I’m not owed a response but I’ve emailed Gary Pert before (before the 21 GF and got an obviously personal response immediately).

I suspect membership may plummet next year

Peter Ryan’s article today states she was bewildered at our position at the presidents lunch last week. Well. Aren’t we all!

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