41 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

“He needs to acknowledge that when you sign a marquee deal, you're a leader of the footy club." 

Phil Davis believes Christian Petracca and Melbourne need to get into a room and work out a solution.

Bottom line is this.

And all other marquee players, past and present, i would think understood / understand this.  Yes, even when they worked their brand!

Some can even cook!

Been in a showroom client meeting since 5pm. Absolutely stoked that this ticked past 200 pages while I was gone!

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mark-robinson-former-melbourne-president-joe-gutnick-backs-calls-for-a-fullscale-review-of-embattled-demons/news-story/9636566a415bf3fefa9d5d4aad9b4cd5?amp

Gutnick’s concerns comes as the Herald Sun can reveal Petracca’s partner Isabella Beischer – formerly a lawyer at the Hall & Wilcox legal firm, is now the business manager of Trac 5 Pty Ltd.

She is the key driver of “Brand Petracca”, which reportedly is one of reasons influencing Petracca’s desire to pursue a trade to a big Melbourne club.

She became Petracca’s business manager in April this year, two months prior to Petracca being severely injured in the King’s Birthday clash with Collingwood

3 minutes ago, He de mon said:

Wait. He said that a friend visited him in ICU the next morning, when he couldn't have visitors for days after the surgery? That doesn't really add up.

Also, highly unlikely a surgeon would give a random friend that kind of information. Completely unprofessional if so.

I don't expect Kate to speak to tracs parents because he isn't 5 years old, but I would have thought she'd be talking to Christian on some level just to find out his issues. 

54 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

I bet you Jimmy Stynes would have , Eddie mcquire, I’m sorry club is in a mess and she is our president who sounded so disconnected or not across the detail ..

Jimmy was fantastic at getting people to donate but he oversaw some of the worst administrative and hiring decision the club AND league have ever seen. If it weren't for GC and GWS entering the league we quite possibly might have gone winless across two seasons, in his 3rd and 4th seasons as President.

Edited August 29, 2024Aug 29 by praha

If I'm unfortunate enough to end up in intensive care, I want everyone at my business getting in contact to see if I'm OK, even the silent partner that hasn't set foot in the place for 2 years.

That would make the world of difference.

Edited August 29, 2024Aug 29 by layzie

3 hours ago, layzie said:

I liked the Roffey interview.

There, I said it. 

what did you like about it layz?

Well, if he does leave, I will look forward to him becoming a member of the Jack Viney Made Me Cry club

23 minutes ago, He de mon said:

Wait. He said that a friend visited him in ICU the next morning, when he couldn't have visitors for days after the surgery? That doesn't really add up.

It's his partner.

3 hours ago, At the break of Gawn said:

So let me get this straight, the meeting at Gawn’s bar had someone from the public leak details and now this other casual drinks with players has been leaked. How dumb can you be?

The rustic Marion Wine Bar in Gertrude St, Fitzroy, was the scene for a peculiar little gathering of Melbourne players on Tuesday night.

Clearly, the players didn't seem to care - or they thought they couldn't be heard — by the table of serious football fans sitting at the next table.

The pleasant surprise seeing AFL players on a windy Tuesday night was one thing, their astonishment at what the players - clearly frustrated - were saying about Christian Petracca was another.

So much so, notes were taken.

Words such as "weird" were heard, and how Petracca's "weirdness" was accepted at Melbourne, but would not be accepted at another club.

Wtf. Are the papers seriously quoting some random punters at a pub? What kind of muckraking [censored] is this?

20 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mark-robinson-former-melbourne-president-joe-gutnick-backs-calls-for-a-fullscale-review-of-embattled-demons/news-story/9636566a415bf3fefa9d5d4aad9b4cd5?amp

Gutnick’s concerns comes as the Herald Sun can reveal Petracca’s partner Isabella Beischer – formerly a lawyer at the Hall & Wilcox legal firm, is now the business manager of Trac 5 Pty Ltd.

She is the key driver of “Brand Petracca”, which reportedly is one of reasons influencing Petracca’s desire to pursue a trade to a big Melbourne club.

She became Petracca’s business manager in April this year, two months prior to Petracca being severely injured in the King’s Birthday clash with Collingwood

History (and some great television) tells us it's often a bad idea to mix family and business. 

7 minutes ago, BDA said:

what did you like about it layz?

BDA it wasnt perfect but i thought she was confident in the way she spoke, even if she probably had no idea there was at least an answer for everything. No wishy washyness. At least in this interview.

She sounds, keyword 'sounds' like a decent leader. I have no idea what the truth is behind closed doors but I didn't hate this interview.

Obviously that depends on if you think the president needs to be in full dialogue with an injured player in intensive care, so in that case I'm going to get lambasted by the freedom fighters. Take your best shot gazorpazorps!

1 minute ago, KozzyCan said:

Wtf. Are the papers seriously quoting some random punters at a pub? What kind of muckraking [censored] is this?

The best kind! 😁

Just now, layzie said:

BDA it wasnt perfect but i thought she was confident in the way she spoke, even if she probably had no idea there was at least an answer for everything. No wishy washyness. At least in this interview.

She sounds, keyword 'sounds' like a decent leader. I have no idea what the truth is behind closed doors but I didn't hate this interview.

Obviously that depends on if you think the president needs to be in full dialogue with an injured player in intensive care, so in that case I'm going to get lambasted by the freedom fighters. Take your best shot gazorpazorps!

This is the biggest, most public, urgent issue facing any club in the league. It's embarrassing, distracting and disturbing for the players, sponsors, members and supporters.  The media and other clubs are picking at our bones like buzzards and she's barely across the details. 

She's relying on process and structure to solve a giant problem. Roll your sleeves up and get involved.  She could have convinced us she was heavily involved without disclosing specifics. But she didn't, because she's not. 

Sorry, simply not good enough. 

6 minutes ago, Dee*ceiving said:

The best kind! 😁

It's unreal. No names put to it. No evidence. Some [censored] took notes that some unidentified players think Petracca is 'weird'. How substantive. Maybe I'll call the Hun up tomorrow and let them know I heard Petracca was with RFK Jr dumping the dead bear in Central Park in his draft year.

11 minutes ago, Dee*ceiving said:

History (and some great television) tells us it's often a bad idea to mix family and business. 

Especially when the key family member becomes the product. 

Edited August 29, 2024Aug 29 by John Crow Batty

34 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mark-robinson-former-melbourne-president-joe-gutnick-backs-calls-for-a-fullscale-review-of-embattled-demons/news-story/9636566a415bf3fefa9d5d4aad9b4cd5?amp

Gutnick’s concerns comes as the Herald Sun can reveal Petracca’s partner Isabella Beischer – formerly a lawyer at the Hall & Wilcox legal firm, is now the business manager of Trac 5 Pty Ltd.

She is the key driver of “Brand Petracca”, which reportedly is one of reasons influencing Petracca’s desire to pursue a trade to a big Melbourne club.

She became Petracca’s business manager in April this year, two months prior to Petracca being severely injured in the King’s Birthday clash with Collingwood

And there you have it....

15 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

It's his partner.

Then why didn't he say that to begin with? Again, something doesn't add up.

Just now, He de mon said:

Then why didn't he say that to begin with? Again, something doesn't add up.

He did, I think the poster edited the quote. Don't know why.

20 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Gutnick’s concerns comes as the Herald Sun can reveal Petracca’s partner Isabella Beischer – formerly a lawyer at the Hall & Wilcox legal firm, is now the business manager of Trac 5 Pty Ltd.

Not sure about the "reveal" part as that's been up on her LinkedIn for a while now.

22 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

And there you have it....

Is "Theres internal bleeding and you could die" Standard operating procedure to reassure someone they're going to be ok pre-surgery? Or an attempt to traumatize and cast blame on the smaller victorian football club, so that the trust is broken forever? Tracc was discussing what was to told him on the Howie Podcast and that seemed a little odd.

This is such a sensitive topic to discuss I suppose, but agenda driven nefarious actors do exist. Sorting out who is who is half the battle.

Edited August 29, 2024Aug 29 by John Demonic

12 minutes ago, Dee*ceiving said:

This is the biggest, most public, urgent issue facing any club in the league. It's embarrassing, distracting and disturbing for the players, sponsors, members and supporters.  The media and other clubs are picking at our bones like buzzards and she's barely across the details. 

She's relying on process and structure to solve a giant problem. Roll your sleeves up and get involved.  She could have convinced us she was heavily involved without disclosing specifics. But she didn't, because she's not. 

Sorry, simply not good enough. 

Yeah that's it, bring it on baby. LET YOUR INNER DEMON OUT!

36 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mark-robinson-former-melbourne-president-joe-gutnick-backs-calls-for-a-fullscale-review-of-embattled-demons/news-story/9636566a415bf3fefa9d5d4aad9b4cd5?amp

Gutnick’s concerns comes as the Herald Sun can reveal Petracca’s partner Isabella Beischer – formerly a lawyer at the Hall & Wilcox legal firm, is now the business manager of Trac 5 Pty Ltd.

She is the key driver of “Brand Petracca”, which reportedly is one of reasons influencing Petracca’s desire to pursue a trade to a big Melbourne club.

She became Petracca’s business manager in April this year, two months prior to Petracca being severely injured in the King’s Birthday clash with Collingwood

Should say it’s THE reason influencing his desire for a trade to a big club. 

If you just wanted to get out of our club, whose direction you seem to dislike so much, you would be open to be traded to any club where you could see yourself succeed and be happy. 

The motives cannot be clearer or more shallow. 
Unfortunately because this club has no brand management skills, they’ve let a player and his partner control the narrative.

It is an absolute indictment on this club and its leaders, that they knew for months that Trac was unhappy, knew the dangerous “social management” path he was on, and yet let it fester and explode to the point that he has been allowed to publicly urinate on our club for weeks, all for the sake of his own brand! 
 

21 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

Wtf. Are the papers seriously quoting some random punters at a pub? What kind of muckraking [censored] is this?

They won't stop until we are back to 2013 standard.