1 minute ago, DeeZee said:

All this just does more damage to the Melbourne football clubs reputation.

It’s just another chapter in ugliness which would only deter decent players in wanting to come to us.

As one commentator said the MFC has a dreadful stink about it right now.

A combination of terrible luck and poor management.

The injury was terrible luck but I'd say everything else appears to be poor management.

Trac knows well enough that his brand will return if he lands at another big club with adoring fans ... it is all about money ... it is all about money outside of footy and after footy ... "let the place burn" gee if that's what he said its just terrible ... kids that adore him are listening to this and he just doesn't have the awareness it seems

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2 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

All this just does more damage to the Melbourne football clubs reputation.

It’s just another chapter in ugliness which would only deter decent players in wanting to come to us.

As one commentator said the MFC has a dreadful stink about it right now.

A combination of terrible luck and poor management.

This is why picks are better - if Trac goes like this then we need to start again with a new group as we're not going to be able to attract anyone of note.  Our kids are good - we add a few more the next two years and it will turn around.

Maybe there is a stalemate and radio silence from both player and club because the issues  (aka “grievances”) run very deep and touch on matters that are the subject of current or future legal proceedings and neither party wants to go there. I have no idea but I can’t for a second accept that the current strategy of Trac is the result of professional/paid advisers. 

2 hours ago, Jjrogan said:

This guy has no idea. trac5 has almost 500k followers. You reckon they are all going to leave?  Ok, boomer.  He can make $10,000 a post. He can post something once every 2 days and he'll be making more money than he does playing football.  Wouldn't be surprised if the goal is 1 mln followers, as much as it 300 games.  

His personal brand has 170,000 followers - the websites I oversee content for have around the same on LinkedIn. His cooking page making pasta and sandwiches has closer to 500,000, but I imagine the engagement rate other than in the past few days would be relatively low and no-one will give a stuff in a couple of years when he retires.

He's not being paid $10,000 by the Australian Egg Council to link to a post cooking a frittata. 

It would obviously be appealing to be doing social media stuff compared a grueling recovery process and slogging his way through another pre-season, especially after his serious injury, but I think he's being lured by easy cash now and not understanding his brand isn't all that special to begin with and is currently being tarnished beyond repair.  

1 hour ago, binman said:

The last sentence is such an obvious point.

I mean how many clubs want to spend a million bucks a year on a player that prospective teammates thinks is a diva?

I’d like to think so, but how much will JHF be on?

"Over the weekend and into yesterday he made it clear to the Demons that he wants to be traded with the five years remaining on that contract worth $1 million per season."

Does this mean he wants to be traded to a club willing to pay him $ 1 million over 5 years?

 

 

34 minutes ago, praha said:

What an absolute rabble of a club we are. 

You just know things a cooked when Gary Lyon squirms whenever he's asked something.

I'm pretty [censored] at Petracca in all of this but never has a club unravelled quite like this.

 Our sponsors must be thrilled.....this is damaging our club in so many ways.

20 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Do other clubs deal with Scully, Hogan and Trac type debacles or just us?

Wayne Carey. 

I would be very surprised if any club would take him on for anything more than $600,000

Once that becomes apparent, the desire to rip up the contract will diminish 

3 minutes ago, Macbush said:

I’d like to think so, but how much will JHF be on?

Not a million yet.

And he is 20, not a grown assed man, so you can forgive a bit.

 

1 minute ago, Bring Back Barassi said:

I would be very surprised if any club would take him on for anything more than $600,000

Once that becomes apparent, the desire to rip up the contract will diminish 

you need to factor in the side deals that some clubs can "engineer"

5 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

you need to factor in the side deals that some clubs can "engineer"

I’d be very interested to know what Bailey Smith’s next Cotton On contract looks like given the Cats number one ticket holder is their CEO and founder….

3 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

What a wonderful cricketer @The Jackson FIX. Imagine if he'd played 100 tests fully fit. But breaking in half and falling down one of the wide cracks that were opening up in the pitch can really do crazy things to a fast bowlers mind.

Not enough sticky tape in the southern hemisphere to get Bruce to 100 tests 

7 minutes ago, Skuit said:

His personal brand has 170,000 followers - the websites I oversee content for have around the same on LinkedIn. His cooking page making pasta and sandwiches has closer to 500,000, but I imagine the engagement rate other than in the past few days would be relatively low and no-one will give a stuff in a couple of years when he retires.

He's not being paid $10,000 by the Australian Egg Council to link to a post cooking a frittata. 

It would obviously be appealing to be doing social media stuff compared a grueling recovery process and slogging his way through another pre-season, especially after his serious injury, but I think he's being lured by easy cash now and not understanding his brand isn't all that special to begin with and is currently being tarnished beyond repair.  

Actually his engagement rate is through the roof right now. Go to the comment section. People are asking to keep football off his page.  His last recipe shares are massive compared with previous post.  (dumplings).     His personal page is not the issue here,  joining the dots it's the entity that is trac5. Hear you on the nominal amount to sponsor him. It's a range for sure.  Yes this is easy cash, you may not find his brand all that special but he'd  be in the top 10 of recipe creators in Australia I'd guess. If there are social media brand experts here I defer to them. Can't believe everything Mr google tells me.  

2 minutes ago, Jjrogan said:

Actually his engagement rate is through the roof right now. Go to the comment section. People are asking to keep football off his page.  His last recipe shares are massive compared with previous post.  (dumplings).     His personal page is not the issue here,  joining the dots it's the entity that is trac5. Hear you on the nominal amount to sponsor him. It's a range for sure.  Yes this is easy cash, you may not find his brand all that special but he'd  be in the top 10 of recipe creators in Australia I'd guess. If there are social media brand experts here I defer to them. Can't believe everything Mr google tells me.  

I started eating a salmon dish he recommended and it called for a lot of butter. Then recently I was diagnosed with high cholesterol and have since gone on medication. I will be suing his brand I think

4 minutes ago, Jjrogan said:

it's the entity that is trac5

Jamie Elliot and Adam Cerra very nervous now apparently 

59 minutes ago, DeesignerAU said:

I went from 1 to 7 pretty much, with occasional pangs of 6.

4 minutes ago, Jjrogan said:

Actually his engagement rate is through the roof right now. Go to the comment section. People are asking to keep football off his page.  His last recipe shares are massive compared with previous post.  (dumplings).     His personal page is not the issue here,  joining the dots it's the entity that is trac5. Hear you on the nominal amount to sponsor him. It's a range for sure.  Yes this is easy cash, you may not find his brand all that special but he'd  be in the top 10 of recipe creators in Australia I'd guess. If there are social media brand experts here I defer to them. Can't believe everything Mr google tells me.  

As someone who works in this space I would say that without his footy talent his cooking stuff is pretty average at best. He’s not particularly charismatic on camera and offers really nothing unique or compelling in those videos aside from “footy player who also cooks food.” Without the footy, “brand Petracca” is pretty bland.

20 hours ago, Demonland said:

Jesse Hogan - 484 pages

Luke Jackson - 324 pages

Jack Watts - 275 pages

Christian Petracca - 127 pages and counting with at least 7 weeks to go

Tom $cully???

Christian Petracca could force his way out of the Demons through this 'nuclear option' 😮 Jon Ralph 💩says Trac could go nuclear and issue a GRIEVANCE COMPLAINT VIA THE PLAYERS COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT CBA  

ALLEGE MELBOURNE FC BREACHED ITS DUTY OF CARE 

HE WANTS TO GO TO COLLINGWOOD OR CARLTON AS BIG CLUBS 

📺Watch #MidweekTackle on Ch. 504 or stream via @kayosports: bit.ly/3Tq7pcR

Just now, Jaded No More said:

So the rest of our players who recommitted are all dummies managed by clowns who know nothing? 
Because half our list share the same management team that Trac is with. 

He's the only one that is brand conscious and hosts his own cooking segments and wants 1m followers for cooking pasta masterpieces.

I find that Barrett article disgusting. One thing for us fans to have opinions without knowing the full story but for a brazen character attack like that to come from the AFL media is vile. 

Doesn't even matter if there might elements of truth, Trac has been one of our own and is clearly going through some sort of identity crisis in the wake of his life threatening injury.

R U ok day in 2 weeks. Can't see how anything he's done has justified that trash. 

 

Just now, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

He's the only one that is brand conscious and hosts his own cooking segments and wants 1m followers for cooking pasta masterpieces.

But he’s not the only player who would do due diligence before re committing to the club. 

2 hours ago, cookieboc said:

Is he ****ty with the club for the way they handled the injury on game day?

I have no doubt that the club doctors followed procedure on the day. I have no doubt they did all assessments and procedures before sending him back on the field. 

I would imagine* that while he was off the field the doctors would have been going by what CP5 was telling them. Was the pain located to one spot? was the pain of the ribs more than the pain of the lung/ spleen? I have no doubt that the conducted other assessments, but mostly they would have been based on what CP5 was telling them. The docs dont have the luxury of scanners etc on the boundary/ in the rooms. 

I possibly came off with a 10/10 pain, perhaps that subsided after a short time to a 4/10 pain, and the conversation of giving him pain relief came up. perhaps after this the pain became a 2/10 and CP5 was sure he could go on and play. I imagine he ran at 50%- 80%-100%, did squat jumps and whatever other warm up exercises required before saying he was right to go back on. I imagine that the docs are assessing him the entire time too. 

I imagine after a short time, body contact, running at 110% the pain came back to being 10/10 and he came off the ground.

I think I read that it was a second round of scans at the hospital the the true extent of his injuries came to light.

Do i think the club/ docs wish they could have done things differently, yep

Do I think that CP5 wish he could have done things differently, yep.

There was a review of what happened and the AFL have ticked it off. Could CP5 request a review and make changes to the rules for injured players across the league to make change, yep he could, and he still might be the catalyst for this .

Has he been through a traumatic experience, absolutely, but reading through the [censored] tonight, it feels like he is more traumatised by his families reaction to his situation and that he "may not have made it" than he is to the injury itself. 

Was the clubs reaction the same as his families?

Did they stay at the hospital/ follow up with visits/ calls/ texts? who knows, doesnt sound like they went above and beyond. Should they go above and beyond, [censored] yeah, blow smoke up the guys [censored], do whatever is needed to make him feel loved.

Do I believe that he would take a trade right now if it were possible? yep

Do I believe he will only go to a big Vic club? no, this is media hyperbole

Do I believe he is only thinking of his brand? nope, this is media hyperbole

Do I believe his injury and the reaction by the club to be the catalyst of a bunch of things that have happened this year, to his current feeling? yep

Do I believe that he loves the players/ coaches and club? yep

Do I believe there will be monumental change within the club structure/ coaches etc? yep

Do I believe that this will be sorted by the club and he will be in red and blue next year? yep

Do I believe that he will finish his career in the red and blue? depends what happens this off season

Do I believe this will impact our recruiting this year? yep

Will I love this club forever with or without CP5? [censored] oath

 

Go dees

* imagine, thats all I can do. im not an AFL player, involved in a club, or a doctor

 

 

I watched replay of the 2nd quarter of the Kings Birthday clash with the Pies. 

Tracc returned to the ground after JVRs goal, and walked up to join the centre square trio of Max, Oliver and Pickett. 

Max gave him the faintest low-five; no contact or reaction from the other 2.

It appeared no-one bothered to ask him how he was.