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Just now, RedLegs23 said:

Timestamp 3:37:20 if you have Kayo / Fox

Looking back at it now (minus a few reds), not a lot in it. Plus we don’t know the context of it all.

Nothing in it

 
59 minutes ago, RedLegs23 said:

Timestamp 3:37:20 if you have Kayo / Fox

Looking back at it now (minus a few reds), not a lot in it. Plus we don’t know the context of it all.

Just watched it, looked weird but who knows.

I’m certain you will all come up with some other hallucination, anything to lay the size 12s into Simon.

 

Finance wise it's end of this season that is the clincher.

Not hard to engage a wannabe coach on a slightly deferred salary plan and avoid the "luxury" tax.

Last thing we need next year is weekly speculation over the coach.

The good thing from a future gameplan outlook is that at least SG is taking the team along a pathway consistent with modern football.

Becoming obvious that success requires forwards who can gain separation be they small or tall. Not sure JVR or Jefferson fit that mould. Strangely enough Fitsch does but he needs to improve.

Not really expecting much from 2025 but I'd be happy with tenth just to upset the Bombers


It’s one game. Let’s see them back it up regularly before the spotlight is dimmed.

Why does it take 2 years for professional footballers to play that way??

20 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Finance wise it's end of this season that is the clincher.

Not hard to engage a wannabe coach on a slightly deferred salary plan and avoid the "luxury" tax.

Last thing we need next year is weekly speculation over the coach.

The good thing from a future gameplan outlook is that at least SG is taking the team along a pathway consistent with modern football.

Becoming obvious that success requires forwards who can gain separation be they small or tall. Not sure JVR or Jefferson fit that mould. Strangely enough Fitsch does but he needs to improve.

Not really expecting much from 2025 but I'd be happy with tenth just to upset the Bombers

I can see both Fritsch & JVR being able to fit in with a new offense at senior level

But they are both going to have to adapt to the new game plan and do all the team things required

With JVR, youth is on his side and Fritsch just needs to lift his game otherwise he'll stay in the reserves

Barring injury, both will have to re-prove themselves at 2nds level. Which isn't an easy thing to do as often the delivery forward a level down can be sloppy

They'll have to win their own ball, tackle hard, share the ball around and play a selfless role. That's what the MC will be looking for

5 hours ago, Macca said:

What happened is that the message finally got through and the players finally listened

So the players got the same message, not a different eek to week basis, go right ahead.

He finally dropped some name players, not fringe players, like we have been calling out for 20 games or so.

Selection integrity has been a big issue IMO

Maybe that msg hit home. I suggest a combination but it's taken a long time to get that intensity , pressure and composure with the ball. Also a fwd line where we weren't outnumbered 3 to 1 for every entry

 
29 minutes ago, Macca said:

I can see both Fritsch & JVR being able to fit in with a new offense at senior level

But they are both going to have to adapt to the new game plan and do all the team things required

With JVR, youth is on his side and Fritsch just needs to lift his game otherwise he'll stay in the reserves

Barring injury, both will have to re-prove themselves at 2nds level. Which isn't an easy thing to do as often the delivery forward a level down can be sloppy

They'll have to win their own ball, tackle hard, share the ball around and play a selfless role. That's what the MC will be looking for

Dropping them was great, they have to fight for spots and the guys who came up have to fight to keep them. No one getting favors and it brings a bit of competition.

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Finance wise it's end of this season that is the clincher.

Not hard to engage a wannabe coach on a slightly deferred salary plan and avoid the "luxury" tax.

Last thing we need next year is weekly speculation over the coach.

The good thing from a future gameplan outlook is that at least SG is taking the team along a pathway consistent with modern football.

Becoming obvious that success requires forwards who can gain separation be they small or tall. Not sure JVR or Jefferson fit that mould. Strangely enough Fitsch does but he needs to improve.

Not really expecting much from 2025 but I'd be happy with tenth just to upset the Bombers

Could JvR be a half forward in the mould of Carey? (A stretch at this point I know, given current form, but marks well, decent mobility, good kick)


Just now, jnrmac said:

He finally dropped some name players, not fringe players, like we have been calling out for 20 games or so.

Selection integrity has been a big issue IMO

Maybe that msg hit home. I suggest a combination but it's taken a long time to get that intensity , pressure and composure with the ball. Also a fwd line where we weren't outnumbered 3 to 1 for every entry

I've been playing Devil's advocate a bit on this thread, just to try to even the score.

But nothing I said I didn't mean ... more so speaking out loud about the player deficiencies (on various other threads, many others were saying the same sort of thing)

I've even backed that up to a point where I've openly admitted that I am not a huge fan of Goodwin

But I'm also not a fan of taxes!

But I am a fan of fairness. Especially when fairness can be applied

So we're not politicians where the other side of the argument is ignored

The argument has been so ridiculously one-sided against Goodwin on this thread

So there are numerous factors at play and that includes selection, our forward line set-up, our offense and other factors that are not directly player issues

And then there is the player buy-in to a new game plan ... that's the biggie from my point of view

Others can disagree

Edited by Macca

I really think Goodwin seems very confident he is onto something with the change but for the life of me I still can't actually tell what the new game plan is.

Good to see Spargo's field kicking coming into use for forward 50 entries.

23 minutes ago, Spargonicus said:

Could JvR be a half forward in the mould of Carey? (A stretch at this point I know, given current form, but marks well, decent mobility, good kick)

A high CHF (if there is such a thing)

Right now, he's not a stay at home key forward as he doesn't have the skill set

But further up the ground he can get on his bike and won't be double-teamed (which he struggles with, big time)

But as a high CHF he'd have to forget about scoring goals but instead, help set them up with the aid of his teammates

A pseudo Forward/Midfielder per se

Can he do it? Well, against Carlton in round 12 in 2023 he played the aforementioned role and picked up 16 possessions and kicked a goal. And looked good in the process

A big sized link player

I'm surprised that he has rarely, if ever, played that role since

9 minutes ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

I really think Goodwin seems very confident he is onto something with the change but for the life of me I still can't actually tell what the new game plan is.

Good to see Spargo's field kicking coming into use for forward 50 entries.

Really?


5 hours ago, Macca said:

I can see both Fritsch & JVR being able to fit in with a new offense at senior level

But they are both going to have to adapt to the new game plan and do all the team things required

With JVR, youth is on his side and Fritsch just needs to lift his game otherwise he'll stay in the reserves

Barring injury, both will have to re-prove themselves at 2nds level. Which isn't an easy thing to do as often the delivery forward a level down can be sloppy

They'll have to win their own ball, tackle hard, share the ball around and play a selfless role. That's what the MC will be looking for

JVR will be fine once he's able to play 2nd KPF and not have to backup ruck.

Just now, Dr. Gonzo said:

JVR will be fine once he's able to play 2nd KPF and not have to backup ruck.

The issue that can arise (these days) is how many talls do you want in the forward line?

Right now it's Petty and Fullarton (or Gawn) and that might be enough if we've got Melk, Kozzie, Trac, Spargo & Chandler buzzing about

It's such a running game these days that you can't afford to have one too many talls that might slow down your running game (especially around that area 40-70 metres out from goal)

I reckon it's Fullarton or JVR ... and Melk or Fritsch

2 minutes ago, Macca said:

The issue that can arise (these days) is how many talls do you want in the forward line?

Right now it's Petty and Fullarton (or Gawn) and that might be enough if we've got Melk, Kozzie, Trac, Spargo & Chandler buzzing about

It's such a running game these days that you can't afford to have one too many talls that might slow down your running game (especially around that area 40-70 metres out from goal)

I reckon it's Fullarton or JVR ... and Melk or Fritsch

I think JVR is clearly better than Fullarton, but make JVR earn his recall with some better VFL form.

You just need a second ruck to chop out for Max and provide a contest in the air, ideally on the ground and kick a goal a game.

JVR can do that.

Edited by Adam The God

1 minute ago, Adam The God said:

I think JVR is clearly better than Fullarton, but make JVR earn his recall with some better VFL form.

You just need a second ruck to chop out for Max and provide a contest in the air, ideally on the ground and kick a goal a game.

JVR can do that.

Fair enough but the MC might decide to give Fullarton a block of 4 games (and that will keep JVR out as Petty looks like being one of our KPF's)

And if Fullarton establishes himself the status quo will remain. We've been trying to find a forward line that functions and it did on Saturday with a more medium than tall forward line

Fritsch could replace Melk but Jake did enough to stay in for now. Barring injuries, I can't see both Melk & Fritsch in the same forward line. But you never know

9 hours ago, Dee Viney Intervention said:

2/ Forward half pressure. Tackles up giving our opponents no time on the ball forcing the turnovers down our end.

2b/ Forward half pressure. Stops the opposition launching attacks from the back half.


21 hours ago, BoBo said:

I re-watched it on Kayo.

They hugged. I don’t know if it’s a sweet embrace, but they hugged.

Maxy does have a pretty intense look in his face.

But then Maxy goes over to Langford and just looks at him with a weird smile.

I don’t think there’s anything in it at all.

But it’s weird, haha

10 hours ago, H_T said:

The message that they heard was the outside noise which was deafening. Alarm bells were ringing, the coach under the blowtorch, and they finally figured - “hey, we better pull our collective fingers out, and go!”

The coaches also heard and read the noise and realized their jobs were on the line, and coached 24/7 during the week to give the season a pulse.

You give the coach and players, way too much credit.

I’d like to give all the supporters and media credit for applying the blowtorch and putting everyone on notice.

Note: * Let’s see how they back up, with the spotlight off them after a win.

That is just embarrassing…I so hope other supporters don’t read our forum ..I mean really you are crediting the win to the supporters 🫨

21 minutes ago, Deestar9 said:

That is just embarrassing…I so hope other supporters don’t read our forum ..I mean really you are crediting the win to the supporters 🫨

UWOTM8?

Edited by BoBo

6 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Did we win yesterday - just checking?

I'm sorry that I was a doubter but after that performance, Goody stays.

To see us stab-pass to forwards was WOW but how come it's taken three years to adopt this deelivery?

tks QBD jus my thoughts

 

Much better performance but he team, I had to say from the efforts form he coaching team. They need to back it up while painting the style of play they want.
Wre we much better or Freo just having a really off day, given our last 2 encounters with them.

We have 2 winnable games coming up, thought the tigers are looking more of a danger game.

10 minutes ago, darkhorse72 said:

Much better performance but he team, I had to say from the efforts form he coaching team. They need to back it up while painting the style of play they want.
Wre we much better or Freo just having a really off day, given our last 2 encounters with them.

We have 2 winnable games coming up, thought the tigers are looking more of a danger game.

I didn't walk away from that thinking Fremantle were awful. I think they played OK enough, but that for once we were on the right side of the pressure and tactical side of things.


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