2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

 

Why would you want to stay to play out your remaining prime years at a club that’s clearly in decline?

Genuine question, are the Pies not in decline?

Old list, no first round pick. What makes them more lucrative than Melbourne?

17 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

He’s a big star of the competition as it is. If the reports are true, I think it’s more about increasing his “brand” and social media presence, and going to one of the big Melbourne clubs would do that. 

His brand is already one of if not the biggest in the AFL. I don't get this part of it

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

 

Well Said Garry

FIX THE PROBLEMS INSIDE….

Do not Trade…

2 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

What part of this being played out in the media screams personal and confidential to you? 

Yep, exactly. He could send an open letter via the club or his management to request privacy, that he is dealing with personal and mental struggles. And that he will speak when ready.

Instead, leak here leak there ... Keep quiet and head in the sand.

9 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Remember when we nearly had Tracc killed I said we needed to announce an investigation, find some room for improvements in our medical protocols and show Tracc a little love. Did that happen - no.

I’ve also been saying all year Gawn’s time was up and it was well and truly time for a fresh captain. Nope, didn’t happen.

I don’t agree with what he’s done but maybe Tracc will change his tune if we put someone in to the head of footy or CEO roles who represents a fresh voice with new ideas.

Why would you want to stay to play out your remaining prime years at a club that’s clearly in decline?

Agree 100% with this.

36 minutes ago, The Stigga said:

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!!???

I was going to say earlier that Trac has gone full Hollywood Petracca and NWO.

This time last year,Goodwin said on numerous occasions "we won't trade Brodie Grundy under any circumstances"

This trade will get done as was Grundy's.

As long as we keep Clarry and Viney,i'm happy to lose Trac,he's a self centrered sook who runs his own selfish agenda in a team environment,a culture killer or the 10% we had left.

Let's get the best deal and move on,he's 29 and won't return to his best after this mental trauma.

 

 

Edited August 26, 20241 yr by Jack7

5 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Genuine question, are the Pies not in decline?

Old list, no first round pick. What makes them more lucrative than Melbourne?

Logical reasons:

N. Daicos.

The coach/game plan/general fitness of the side.

Otherwise sure there’s age concerns. And Im sure he’d look past them for the big crowds, big sponsorships etc.

But N Daicos alone puts Collingwood closer to a flag than we are.

Just now, DeeSpencer said:

Logical reasons:

N. Daicos.

The coach/game plan/general fitness of the side.

Otherwise sure there’s age concerns. And Im sure he’d look past them for the big crowds, big sponsorships etc.

But N Daicos alone puts Collingwood closer to a flag than we are.

One player? Really? Coz Judd didn’t help Carlton. Nor did Ablett help Gold Coast. 
One player does not a club make. He sure didn’t help them this year. Hell he couldn’t even help them make finals. 
 

The big crowds and sponsorships is the real reason and we all know it. Going from 500,000 followers to 1,000,000 followers means his paid posts double and triple in worth. 

Just now, Jack7 said:

This time last year,Goodwin said on numerous occasions "we won't trade Brodie Grundy under any circumstances"

This trade will get done as was Grundy's.

As long as we keep Clarry and Viney,i'm happy to lose Trac,he's a self centrered sook who runs his own selfish agenda in a team environment,a culture killer.

Let's get the best deal and move on,he's 29 and won't return to his best after this mental trauma.

 

 

Yep 👍. It’s now about being fairly compensated. We need 2 firsts and a starting 22 player.

I just don’t see why Richmond isn’t being discussed. They tick all the boxes. Does it work for them though? Not playing finals wasn’t on his Christmas wish list. 

Pick 1 would be hard to part with,  but they’ll pick up a few more in the coming years. 

12 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Genuine question, are the Pies not in decline?

Old list, no first round pick. What makes them more lucrative than Melbourne?

Unfortunately about 500k supporters 

2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Logical reasons:

N. Daicos.

The coach/game plan/general fitness of the side.

Otherwise sure there’s age concerns. And Im sure he’d look past them for the big crowds, big sponsorships etc.

But N Daicos alone puts Collingwood closer to a flag than we are.

I don't buy into the age being a problem for them either, they'll always be attractive to players, they'll hit the free agency market and continue to refresh on the run the same way Geelong have really successfully, 

they're a lot like an NBA side in a way, their entire list management strategy is about putting the best possible supporting cast around the Daicos boys.

23 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

G- brace yourself it’s gonna happen. There no walking this back. He has torched other players in the club. If they don’t trade him, I’d be less worried about the opposition players on the field. 

Trac is no doubt one of our all time greats. We will not be the same team without him but honestly the way he has torched us, we simply have to find the right trade.

If anyone thinks this year was a disaster, just imagine how bad things will get in-house next year if he is still at the club.

What a fricken mess.

Can we trade Trac for McKay then trade McKay for two top 10 picks ? 

3 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Yep 👍. It’s now about being fairly compensated. We need 2 firsts and a starting 22 player.

I just don’t see why Richmond isn’t being discussed. They tick all the boxes. Does it work for them though? Not playing finals wasn’t on his Christmas wish list. 

Pick 1 would be hard to part with,  but they’ll pick up a few more in the coming years. 

Agree, deal with Richmond.

- Big crowds

- Big picks

- Yze

 

Perfect place to go and let your career die.

26 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Being a Melbourne supporter is a full time job… for my therapist. 

My therapist is a Bombers supporter. She says half her clients just come and complain about their football club, and she has to tell them it’s much worse for her. 

1 minute ago, The heart beats true said:

My therapist is a Bombers supporter. She says half her clients just come and complain about their football club, and she has to tell them it’s much worse for her. 

Sounds like the therapist needs a therapist.

3 minutes ago, layzie said:

Agree, deal with Richmond.

- Big crowds

- Big picks

- Yze

 

Perfect place to go and let your career die.

Except Richmond are going full rebuild. I doubt a player of Trac's age would fit in with their strategy. Despite his attributes 

IF what is being reported by the "journalists" is true... then it's just so sad.  We waited for 57 years to break the drought and our Norm Smith medal winner wants out of the club when after a number of things unravelled a few years later.

It's bad enough that the likes of ANB and Harmes will have finished their careers elsewhere when we watch the 2021 replay... but would never have thought the Trac would be elsewhere.  I thought he was our next Captain.  I made a book about him for my nephews. It's heartbreaking.

I remember the pain of Woey and Farmer and they were bad enough... but this is another level.😭

1 hour ago, bing181 said:

Some disturbing revelations on this thread. If even half of it is true, with so many younger players at the club you would think that the FD would be looking to move Trac on in the same way they did golden boy Jack Watts.

To the credit of the senior players, the coaches and the auxiliary staff, the young players have seemingly been spared any adverse effects of this situation. I don’t know exactly how they’ve managed to do this so well (why look a gift horse in the mouth?) but it’s abundantly clear when they’re all together, and when you speak to the kids who, as I’ve said many times before, are only to happy to spill on any subject and with total honesty. Re-signings also say a lot. 

I don't want to have to mention this again but please don't pin the blame on a certain person here. I don't know how much plainer I can be about this.

1 minute ago, Demonland said:

I don't want to have to mention this again but please don't pin the blame on a certain person here. I don't know how much plainer I can be about this.

So… Trac isn’t mad about Jefferson not debuting? 

16 hours ago, Rednblueriseing said:

-His building his brand already 

-The club size didn't bother him when he signed for 7 years

-We have been the best preformed team over the past 4 years

Will wait to hear from trac before deciding but agree with your points and his reasons for wanting out dont pass the pub test. So much so it makes me wonder whether he has been offered a monster deal including post career opportunities $$$$. 

Edited August 26, 20241 yr by Demons1858

Sam McLure - all vibes and feelings. Only in football media would that rate as a story. McLure does not so much as claim to have spoken to any senior players about Trac or to have knowledge of any conversations about or with him.

Would be laughed out of any journalism school.

Just now, Jaded No More said:

So… Trac isn’t mad about Jefferson not debuting? 

Is that a new clothing brand that needs some exposure? I know a guy ... Too soon?