3 minutes ago, Abyssal said:

What do you think the 16,000 would equate to if it was a melbourne based club ?   

We got 28k against North a month ago - and it was bloody freezing that night too.

Edited July 28, 2024Jul 28 by The heart beats true

Food poisoning and spent most of the day throwing up. Little bloke was shattered, first game at the ‘G we’ve missed for a while.

1 minute ago, The heart beats true said:

We got 28k against North a month ago - and it was bloody freezing that night too.

OK, but wouldn’t North Melbourne have more supporters likely to attend than GWS?

I'd have been there but was in Lorne watching with a bottle of Pinot and a cheese board.

Don't tell me I'm not hard core.😃

3 hours ago, von said:

Unfortunately for our club our members and supporters have far more complete and full lives than some clubs, who have prayed on the poor for decades. Sucking out whatever dole or pension money they have and indoctrinating them into their cult getting them to show up when any sane person wouldn’t bother because football is the sun to which their life revolves around. Our supporters are too intelligent and too interesting to expose themselves to a cold, wet night where the umpiring was mediocre at best and the league is being run by a bunch of George Orwell post truth, there are no rules we are the rules sit down and do what you’re told types. The afl doesn’t respect its supporters so why should we respect them. There’s many things that are far more enjoyable than sitting at the mcg in the cold and wet.

Not sure if you’re serious (?)

I hope you’re not, but if you are:

Why is it that people can’t attend most or all matches and at the same time lead a ‘complete and full life’?

 I’m so over this notion that one can’t do both. It IS possible.

Your comment about clubs ‘praying [sic] on the poor…’ by ‘sucking out whatever dole or pension money they have…’ is profoundly supercilious and reeks of condescension.

 But the peak of your hauteur is this: ‘Our supporters are too intelligent and too interesting to expose themselves to a cold, wet night…’

Really, REALLY???

If you were being facetious, disregard the above but maybe consider making the tone of your posts clear thereby avoiding gravely insulting someone (friendly advice).

15 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

Food poisoning and spent most of the day throwing up. Little bloke was shattered, first game at the ‘G we’ve missed for a while.

I hope you’re feeling better today, CJ.

Bummer for the little bloke not being able to go, but love his (obvious) passion!

1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

To be fair though Richmond are dead last on the ladder, we were fighting for finals last night. How many would've turned up if we were 18th with two wins for the season? We had <10k against GWS at Docklands about 10 years back.

It is possible we just hate games against GWS, and also games at Docklands, and games in the final round of yet another miserable season after seven previous miserable seasons.

Because, after all, that was the only game that season where we dropped below 22k in Victoria.

One might even note that in 2014, one of the most miserable year for any given club this century and following on from the undisputed most depressing season since Fitrzoy folded, we managed 17k against the Giants late in the season. So the entire difference between Melbourne's 250,000 estimated supporters in the depths of the worst slump in the modern era, and Richmond with 500,000 supporters in their very first non-competitive season in 13 years... is two thousand.

In fact, if you looked back over the figures you'd find, comprehensively, that our crowd attendances are the least affected by performance of any club.

Each of us can have a whole lot of reasons to not show up for a particular game, but 'soft' has never, ever been one of them.

We've got to send that McGuire-led myth to its grave.

3 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

I think to be fair maybe if the club started winning more than more people would front up.

I feel sorry for all those that rocked up in the cold to see that half the players didn't.

It was another half hearted effort at times. We are so inconsistent. Not just week to week but it's now quarter to quarter.

Our fwd line was horrible last night.

 

IMHO this is by far and away the worst excuse/reason. Only making the effort to attend if you’re confident of a win or off the back of a string of wins. Now that’s a fair-weather fan, right there.

And you needn’t feel sorry for all who rocked up last night, I can’t speak for everyone else but I’m certainly not ruing having gone, same as last week in Perth and indeed the same with every loss. 

On the topic of soft; https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tg-collingwood-magpies?year=2016

A 9 win season with a percentage of 95, and the Pies got 17k against the Suns in round 22, 20k against the Eagles in round 14.

Out of close to 900,000 supporters.

There's your soft.

38 minutes ago, Abyssal said:

OK, but wouldn’t North Melbourne have more supporters likely to attend than GWS?

Yeah, I’m agreeing with you. Sorry, I was trying to help prove your point 👍

Nights game at the MCG from June until finals should be reserved for clashes between Victorian teams. Crowd numbers always dip at the MCG as we get deeper into winter. This impacts all teams. If that game was at 1pm on Saturday it would have been 25k+. We seem to be the only team drawing international teams to the MCG at night in July. GWS had like 10 supporters there.

I live 2 hours south of Perth. My private jet is in for a service and I absolutely refuse to fly with the commoners.

I'm sorry but I have standards.

Edited July 28, 2024Jul 28 by sam6172

Incase anyone has forgotten we have a Friday night game at Marvel for us not to turn up to in just five days. We need to move on people. 

Firstly, I’m a paid up member living in Sydney who is financially bereft and therefore can’t afford the fare to Melbourne and necessary accommodation.

Secondly, as a result of six months worth of chemotherapy, I have rather severe peripheral neuropathy that has somewhat affected my mobility.

It would have been nice to see more punters there, as I believe that’s the kind of thing that can get us over the line in those close games, but like me, I’m sure there are many who have their valid reasons for not attending; particularly given the predicted weather conditions, the lack of parking, and, I’m led to believe, the interrupted train services.

Edited July 28, 2024Jul 28 by hardtack

17 hours ago, Doug Reemer said:

16k at a Saturday Prime Time Home game.

I was there. If you weren’t whats your excuse? Want other clubs to respect us and stop saying we don’t turn up? Get off your [censored] and stick fat!

It was dark outside

I couldn't go because I have no desire to ever step foot in Melbourne again after the last few years. I might make it to the Gold Coast game.

Heard some pre-game statistics of us making the four, about 3%, making the eight, 30 %. A loss, zero chance of making the four.

Many aren't investing in the season after such a dominant few years. The exit out of finals in straight sets when we were strong doesn't  instill confidence in us fighting.

We have now returned to the many decades of us relying on other teams results just to get in the finals series.

Post traumatic shock of us being easy beats and of course the ski season having a shorter period (if there is snow you better go), is my guess for the poor showing.

Personal reason is, I am out of the country.

I don't mind the fair weatherers jumping, as I enjoy the open spaces in the good viewing areas, and as I am vocal, I won't get the ire of the opposition's supporters. Though GWS fans have never retaliated to my incessant and inane voice. 

Go Dees

Edited July 28, 2024Jul 28 by kev martin

The dog ate my ticket

18 hours ago, Doug Reemer said:

16k at a Saturday Prime Time Home game.

I was there. If you weren’t whats your excuse? Want other clubs to respect us and stop saying we don’t turn up? Get off your [censored] and stick fat!

I don't care

18 hours ago, Doug Reemer said:

16k at a Saturday Prime Time Home game.

I was there. If you weren’t whats your excuse? Want other clubs to respect us and stop saying we don’t turn up? Get off your [censored] and stick fat!

Come on Doug, if we are on Demonland, we are pretty demon mad and "sticking fat".  I think your comments are better directed to those who aren't on this site. 

1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I hope you’re feeling better today, CJ.

Bummer for the little bloke not being able to go, but love his (obvious) passion!

Thanks @WalkingCivilWar, feeling human again now, which is a win.

Will make sure I get him to Marvel next week!

30 minutes ago, Deebymistake said:

Come on Doug, if we are on Demonland, we are pretty demon mad and "sticking fat".  I think your comments are better directed to those who aren't on this site. 

Brilliant.

There are some on here that will criticise others for being too negative, being a “fair weather” supporter or even just expressing their opinion. Often it comes with an undertone suggesting “you’re not as loyal or as passionate as me”.

As you have implied, anybody who regularly expresses their thoughts/ opinions , even if they are critical, must surely be passionate Demon supporters.

Otherwise why would anybody waste their time?

29 minutes ago, Abyssal said:

As you have implied, anybody who regularly expresses their thoughts/ opinions , even if they are critical, must surely be passionate Demon supporters.

Otherwise why would anybody waste their time?

I think there are many who go "all in", till they move on to something else. It is all about entertaining our moments. The keyboard warriors love those moments, and the attention they get. Doesn't mean they stay doing the same thing. Many move on, experiences in this world are vast and varied, as we find other entertaining/passionate ways. It's a big wide world, don't get stuck in the safety of home and in the same job for the 50 years. Take a risk, as certainty and stability is overrated and unattainable. 

The fair weatherers come back when we win (not a good trait). Most just come and go as their life moves forward.

Because they move on, doesn't mean they are not, haven't been or won't be again, passionate about the MFC.

Edited July 28, 2024Jul 28 by kev martin

I was there, it was great untill we lost. 

@Abyssal If, by some chance, you are referring to WCW with your non-too cryptic remark, I’m sure that, if she possibly wanted too, she could well claim the crown as the most loyal supporter we have. But she’d never do that because I think you and some other DL’s totally misunderstand where,I believe, she is coming from. It’s obvious that she loves the club and the players so much that she cannot abide anyone disparaging their name. They are truely like sons (and daughters to her) and as such won’t hear a bad word said against them. Imagine if your son received some of the same vitriol that our players are often subjected to on this site. I think you would react to that - I know I would. Perhaps, for her own good, (and not yours) WCW should be banned from the match day thread once the game has begun, and the post match thread for at least a day after a completed match (unless of course if we win).

WCW might be deranged (my affectionate term for her), but do realise it’s her sons and daughters playing out there - so beware. If you have the right to spew vitriolic comments about one of our players, then she has the right to be critical of your comments. We are all different, just understand and accept that. Despite her “derangedness”, she can light up DL, and for me, and I’m sure many others, she makes this site a whole lot better than it would be without her.

Edited July 28, 2024Jul 28 by Neil Crompton