Oliver Trade Rumours

[Jaded No More 68,879]

Just now, Gorgoroth said:

Caps space is great when you are either Ron the verge of finals or a finals strong team, if you are [censored] is good for overpaying turnips who keep you near the bottom.

Yep. If you can’t attract anyone to your club because your club is a dumpster fire, then what’s cap space good for? 

[Return to Glory 8,428]

How about we just don't trade Clayton? Works for me. We really don't have to. 

 

[Gorgoroth 12,937]

Just now, Jaded No More said:

Yep. If you can’t attract anyone to your club because your club is a dumpster fire, then what’s cap space good for? 

Paying Jack Martin $700k a year 🤣

[DeeZee 7,364]

Everyone seems to be blaming Pert, and I’m not really a fan , but isn’t the cause of all this Clarry himself?

He was warned and asked to change his ways a year ago , but apparently has transgressed again.

Best on baller I’ve ever seen at Melbourne , and the whole thing is devastating, but what are we supposed to do??

[Dr. Gonzo 24,203]

50 minutes ago, demoncat said:

This is just damning stuff 

This club is run by nuffies

[2021 301]

1 hour ago, Fat Tony said:

 

Here’s a 25-point summary of the article on Clayton Oliver's potential trade from Melbourne to Geelong:

1. Melbourne Demons face a crisis over Clayton Oliver's looming trade to Geelong.
2. The club is weighing whether to keep a disenchanted Oliver or trade him for less value.
3. Oliver feels unsupported and let down by the Demons after being used as trade bait twice.
4. Melbourne risks further deterioration if Oliver stays without feeling fully invested.
5. Despite tensions, Oliver may attend the Demons' best and fairest night out of loyalty to teammates.
6. Oliver wants to move to Geelong, and his manager, Nick Gieschen, is working on the deal.
7. Geelong is calm and confident about the trade, sitting in a strong negotiating position.
8. The Cats are expected to offer a future first-round pick for Oliver, which is seen as a bargain.
9. Geelong's psychologist, David Williams, formerly of Melbourne, knows Oliver well.
10. Oliver could join Bailey Smith at Geelong, potentially revitalising both players’ careers.
11. This trade would give Geelong a powerful midfield boost alongside other recent acquisitions.
12. The situation highlights Melbourne's broader issues, including internal crises and player discontent.
13. Melbourne initially stated Oliver was staying, but his positive meeting with Geelong changed that.
14. The club finds it hard to reverse course after considering trading Oliver for two consecutive years.
15. Gary Pert, Melbourne CEO, is under fire for his role in the handling of Oliver’s situation.
16. Oliver feels abandoned after following the club's off-field expectations to improve personally.
17. Coach Simon Goodwin repeatedly praised Oliver's development but now faces the fallout of trade talks.
18. Despite personal challenges, Oliver remains a top player, winning four best-and-fairest awards.
19. The trade saga is another setback for Melbourne after the Joel Smith drugs suspension and other controversies.
20. Christian Petracca, another Melbourne star, has also had grievances with the club.
21. Dan Houston rejected a move to Melbourne after hearing about the club's cultural issues.
22. Oliver’s close relationship with captain Max Gawn adds further complexity to the trade.
23. If traded, Geelong would likely pay most of Oliver’s $1.4 million salary, with Melbourne potentially contributing.
24. Melbourne may use the trade to reset its culture and salary cap, similar to Collingwood’s past rebuild.
25. The trade could signal the end of Melbourne's premiership window, raising concerns among fans.

The situation highlights internal turmoil at Melbourne and Geelong's strategic opportunity to capitalise on the Demons' mismanagement of a star player.

F1, and Geelong pay most of the deal. I’d take  that, all things considered.

[RedFox 511]

Any word from this magical meeting that was supposed to happen to determine his future today?

[ANG13 2,062]

4 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

This club is run by nuffies

Sure is, how bloody dumb are they to think this would be kept quiet. 

[gngov1 44]

can someone please give a summary/update? i was under the impression that he/the club didn't want to trade him

[Dee-tonator 233]

Media pundits and some posters are talking as if Melbourne have no choice but to let Oliver join Geelong for whatever scraps we get in return.

Not so. It's time to get tough, tell other clubs to back off, and warn Oliver that the club will fine or suspend him for any further infractions.

Melbourne have given him a contract that ensures he can retire from  a game a wealthy man. 

The club has also gone out of its way to support him when he experienced off-field problems that have had an adverse effect on the team's performance levels.

Metaphorically  speaking, his response is apparently to kick Melbourne players, officials and fans in the teeth.

The notion of letting him leave for a likely mid-teens future draft pick, while still playing a hefty chunk of his salary, is frankly insane.

Having seen how the Petracca and Oliver sagas have played out, one thing is now certain. Very few clubs, if any, will be offering seven-year contracts, even to superstars.

[Mickey 4,647]

1 minute ago, RedFox said:

Any word from this magical meeting that was supposed to happen to determine his future today?

Given they seem to be urging him to go to the BnF to potentially farewell the fans, you'd have to think it's not a positive outcome

[picket fence 17,108]

20 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

Will not be renewing membership while Pert is CEO. 

Wont be renewing come whatever may. PLACE IS A SHAMBLES@!

[RedFox 511]

1 minute ago, Mickey said:

Given they seem to be urging him to go to the BnF to potentially farewell the fans, you'd have to think it's not a positive outcome

That seems way too dumb to be true...oh wait

Edited October 3 by RedFox

[Mickey 4,647]

42 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Can anyone summarise please? Is it the club urging him to attend?

[picket fence 17,108]

12 minutes ago, Return to Glory said:

How about we just don't trade Clayton? Works for me. We really don't have to. 

 

Nup too much water under a broken bridge!

[John Demonic 5,763]

I just love how in the same breath, they're talking about Bailey Smith not getting done for pick 15 and the Dogs wanting a little more.

What the absolute [censored] is this Clarry trade going to be worth and how will it get done? 

He stays and everyone can GAGF

Edited October 3 by John Demonic

[bing181 9,200]

27 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

The 'List Management Committee' wtf is that? Who want's to bet it's run by Pert and includes me, myself and I?

That would be the List Management committee that every club has. Ours includes Lamb, Taylor, Goodwin and presumably Richardson.

[layzie 33,780]

Is it worth complaining about the media? That could help. 

[KozzyCan 764]

1 minute ago, bing181 said:

That would be the List Management committee that every club has. Ours includes Lamb, Taylor, Goodwin and presumably Richardson.

So just the footy department heads? And the reports that Goodwin doesn't approve of this move aren't true then?

[Demonland 71,840]

 

[Return to Glory 8,428]

5 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Nup too much water under a broken bridge!

Giving the CEO the flick would get that bridge built pretty quickly imo

[Oxdee 342]

49 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Seems a fait accompli

[Fat Tony 5,221]

20 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

I’m not down on the details of how player payments work, but why is cap space useful when we have no one on comparable money to trade in..?

Is the idea that we could then renegotiate other contacts so they’re front-ended and use the money another year??

 

Clubs can front load contracts, which can be used in subsequent years.

The draft is inefficient due to drafting U18s and clubs can can pick up high quality AFL players without premium picks.

The draft is inefficient due to the academy systems and father son.

With free agency and the power of the key player agents, player movement is easy.

 

[reynolds46 1,235]

Just now, Oxdee said:

Seems a fait accompli

The BnF sounds like it will be a joyous occasion 

[John Demonic 5,763]

20 minutes ago, Dee-tonator said:

Media pundits and some posters are talking as if Melbourne have no choice but to let Oliver join Geelong for whatever scraps we get in return.

Not so. It's time to get tough, tell other clubs to back off, and warn Oliver that the club will fine or suspend him for any further infractions.

Melbourne have given him a contract that ensures he can retire from  a game a wealthy man. 

The club has also gone out of its way to support him when he experienced off-field problems that have had an adverse effect on the team's performance levels.

Metaphorically  speaking, his response is apparently to kick Melbourne players, officials and fans in the teeth.

The notion of letting him leave for a likely mid-teens future draft pick, while still playing a hefty chunk of his salary, is frankly insane.

 

If things are actually beyond repair behind closed doors, I still think the calls to Geelong are an absolute last resort when all other options from every club are off the table.

Whatever happened to Adelaide? If he's gone, why are we not pushing him to meet with them again given he was open to a move there. They have the picks. That he's apparently wanting to go to Geelong, and their sycophant media brigade are now driving it for peanuts is an absolute kick in the guts from this club and I'd rather he sit on the sidelines and we work to recover it, than get a mid teens pick from them.

Edited October 3 by John Demonic